Love this post!!!
We ourselves don't have DID or OSDD [at least not diagnosed, and we won't argue with anyone on if we do or do not actually have either of these]. We think that those disorders don't fit us because of reasons related to our own experiences, and arguing with us isn't gonna change shit.
However, we do think our plurality relates at least a little to our trauma, so in that way, we are both under the "endogenic" label and "traumagenic". The origin we describe ourselves as is specifically "quoitraumagenic" which is a mix of "quoigenic" and "traumagenic". We have a post with the definition from a website about plurality.
We don't typically want to talk about our origin(s?) for our plurality. We are plural, and that's all that actually matters.
- Shay 🐾
hey, i saw a post on here saying you guys support non "traumagenic" systems and I was wanting to know if thats true.
You guys are so amazing and have helped me with my identity a lot, but this information is really important to me as a trauma survivor with severe PTSD. If you are pro endos but are open to listening to trauma survivors and phycology sources, I absolutely will provide them. I want you guys to be a safe space for people with PTSD and dissociative disorders so bad, as people who has OSDDDID tend to have more "contradictory" labels in the first place, due to the complex relationship all the different alters identities make combined.
I'm hoping so much that you'll be open to listening if this is true.
hello! i'm good, i don't need any!
if you only have severe PTSD and not a dissociative disorder and do not identify as plural, you should NOT be commenting on plurality at all. like i hate to break it to you, but if you do not deal with plurality, you do not know what the experience is like. reading papers about it will not give you insight into how people actually live.
i'm an inclusive Dissociative Identity Disorder system who is 100% pro endo, and any other type of system. i support ALL plurals, i don't cherry pick. you're correct, this blog is a safe space, especially for people with "contradictory" identities or ones that "don't make sense." why wouldn't i be here for endogenic and non traumagenic systems?
that would go against everything i stand for.
i am a trauma survivor as well. i *have* DID, i don't really need any resources on the matter- before I was diagnosed i spent years researching, and i still do keep up with research. i am aware that DID and OSDD are caused by trauma! generally it's severe, repeated trauma and/or neglect. i have no memories of my life before the age of 10. i too have severe PTSD, i have a diagnosis for C-PTSD in specific. i live with this every day of my life. i still have a lot of trauma and triggers. i black out and lose time and regularly forget who i am or where i'm at.
something to keep in mind is research on DID has literally 0 bearing on other types of plurality. just because there is a lot of research into DID, OSDD, etc. does not mean that other plural experiences do not exist. when ONLY siting medical sources and saying that because there's no other "proof" or "evidence" that other types of plurality "can't" exist, it's an appeal to authority. there is no research data to point toward because studies on DID and OSDD and other dissociative disorders have really only gained traction within the last 10 - 20 years maximum. this is an extremely recent phenomenon! just because there are no (paid, keep in mind that studies have to find funding, and investors are picky) medical papers or studies to point toward doesn't mean something isn't happening.
someone identifying as plural without trauma is not an affront to plurals who do have trauma. someone identifying as a system who doesn't have or know of any childhood trauma is not spitting in your face. i've seen this take around and it's just not it. don't take someone else's mental health as an attack on yours. it's not hurting you at all for people to identify as plural if they don't have trauma. it's not spitting in *my* face, so it's not spitting in yours, either. it's okay to let non traumagenic systems exist. it's not exacerbating your trauma or re-traumatizing you or subjecting you to new trauma.
they're not saying that your trauma is invalid just because they don't have any. i don't like people who get on a high horse because they have a dissociative disorder and act like they get to police how other people's brains work. you only know how your brain works. you do not know how any other type of system works.
endogenic systems are not identifying as endogenic to spite you or dissociative systems. they're not doing it to hurt you. they're doing it because they identify as multiple people. that is not being done with the intention to hurt anyone. this is about THEM, not you. nobody is the protagonist of the plural community. no one.
