Not super active because plural communities intimidate me (the host, Jay) but trying to be more open so I don’t suppress things Again. No clue how my system formed, but I’m definitely endo supportive.
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Aragorn Elessar, King of the Reunited Kingdom - The Lord of the Rings
What the hell is going on here??
So, I know there was a rough morning. Jackys been in and out of regression all day. So I'm trying to take care of him. But hes extra sensitive this time?? He's always really sensitive when he's little but it's worse today. He hardly even wanted to color!
And the body, this stupid thing, it feels like its been in panic this whole time. I can't get it to right itself. I've showered, eaten, gone for a walk. But I can't get the breathing to even out or the heart to slow down or to stop jumping at every little sound.
I keep trying to look at the notes about the system or ask around but I keep getting dizzy when I try or it feels like I'm bring spun to face the other way. IM JUST TRYING TO HELP??? And I asked HL about it and he just told me to "stop scrambling" myself like that gets me anywhere. NO!!! No it does not!
Fucks sake. Does anyone know what's happening or what I'm supposed to do here?? My head hurts.
-🐙
For years now we've considered ourselves a system, and this is a long post rambling about who we are, and why we are.
We're multiple, plural, a system, a collective, so many different terms we enjoy using interchangeably because they all feel they fit. We are multiple entities as much as we are parts of what is one whole in this world; internally we are many, externally we are one. We live one life, but each of us are pieces to living it, so we are plural. Our system formed from trauma, we were neglected and abused as a child, we've been around horrible people since we were little, our life has been unstable for a long time. There is no arguing that trauma is not part of why we're a system, or that it wasn't the catalyst for the dissociation that caused us to become parts; so we are a system with roots of a dissociative disorder. But we don't only exist because of it. We use the label adaptive, because that is the initial cause of us, to adapt to our life, our adversities, our trauma, our disorders... but we also use created as a label; we're mixed origin. Our system especially nowadays tends to linger in fragments, sometimes those fragments take upon their own identity. Sometimes we purposefully influence them, we create the alters we want, we need, out of their existence. We create within ourselves, we form naturally, and we split from our pain... so we are a mixed origin, adaptive and created, OSDD system. And that fits quite well for all we need it to. If it were up to some of us, we wouldn't bother with these labels at all, but for others within who we are these labels are a comfort; an easy telling that "this is me, this is who I am and I want to say it and be heard." We don't like -genic labels, they're narrow, and make you decide between having to identify with trauma itself or disregarding what part it could play even if it didn't form your system. For awhile we used them because it was all we really had, it was the easier option because people knew; but in the same breath it came with peoples assumptions that we hated having upon ourselves. We mentioned prior our initial origins, having a dissociative disorder. We don't particularly view our plurality or systemhood itself as disordered, we've plenty that affects us being multiple in negative ways though though... CPTSD, OCD, BPD, NPD, Various physical disabilities, Etc, They all make things harder. They are what disorders us, causes discord and pain. Our system makes it easier, better for us, at least nowadays. In the past, years ago, I think we would've said our systemhood is inherently disordered; it caused our host then stress, unbearably. it was a painful experience, scary, anxiety inducing for more reasons than one. But we've grown, we've changed, we've overcome a lot and our views have changed. I think it's fair to hope we'd have changed from when we were 13 years old... We've spoken before that the spaces we'd used to be in helped us all but none, when we were staunchly anti-endo because it was the "right" option (and the option that, at the time, made us feel safe while we were in the company of those who felt it right to harass people outside of those views.) We were scared of ourselves, scared of the people around us. Scared of being wrong. Existing wrong.
