DUDE YES PREENING!!

This body may be human but we aren't.

- Shay 🐾

PSEUDOHUMAN

a term used to describe a being who may appear as human, but is not.

a symbol i made for this term.

note that i did not come up with the term, just the symbol.

using the greek letter for H (heta) and P (pi) i combined the two. the symbol is called heta-pi and is written as ͰΠ

i came across this term, and i find it describes me as a physical nonhuman perfectly, as how my human appearance is a deceiving illusion to myself and others.

Love this post!!!

We ourselves don't have DID or OSDD [at least not diagnosed, and we won't argue with anyone on if we do or do not actually have either of these]. We think that those disorders don't fit us because of reasons related to our own experiences, and arguing with us isn't gonna change shit.

However, we do think our plurality relates at least a little to our trauma, so in that way, we are both under the "endogenic" label and "traumagenic". The origin we describe ourselves as is specifically "quoitraumagenic" which is a mix of "quoigenic" and "traumagenic". We have a post with the definition from a website about plurality.

We don't typically want to talk about our origin(s?) for our plurality. We are plural, and that's all that actually matters.

- Shay 🐾

hey, i saw a post on here saying you guys support non "traumagenic" systems and I was wanting to know if thats true.

You guys are so amazing and have helped me with my identity a lot, but this information is really important to me as a trauma survivor with severe PTSD. If you are pro endos but are open to listening to trauma survivors and phycology sources, I absolutely will provide them. I want you guys to be a safe space for people with PTSD and dissociative disorders so bad, as people who has OSDDDID tend to have more "contradictory" labels in the first place, due to the complex relationship all the different alters identities make combined.

I'm hoping so much that you'll be open to listening if this is true.

hello! i'm good, i don't need any!

if you only have severe PTSD and not a dissociative disorder and do not identify as plural, you should NOT be commenting on plurality at all. like i hate to break it to you, but if you do not deal with plurality, you do not know what the experience is like. reading papers about it will not give you insight into how people actually live.

i'm an inclusive Dissociative Identity Disorder system who is 100% pro endo, and any other type of system. i support ALL plurals, i don't cherry pick. you're correct, this blog is a safe space, especially for people with "contradictory" identities or ones that "don't make sense." why wouldn't i be here for endogenic and non traumagenic systems?

that would go against everything i stand for.

i am a trauma survivor as well. i *have* DID, i don't really need any resources on the matter- before I was diagnosed i spent years researching, and i still do keep up with research. i am aware that DID and OSDD are caused by trauma! generally it's severe, repeated trauma and/or neglect. i have no memories of my life before the age of 10. i too have severe PTSD, i have a diagnosis for C-PTSD in specific. i live with this every day of my life. i still have a lot of trauma and triggers. i black out and lose time and regularly forget who i am or where i'm at.

something to keep in mind is research on DID has literally 0 bearing on other types of plurality. just because there is a lot of research into DID, OSDD, etc. does not mean that other plural experiences do not exist. when ONLY siting medical sources and saying that because there's no other "proof" or "evidence" that other types of plurality "can't" exist, it's an appeal to authority. there is no research data to point toward because studies on DID and OSDD and other dissociative disorders have really only gained traction within the last 10 - 20 years maximum. this is an extremely recent phenomenon! just because there are no (paid, keep in mind that studies have to find funding, and investors are picky) medical papers or studies to point toward doesn't mean something isn't happening.

someone identifying as plural without trauma is not an affront to plurals who do have trauma. someone identifying as a system who doesn't have or know of any childhood trauma is not spitting in your face. i've seen this take around and it's just not it. don't take someone else's mental health as an attack on yours. it's not hurting you at all for people to identify as plural if they don't have trauma. it's not spitting in *my* face, so it's not spitting in yours, either. it's okay to let non traumagenic systems exist. it's not exacerbating your trauma or re-traumatizing you or subjecting you to new trauma.

they're not saying that your trauma is invalid just because they don't have any. i don't like people who get on a high horse because they have a dissociative disorder and act like they get to police how other people's brains work. you only know how your brain works. you do not know how any other type of system works.