as a plural, myself, i get to choose who i support. and i choose to support people who aren't hurting anyone or doing anything wrong. i really don't care how offensive some people find non traumagenic systems, but they're not hurting you, me, or anyone else. live and let live. you don't know how someone else's brain works. you will never be able to know how someone else's brain works. accepting that will make your life easier.
being angry at other people for not having trauma will not make yours go away or undo what was done to you. you should never take out your frustrations on people who haven't hurt you. endos haven't hurt you, you just don't agree with them. these are 2 separate things. also you really don't have the right to comment on the nature of how complex non traumagenic plurality is or is not- endogenic systems can have just as many nuanced and complex identities regardless of whether or not they're dissociating. they're still multiple people whether or not you see them that way. they also have complex identities, why wouldn't they? being different people leads to a lot of complexity. you should still see them as multiple people even if you don't think it's legit. that's basic respect for another person who, again, literally hasn't hurt you.
also endogenic and non dissociative systems are still people, and we should still care about them. they're still people even if you don't agree with them, and again: they have not hurt you by virtue of existing.
hope that helps and makes sense. i am not open to changing my mind on this, but i appreciate you giving me a good reason to explain my stance on the matter. i don't have the right to police other people and tell them how their own brains work. you don't have that right, either. i'm not here to police anyone. that goes against everything i stand for. i don't gatekeep.
i'm not a cop.
We are gonna just call us (Shay & "kins") a subpack. If we end up being technically "wrong" with that term, then oh well.
- Shay 🐾
We have a question for plural beings.
How do you know if you are a subsystem/part of a subsystem?
We are now kinda questioning if "me" (Shay and "my" kins) are technically a subpack (we use pack instead of system).
We/I get uncomfortable at times saying I/me/my/etc when it should fit (example; my wings) and would much rather say we/us/our/etc at those times. But then there are also times when we/I seem to have no real problem with I/me/my/etc.
Even if we figure out that we are a subpack in our pack, we would still probably just refer to the "kins" as just that cause fictive feels weird for them?
Honestly, we are just pretty confused, lol.
Like "my kins" feel like "me" more than my/our other packmates, but idk.
- Shay 🐾
We need to clean a room, do any beings have any tips? (We need tips that keep in mind that our issues are mainly from AuDHD and chronic pain rn).
- Shay 🐾
Gonna be making a new account/blog.
Gonna put a link on here to it and gonna put a link on it to here.
We will still be using this account sometimes, we just wanna have another one as well.
- Shay (They/it)
Hello! This is my fictionkin/OCkin account! My name is Zuki Shay Hara-Lupo, but I prefer to be called Zuki or Shay or Lupo if you prefer using last names! I am a kin of a noncanon character/OC for My Hero Academia or Boku no Hero Academia!
My canon is quite a bit divergent than the manga and/or anime. By that, I mean;
UA was a college instead of a high school. So me and my friends/classmates [Izuku/Deku, Bakugo, etc] were all around 18 years old.
Some of the fights and shit didn't happen. What did happen that I remember is the USJ, the sports festival, the summer camp [plus what happened after bc Bakugo got kidnapped], and uh, that's all I can think of currently for main fights and shit that happened. What didn't happen was the actual war, and Izuku leaving UA, I wasn't gonna let one of my best friends, especially one who was like a brother to me, leave UA like that.
Some of my friends would likely be different from the manga and/or anime.
They are also more noncanon characters that I am/was close to as well.
Some other things specifically about me are;
The gender identities I use are pretty much just genderqueer and trans masc enby - both as Zuki and with this life/body.
My pronouns are they/hx/he/it/paw/wing - both as Zuki and with this life/body.
Sexuality and shit are aroace spec queer [more specifically cupioromantic and just ace?] - I've realized that this probably isn't worded quite right, this is my identities I remember from being Zuki, although I'm pretty sure I'm also cupioromantic in this life/body cause of course [also somewhere on the ace spec in this life/body lol].