When the information we were given was that we were broken, we were so horribly abused (which, frankly, remains true in our case because we were), that we were broken by it. And if we hadn't been horribly broken, it was wrong to claim we were this way... which of course is hardly the truth. When we stepped out of that bubble, realizing how tired and awful it made us felt... how much worse and harder it made things for us. We began to get more information, we had people tell us we were wrong (and we hated it at first honestly), we had people who directed us to others who had resources. And we learned. And we learned more about ourselves because of it. We learned more about dissociative disorders, about plural history, about the experiences of others outside of it, about how other aspects of ourselves intertwine with the rest of it... We learned a lot of things we disregarded or didn't think was necessary to know prior. Because we thought we knew everything we needed to already, that it was a trauma disorder, and the only way to be this way was to be traumatized. And we were very quickly challenged in our at-the-time narrow views. Sometimes those old spaces still linger even as we've come to accept more views, more various systems and the way they exist too. Existing in spaces where others are so open, sometimes it still feels odd, and we feel isolated, the strange and weird one of the bunch because of how we simply are in our life. We don't understand or grasp the experiences of those with elaborate innerworlds, or who retain memories within them. We never had that. We don't understand the people who will openly text as various alters talking to one another, responding to each other. We've always been so internal with ourselves, that seeing communication in those ways felt... strange? Even down to people who make a big deal of new alters, who fuss and whine about even considering the idea of it. We don't get it.
It's hard sometimes not to think to ourselves "wow, that's cringe/stupid" or that "they should just roleplay" sometimes when presented with these sorts of situations. But we know that the way we think sometimes is cruel or overly mean and judgemental; and while we know it comes from a place of our own insecurity, and retaining some of the things from spaces we'd used to be in as a kid... it's still awful, and our place to challenge it when we think this way. These people don't hurt me. Their experiences do not change mine. I am still me. They are them. And that's okay. And that is what I will always remind myself of.
The various pieces of our story, the ones that made us, are exactly why we've landed on the labels we use now. They are what have made us syscourse neutral, an endo safe system, someone who wants to seek our more information and enjoys learning about this side of life.
I wanted a bio, so I'm making a bio.
Name: Travis Role: Council member, (mostly) ex-persecutor Pronouns: he/him
I'm the resident black magic enthusiast, and I've got a "mad scientist vibe going on." My job as a persecutor was to keep us from relying on anyone by manipulating the host away from people. These days I mostly keep an eye on the other "darker" system members.
I like silk shirts, dramatic aesthetics, spooky music, and gold jewelry.
wOAH WEVE HAD A TUMBLR FOR SIX MONTHS??? Yea this is definitely the longest we’ve gone without me repressing things whoops
Trying to figure out if a couple guys I know of are headmates or if they’re just OCs. Like yeah, they come with their own Vibes, but is that really enough to go off of? I think one fronted earlier but only for like ten seconds so who knows really?? And the other is just a Feeling I’ve had off and on since I was a kid and I put the feeling into an OC and recently I found a journal entry where I(?) was calling myself by his name… but I don’t know… halp….
I wanted to maladaptive daydream, but instead our littlest is co-con so I guess I’m just gonna hang out as it cracks up listening to Raffi songs. It’s alright. Apples and Bananas does go pretty hard.
Striving for minimalism, and therefore striving to have the least amount of clothes possible, amongst other things, is incredibly difficult when you need to accommodate all of your headmates preferring skirts, and those who prefer jeans, and those who have sensory problems with formal shirts, and those who love formal shirts, and those who need tight clothing, and those who need loose clothing, and those who accessorise every outfit with everything they've got, and those who-
hi! i figured id write about my experience with splitting as someone who struggles with blurred dissociative barriers and difficulty with headspace connections
cw/tw for splitting talk and such below the break
so for me, when i split, it starts with extreme dissociation.. like really bad.. and when i dissociate my eyes essentially unfocus and its nearly impossible for me to refocus them.. then comes a nightmarish headache, and i just need to sit down and try to stay calm
now this might just sound like serious dissociation or like a panic attack or whatever else others may connect this to, but the difference for me is that i start to hear the new alter's name echoing through my head, in some weird way.. idk how to explain it other than by saying that.. it slowly gets more severe, and sometimes those echoes will have other information included, but the dissociation will reach a peak as well as the echoes before it all just fades away.. it leaves me exhausted and drained, and its very unpleasant.. from there, the alter will have some kind of rudimentary form, and over a short time theyll fully develop.
keep in mind this is just my experience but i wanted to share it in case anyone else feels that way.. :p
so thats all! - 🌹
In Sys Qoute #1
"I'm going to beat your fucking ass"
"I hope you yaba daba do motherfucker"
I mean, who hasn't had a devil-adjacent headmate at some point?