endogenic systems are not identifying as endogenic to spite you or dissociative systems. they're not doing it to hurt you. they're doing it because they identify as multiple people. that is not being done with the intention to hurt anyone. this is about THEM, not you. nobody is the protagonist of the plural community. no one.

as a plural, myself, i get to choose who i support. and i choose to support people who aren't hurting anyone or doing anything wrong. i really don't care how offensive some people find non traumagenic systems, but they're not hurting you, me, or anyone else. live and let live. you don't know how someone else's brain works. you will never be able to know how someone else's brain works. accepting that will make your life easier.

being angry at other people for not having trauma will not make yours go away or undo what was done to you. you should never take out your frustrations on people who haven't hurt you. endos haven't hurt you, you just don't agree with them. these are 2 separate things. also you really don't have the right to comment on the nature of how complex non traumagenic plurality is or is not- endogenic systems can have just as many nuanced and complex identities regardless of whether or not they're dissociating. they're still multiple people whether or not you see them that way. they also have complex identities, why wouldn't they? being different people leads to a lot of complexity. you should still see them as multiple people even if you don't think it's legit. that's basic respect for another person who, again, literally hasn't hurt you.

also endogenic and non dissociative systems are still people, and we should still care about them. they're still people even if you don't agree with them, and again: they have not hurt you by virtue of existing.

hope that helps and makes sense. i am not open to changing my mind on this, but i appreciate you giving me a good reason to explain my stance on the matter. i don't have the right to police other people and tell them how their own brains work. you don't have that right, either. i'm not here to police anyone. that goes against everything i stand for. i don't gatekeep.

i'm not a cop.

SAYING "HUMAN" TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN

There are plenty of beings that are not human or not fully human or not human "in the right way" (all of these fit under alterhuman) and they are not less than or bad for not being human. We are not human.

STOP USING HUMAN AND SIMILAR WORDS LIKE THIS PLEASE

(We are probably gonna end up deleting this reblog and just blocking this blog/account cause we don't want to deal with those who use human like this)

- Shay 🐾

Lots of thoughts recently. Everything feels plastic.

I could go on and on about why all that AI "art" is bad. I could mention theft, lack of creativity, it's impact on the work field and environment, but countless people have already said all that. I wanted to touch on something that to me is the most utterly wrong about all of it.

Art is more than just something pretty to look at or listen to. It's therapeutic. It's a form of communication. A tool for human connection. It's a pure, human need.

Support real artists ☀️

Tw: sexual assault mentioned, and trauma/ptsd. All from past lifes and not explicit.

Talking about this once again, mainly cause I want to mention that it's from both of my "kin" lifes [Zuki and Cyan]. And it was likely more than once in both.

It sucks having to deal with the trauma even when in this body/life I/we have never experienced anything like that.

Anyway, just wanted to slightly vent again.

- Shay 🐾

Tw: sexual assault mentioned, trauma/ptsd, I think that's it? All of this is pretty much just past life, and it's not explicit, just mentioned by name.

Anyone else who experienced trauma in a past life that they haven't experienced in your current life, how do you deal with it?

I haven't ever been SAed in this life but I am pretty sure that I was at least once in a past life [maybe multiple past lifes, Zuki is the one that I am meaning rn]. And I have no real idea of how to go about dealing with this.

I feel shitty cause, like I've said, I have never been through that in this life, but it still affects me about as much as if I had. And I don't really know how to talk about this shit with people cause idk how they would react, even those that support and love me as I am [alterhuman/nonhuman stuff included] but having trauma from my past life that I haven't experienced here is kinda different.

Idk, I just want to know if anyone has any advice or anything for this situation.

Sorry for this type of post, I try not to bring too much stuff like this into my account, but I feel like I need to. I'll try and keep my posts more light-hearted or, at least of course, give trigger warnings or content warnings when they're not light-hearted.

- Zuki Shay Lupo (They/hx/it)

Ok, first of all, our post was not an attack or hate to you. We even got where you were coming from.

Second of all, fuck that whole end paragraph.

We don't like using those terms just the same that we don't like using system to refer to us. They just don't feel right for us. We don't look down on or anything people who use any term that we don't.