My quirk/power is hard for me to explain, lol, but one aspect is that I had animal attributes [wolfdog ears & tail and crow wings + some other animal characteristics]. The best way I can explain the other part of my quirk is that it's like the quirk from Dis(associate) by BeyondTheClouds777 on AO3 (loved this fic, felt relatable and shit!).
I was adopted by Aizawa/Eraserhead and Yamada/Present Mic! My adopted siblings were Eri and Shinso/Hitoshi! I called Aizawa dad and Present Mic pa or papa lol! I called Shinso Toshi and bro! I called Eri sissy mainly!
Two picrews that are basically how I look like [add the tail from the second to the first or the wings from the first to the second]; - Will be changed to the drawing I plan to do if I decide to post it
I am also an alterhuman in other ways in both this life and my life as Zuki! [Btw yes to me, this identity comes from a past life].
That's all I can really think of, so with that bye! You can stick around with my account, or you can leave. Any hate will be blocked.
- Zuki Shay Lupo! :3c
These messages really do get a lot longer than expected, lol.
I could go into more detail about a lot of things, but then we'd probably be at this like all day, lol. While that'd be fun, it's probably better to not do that, lol.
Just want to say that you're really cool! And it's really great talking with you! I don't really have many people to talk to about all this, so it's really nice being able to ramble about memories with someone!
I just realized that I typed Shoto with the u, which he didn't have in my canon, lol. So ignore the u, I'm too lazy to go and change it, lol.
I'm glad that you told Toga Himiko that her quirk doesn't make her evil. I remember that when I first met her after the training camp [I wasn't really involved in that fight anyways], I told her that I had been called tons of names and shit because of my quirk.
I was called "Monster" "Freak" "Evil" etc.
But the one that really 'stuck' was being told that "Not even a villain would want your quirk." So, uh yeah, that sucks. They were basically saying that my quirk was so useless and bad that no one would ever want it. It's what made it easier for me to see people with "evil" or "villain" or "useless" or whatever other word people said quirks as good and deserving of love and worth so much. Quirks are really just a tool in a way. It's how someone uses it that makes the person. Quirkless people are also worth so much, and I wish that people had seen that more.
I remember giving Toga some of my blood on that day that I actually met her [this happened before I was adopted. It was like right after the dorms were made] and saying something like, "I won't let someone starve if I could help them." Cause at least in my canon, she needed to drink blood to live, so yeah. Quirk diets or whatever you wanna call them suck [I had to eat more meat and sometimes needed to eat what would essentially be raw meat, it was slightly cooked but not quite rare, but it wasn't fully raw, idk. I just know it sucked cause of being scared of how people would see me.].
- Zuki Shay Lupo (They/it/hx)
Hello, I decided to come say hi and shit in an ask, lol.
I'm not good at starting conversations, but I would like to hear about any alterhuman or nonhuman experiences or memories or anything that'd you'd be willing to share!
- Zuki Shay Lupo (They/it) | a fellow noncanon MHA being/creature :3c
aaa hihi!! good to hear from you, i definitely feel you on the 'bad at starting conversations' lol!
the first thing that comes to mind a memory of playing video games with Tomura and Shuichi. I wasn't very good at it, but it was good bonding and i loved playing with them. I would only play the 'silly' games like Mario Kart or Smash Bros, they got too into the 'serious' ones for me. I finished in last place every time lmao, so i mostly spent my time teasing whoever was in second place. Dabi would sit with us too sometimes, either lazily scrolling on his phone or bothering the three of us, trying to help whoever would give him the most attention lol. The others joined in sometimes too, Himiko and Jin and rarely Sho and Toshi if they were hanging out. Himiko would shriek excitedly and bump us while Jin cheered her on and cursed her out. It was good.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to ramble lol!! Feel free to share any memories/thoughts you have :D
Mood.
We already had them filtered, so we could avoid the posts if needed and we are still having some issues.
Hope this reblog is ok since it's not actually talking about it?