Keeping the Simply Plural app installed is such a hassle for us because the host keeps jumping rapidly between believing we're a system to not believing we're a system. Like?? WE'RE RIGHT HERE!!
You’re welcome, glad I could be of help!
Need to start working on getting better communication with the other's cause I'm getting anxious about not being able to have a full conversation with them and having a hard time contacting them.
I don't quite know where to start so any advice would be nice :)
For me communication got easier when I stopped being so paranoid about whether I was faking or not, but if that doesn’t apply to you, disregard.
If possible, find a headmate you like who gives you permission to use positive triggers to pull to front sometimes (though discuss boundaries around when and how that’s done), and focus on communication with that one specific headmate. That’s how I became friends with Shekel - he has an incredibly vivid presence, so I can really tell when he’s nearby/co-con/fronting, and I’ve learned how to positive trigger him forward. I don’t do it often, because he’s busy on the inside and gets tired when too close to front for too long, but he told me that he’d rather me pull him to front than put the body through a panic attack, so I tend to reach out to him first. Once you learn good communication with one you can both work on communication with others.
I don’t know if you can hear your headmates on the inside, but if you can, try talking with them about things they like when they’re around - they’ll be more likely to have a genuine conversation that way in my experience, and it’ll open up communication.
I also recommend physical touch on the inside if that’s something you’re capable of and comfortable with. 90% of my interactions with the others are them coming up behind me when I’m fronting and ruffling my hair, rubbing my shoulders, slapping my ass, hugging me, etc because they know it helps comfort me and keep me calm. We find that the more we can touch in headspace the more we can communicate by… handing each other thoughts? It’s hard to explain, and it is different from communicating on the inside with words, but when Shekel and I were building the Council and debating who should be on it we were so co-conscious and overlapped on the inside it almost felt like we were having two trains of thought but we kept using our brains and each other’s to think with. I couldn’t tell if he was having a thought with my brain or if I was having a thought with his brain, but we were having ideas and discussing them without needing to say a word.
Lastly, written conversations are super helpful, but I’ve found some tricks. When co-con I like to still use discord or simply plural to write out a chat partially for posterity and partially because it’s easier to think when you’re not trying to think into someone’s brain. It really helps communication, but it can be hard to have a genuine conversation, especially if you don’t know each other well. It’s helpful to leave messages around for other headmates (ie a sticky note that says “you are safe” for any headmates that find themselves in front and are confused, or writing your shopping/to-do list on the body’s arm so everyone knows what’s supposed to be happening if they end up in front) but it’s hard to communicate through notes alone from our experience. That’s why I like to try and get them talking about themselves and their interests, it’s just a deeper bonding activity. We’re trying to pair our known headmates up into ones that specifically practice communicating with each other to better improve group cohesion, and I saw that Tamm was asking Lysander about his exomemories. They’ve never spoken directly that I know of, but they’re going to leave each other messages on simply plural until they become friends enough to communicate on the inside/more directly, and then if I want to talk to Lysander I can reach out to Tamm, who I tend to see more often.
Sorry this is so long, but good luck with communication and I hope this helps some! As always feel free to ignore any advice that doesn’t apply to or help you.
-Jay
Need to start working on getting better communication with the other's cause I'm getting anxious about not being able to have a full conversation with them and having a hard time contacting them.