We know that therians and otherkins aren't inherently human (although they can be, let's not forget the humans under the alterhuman umbrella). We would NEVER call someone human unless they say they are human.

Also, for the bisexual thing, there are multiple different multigender sexualities for a reason (pansexual, bisexual, polysexual, omnisexual, etc). Cause some don't prefer one of the other terms. There is nothing wrong with a preference for a term.

We like nonhuman and alterhuman better cause they are the ones that we would prefer to be called. There is nothing wrong with our preference, and if you think there is, then just block us.

- Shay 🐾

putting this on main actually;

it annoys me to death when folks say stuff like “i’m not a therian, im a [xyz animal]”

because hey that’s what a therian is!

to say you don’t identify as a therian because you just ARE that animal is to say that therians AREN’T really the animal they claim to be. which is so wrong. to say you don’t like the term therian because it’s ‘too human’ is so insensitive.

therians are not necessarily human! someone calling themself a therian in no way makes them human! equating therians with humans is weird!

stop treating us like we are human, stop trying to separate ‘really being an animal’ from being a therian. they are the same thing. you’re not superior or different to us because you “really are that animal”. we all are.

Yessss!!

Spoiler for Flash under the "keep reading" thing.

However, Frost and Caitlin do end up in different bodies, sadly.

It's honestly kinda disappointing in a way that they do this (at least it is to us) but yeah.

- Shay 🐾 | & maybe a DC Arrowverse related fictive; Curren 🏹⚡️🐾

Killer Frost from The Flash is Canonically Plural

For the first two seasons of The Flash, all we see is Caitlin Snow. A Killer Frost appears in season 2 but she's a different Caitlin from an alternate reality. In season 3, it's revealed that the main Caitlin has powers and becomes Killer Frost herself.

It's a little unclear how Killer Frost works in season 3. Is she another personality? Or is the transformation just changing Caitlin's mood to make her angrier and "colder."

Season 4 confirms her as a whole other person though. And it shows Caitlin and Frost having internal conversations with each other just like other systems. Caitlin and Frost gradually learn to accept each other throughout the series, and you can see Caitlin letting Frost regularly front to live her own life in season 6.

🤚i wanna know about your misce identity! how is it like to be tridynamic? do you have scents? what are some instincts you have? how do you personally view each dynamic? (specially interested on betas because its the one dynamic people have very different "headcannons" for) :3< /nf

Hello!!!!

It's interesting to be tridynamic, lol. I have some instincts and stuff from all three of my dynamics but mostly Beta.

I do have scent(s), my scent(s) are woods/forest, fur (don't know how exactly to explain this part except for that, lol), and kind of chocolatey.

Some instincts (hopefully these all count as instincts, lol) are nesting/dening (is that how it's spelled?), the urge to take care of others, the urge to be cared for, and others. My behaviors and stuff are mainly based on canines, some felines, and crow-like behaviors, lol.

Each dynamic is very different for each person really. But for me specifically, I will explain a bit of how it affects me. I'm not gonna go into any nsfw topics, so ruts and heats are not gonna be mentioned except for this.

The Omega part of me is very much more towards being cared for and very "typical"/"traditional" Omega things (cooking, cleaning, taking care of pups/kids, etc).

The Alpha part of me is very much more towards taking care of others and very "typical"/"traditional" Alpha things (protective, little bit more aggressive, etc).

The Beta part of me is kinda a mixture between Alpha and Omega, but also, it's kinda hard to explain exactly. Very much a mixture of the urge to care for others and the urge to be cared for.

If anyone wants to share their own misce identity, feel free to comment or reblog to share it!!

- Cyan 🩵 | RWBY kin of Shay 🐾

New intro post, you can see our old intro posts by looking for "intro post" as a tag on our blog.

Hello, this is mainly my fictionkin account for my ockin, Zuki Shay Hara-Lupo. I am a noncanon MHA/BNHA being/creature. You can call me Zuki, Shay, or Lupo, whatever you prefer!

My canon was divergent from the manga and anime. If you want to know more about my canon, send in an ask, or you can see some things on my original intro posts. The only thing I will mention here is that UA was a college instead of a high school, so my class and I were all 18 at the start of the first year at UA.

In this life, the body is currently 19, so keep that in mind. We don't mind minors interacting. Just know I (the host) am more hesitant to interact with minors myself.

We try and make sure our posts are all tagged well, especially for tw or cw, if you see a post of ours that doesn't have a tw or cw that needs to be tagged tagged, then let us know and we'll fix it.

We are alterhuman/nonhuman in more ways in this life and in my (the host) life as Zuki, so that will also be brought up on our account.

We will not answer/post any donation asks if you want to know why you should be able to find the posts we made about it by using the tag "no donation asks." [Had to make this bigger and bold, so hopefully, people will listen]

We will block for any reason. Especially when it comes to hate.

This is an endo safe space. We will not judge systems/plural beings for their origins. If you don't like this, leave.

We are also disabled, both in this life and in my (the host) life as Zuki, so that will also be on our blog. [In this life for all the ones after this]. We are autistic and ADHD for sure. We have a learning disability and depression as well diagnosed. We believe we might have OCD and PTSD but are not sure yet. I know we have some form of anxiety, but it's not diagnosed. We all (alters) experience these disabilities so yeah.

Because of our disabilities, we need a service dog in this life. [I also had one as Zuki]. We will likely post more about the service dog when we finally get our stuff together and do more about it.

We are plural. The terms that seem to fit our origin right now are; quoigenic, unknown, and cryptogenic.

- Zuki Shay Lupo (They/it/hx/xe/ze/he + more neos/xenos) | currently a they/it time for my pronouns

Mostly try to bold edits

Edits from Oct 22 to Nov 7: Added tag things, changed words on some tag things, changed parts of the post, added parts to the post, and edited the sign off on the post.

Edit from Nov 8: Edited signoff tag things.

Edit Nov 11: Edited signoff tag things

Tags that are for specific things;

# howling and barking at the moon - poems/poetry

# howling into the past - past life/kin memories good

# barking into the past - past life/kin memories bad

# woof woof reblog - rebloging alterhuman/nonhuman stuff or adding alterhuman/nonhuman stuff in my reblog

# other reblog - rebloging without alterhuman/nonhuman stuff

# confused howling - questioning system/plural stuff, including origin and alters

# disabled pup - disability things

# meowing in confusion - idk this is just for when I am confused about something

# little pup - sfw age regression things when pup is used to refer to me

# little kitten - sfw age regression things when kitten/kit is used to refer to me

# howling barking and meowing - talking about stuff tag, idk lol

# tri beta noises sfw - sfw misceverse stuff

# tri beta noises nsfw - nsfw misceverse stuff

# multi noises - system/plural things

# multi reblog - system/plural reblogs

# 💚🩵🐾🪶 - Shay/Zuki Shay Lupo | host and MHA/BNHA kin put together, lol

# 🌊🔷️🌟🎨 - Lakey | alter

# 😺🤎🍓🥓 - Declan (The cat face changes based on mood of post) | alter

# 🐈🐈‍⬛🍗🥛 - Lynix | alter

# 🐺🦾🦿🤖 - Oynx Afton (the middle two are supposed to just represent animatronic shit) | no idea whether this is a kin or an alter, lol

# 🟤🐺🐾🌕 - Phalen Lupe (supposed to represent werecanine/werewolf) | either kin or alter

# 🗣💚🦮🥦 - Shirley | alter

# 🐺🌠😇😈 - Vesper Lucian (supposed to represent fallen angel) | now we are kinda thinking this is an alter

# 🩵🦴🐾🪽 - Cyan Lupo | RWBY kin

# ❓️⁉️❔️🤔 - ? (don't know who the fuck this person is, think they are an alter though?)

# 💬🗣❓️❔️- When confused who is fronting

Realized just a bit ago that it's my/our birthday today (May 25th) from my/our life as Zuki, lol.

- Zuki 🪶 from the ShaySubpack 🐾🪶🩵🖌

Can any being(s) explain exactly what each "level" of support needs mean? (High, medium, and low are the ones we have seen/heard)

Cause we literally aren't sure what we count under.

Like it almost seems like we are low-medium support needs or high-low support needs (like on the lower side of medium or higher side of low).

Does this make any sense?

- Shay 🐾