I don't quite know where to start so any advice would be nice :)
Do any other hosts (especially ones that tend to be front stuck) feel like they don’t have an identity at all? Like, I know that I’m not Shekel, and I know that I’m not Monty, or Tamm, or *insert the list of headmates I know about* but I don’t know what I am.
I want to make a flowchart for when I’m blurry but I’m usually fronting on some level and I don’t know how to make an “Am I Jay?” section when I feel like the leftover scraps of everyone else. I don’t know what I look like on the inside because I figure I look like the body even though I have no connection to it (seriously, the not recognizing ourself in the mirror is bad).
I’m just the default setting. I know I’m a guy because of crippling dysphoria, and I like various things, but I have no way to figure out my identity when so much of it is other people.
Journaling Together(sending letters to another, conversation, love notes, feelings)
Listening to Music together
Watching movies or shows together and talking to another about it
Gaming together, maybe spectate another or make decisions together
Going on walks or exploring nature together
Cooking and baking together
Working out together, maybe one will possess the body while the other helps encourage
Drawing or writing together
Getting a physical representation of your relationship, like a ring
Meditating together
Divination together(tarot)
Letting your partner make decisions for or with you
Planning and doing a Morning or Night ritual together, like helping another get dressed or brush their teeth
Self care time together
Eating together
Clean and organize together
Shopping together
driving together
reading together
show/save images and memes your partner might enjoy
"Texting" another throughout the day (using simplyplural chat or pluralkit discord)
Mental check-ins, if you have fronted and haven't spoken to your partner, just call them up and ask them how they're doing
Encourage another throughout the day
Help another with homework or work(If one is tired, maybe take over for them, or help guide them through studying or not getting distracted)
well i guess that's fine
I somehow managed to sit here and play Monster Hunter for almost 6 hours straight. While yeah that's kind of a big chunk of time and can't happen all the time, this is also good for us because we've been really trying to work on our attention span so we don't need to either do 3 things at once or change tasks every 20 minutes. We've previously been known to barely be able to sit through a single episode of any TV show because we just bounce all over the place mentally and our ADHD runs rampant. Fine for some people, but we'd like to work on it so we can... Enjoy media at all.
But we did so much today and I didn't really do anything else. No fidgeting, no side-project, just fighting things in a videogame. So I count this as a win. Autism beats ADHD in a fight to the death. And I beat monsters with my god damn dual blades. It all works out.
Being plural sometimes is being super deep in a self destructive maladaptive daydreaming session and having another alter *literally* shake you back to being aware, being able to give them hugs and have someone to cry on while you try and ground yourself. An extreme act of love and care.
Other times the little bitch that runs this blog steals AN ENTIRE HALF GALLON OF MY CHOCOLATE MILK AND THE LAST OF MY HOMEMADE BBQ SAUCE
May you're a bitch and imma eat whenever snacks our boyfriend buys you next /hj
-Eef
I feel like its ok to only share the fun side of ur system if thats what u all comfortable with.
Seriously, not everyone wants to show and share their negative side system stuff with others. Us as an example, we don’t even share our name or anything in here bc its dangerous for us. Not to mention sharing the things we been personal gone through, which may use to harm us later.
But its also very brave and nice that some people willing to share they own personal experience to others! Thats very cool!!! <3
🌕 - If Your System Has A Name, What Is The Story Behind It?
🌔 - Do you Have Any Nonhuman Or Human Adjacent Headmates? Any That Are A Unique/Non-Typical Species?
🌓 - What Is The Most Unique Name A Headmate In Your System Has?
🌑- Does Anyone In Your System Have Food Preferences That Differ Greatly From Others In Your System?
⭐️ - Who Is The Most Social?
💫 - Does Anyone Celebrate A Birthday Different From The Body's Birthday?
✨️ - Who Is The "Problem Child" Of Your System? (Not Necessarily In A Negative Way)
🔭 - Anyone With A "Non-Typical" Role?
🚀 - Are There Any Headmates With Wildly Differing Interests From The Rest Of The System?
☄️ - Do You Have Any Alt Headmates? (Emo,Goth,Etc)
🌍 - Do You Have Any Introjects From Obscure Sources? (Not Including Oc-tives)
🪐 - What Is The Age Of Your Oldest Headmate? The Youngest?
🌙 - What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing Your System Has Argued Over?
👽 - The Strangest,Most Off Putting,Or Silliest Thing A Headmate Has Said?
🌌 - Is There A Headmate Who Likes To Play Pranks On The Rest Of The System?
🌠 - Who Is The Most Noticeable When Fronting?
🛰 - What Is The Strangest Way You've Discovered A Headmate?
🌝 - What Is The Strangest Purchase Someone In The System Has Made?
collection of plural resources:
beginning:
What is plurality? (link)
Am I plural? (link)
New/Questioning system (link)
Plurality hub (link)
Plurality resource (link)
guides:
Multiplicity links (link)
Healthymultiplicity (link)
DIS-SOS (link)
First person plural (link)
The plurality playbook (link)
Multiplicity database systemology (link)
New alter (link)
Unblur (link)
specifics:
System sources (link)
Resources for faceclaims (link)
System communication and journaling (link)
System internet safety (link)
Powertotheplurals (link)
System Comfort's plural resources (link)
Plurality resources (link)
Discussing dissociation (link)
Exploration into endogenic & non-disordered plurality (link)
Endogenic systems (link)
Endogenic systems new carrd (link)
Endogenic hub (link)
Tulpas and mental health (link)
The tulpamancy guide I wish I had (link)
Tulpanomicon (link)
Tulpia.io (link)
The chimera's library (link)
information:
The plural dictionary (link)
Plural terms (link)
Quick'n'dirty plural history (link)
Pluralpedia (link)
Multiplicity and plurality wiki (link)
Kinhost.org (link)
Tulpa.info (link)
Soulbonding info (link)
Soulbonding links (link)
services:
Simply Plural - alter logging & chatting (app & site)
Anytype - journaling (app)
Twinote - chatting (app)
Ifake - chatting (app)
Antar - chatting (app)
Fortelling - system logging (app)
Notion - system logging, journaling, chatting (app & site)
Pronouns.cc - system logging (site)
Lighthouse - system logging & journaling (site)
Pluralkit - social bot (discord)
Tupperbox - social bot (discord)
Firefox Multiacc Extension - multiaccounts (extension)
Feedbro - multiaccounts (extension)
feel free to reblog with more resources, will update as new resources are found! last updated: Dec. 16, 2024
Body is ftm.
Most headmates are cis men.
Watch as they get frustrated over living the trans experience simply because they don't identify as trans but are trans anyway.
It's an interesting experience, to me anyway.
Note: We're all queer in one way or another. Just not all of us can appreciate the trans experience the body has to go through so we can be ourselves.
"I was there when the universe was created and you're trying to tell me that I'm making a grilled cheese sandwich wrong?" -🌌🐕🦺
"I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, I'm saying it's burning." -🦕
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do y'all have different voices or speaking patterns externally?
yes, voices
yes, speaking patterns
yes, both
no
unknown/nuanced
(maybe a week long poll cause we're curious about this and want as many results as possible but if not a day is fine :3)
reworded the question slightly so it fits better :3
and yeah, ofc u can have a week one heh (I'm actually happy that someone asked for it heh-)
the future should be plural
children should not be abused to the point of their brains physically altering itself and shattering itself to protect itself. Children should not have trauma. Children should not have to go through this. When we say the future is plural it means having a society that supports plural folks and works to make sure people have spaces to heal from trauma. No one is obsessed with traumatizing children to make new systems. Anyone who thinks that doesn't think very highly of children. Just no.
Reminder that if you have ios you can use focus to change the status of who’s fronting as well as link a wallpaper to that focus
(Will provide tutorial if needed)
-Anthony