Stay safe as well. <3 (heart is platonic)
- Shay (They/it) | :3c
i've done my best to reblog helpful things, to use this blog to help with the fear and pain and grief. It has helped, a bit. but from now on i'm blocking election and politics tags. please don't bring it up with me, or tag me in it, or whatever. i need this to be an escape for me. stay safe, all of you, especially if you're a minority. i love you.
Tw/cw: suicide, all caps in parts of our post
Ok, this is a great post, love it, thank you.
BUT PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING; TAG OR ADD THE TRIGGER WARNING FOR SUICIDE!! SOME BEINGS NEED TO BE ABLE TO FILTER POSTS WITH THAT OUT SO PLEASE ACTUALLY FUCKING TAG IT!!
As I said, it's a great post, and we love it, but still, tags of this kind are very important, so please tag any trigger warnings, especially suicide.
- Shay (They/it)
queer people of all kinds. i am looking you in the eyes. do not fucking kill yourself. are you listening to me it will be okay. it will get better. i am shaking you by the shoulders do. not. fucking. do. it. you have so much to keep going for and so many people who love you. the cost of the present will not outweigh the life ahead of you. i love you. chin up or down keep walking you'll get there. we will pull you back up onto your feet should you fall. i love you
Ask game!
Put full question(s) in ask please.
- Shay 🐾
what term(s) do you prefer to be referred to as (otherkin, therian, nonhuman, etc.)?
what are you(r kintypes/theriotypes)?
most niche/obscure 'type?
what foods do you associate with your 'type(s)?
what colors do you associate with your 'type(s)?
do you own any gear? if so, what is it?
best/favorite thing about being nonhuman?
worst/least favorite thing about being nonhuman?
what activities help you connect with your 'type(s)?
do you associate any music with your 'type(s)? do you have a playlist?
do you collect anything besides wearable gear that you associate with your 'type(s), such as plushies or merch?
do your 'type(s) influence your sense of style or the way you dress?
would you consider yourself a furry? if so, do you have a fursona? is your fursona based on one of your 'type(s)?
draw or share your artwork of your 'type(s)?
this isnt a question but a request that you drink some water!
authors note: feel free to reblog! other beings can ask you questions from this list, or you can simply answer them all yourself.
We are both transgender (specifically genderqueer/enby) and nonhuman (and we actually would love to use the term transspecies more for ourselves, honestly [more so me than my fellow packmates]).
Transspecies beings are not taking anything away from (other) trans people.
People are gonna hate what they hate. If people really try to use transspecies beings as a reason to hate on transgender people, then they were never really supportive of trans people in the first place.
Remember, be yourself/yourselves as long as you're not hurting anyone!
- Shay 🐾 | The host, who always fronts, of the Wildlife Pack
I'm starting to realize my past views about the term "transpecies" don't align with my current morals and I'm kinda playing with the term. To anyone who uses the term, what are your thoughts about it? Why do you think it's an okay term to use or why not?
I've heard people call it offensive to trans people before but ive also heard that take is pitting two communities against eachother for no reason/one identity doesn't discredit another. I can't think of any actually good reasons against the term tbh. It feels like one of those things I heard about through people being like "have you heard some people call themselves trans species and want to become animals??" And out of fear of being ostracized myself agreed with other peoples views of it. Now I think that's a nothing argument and discredits peoples identities because they are "weird". To be honest, I think the only difference between being a therian/otherkin and transpecies is the label and people only disagree with the label because they are worried about trangender people being ostracized or seen as "just as weird" and transpecies people.
We aren't really good at drawing but we are thinking of starting to do commissions soon. Are there any good tips for both art and commissions?
Like what's the best way to get the money from commissions (PayPal, gofundme, etc)? [And other tips for commissions].
Also just art/drawing tips for both traditional and digital.
[We don't have a job, are working on getting disability income, and the body's dad only gets disability and retirement so we don't have very much money.]
Edit: Also, what would you like to see us try to do commissions of? (Examples: animals, anthro animals, humans/human-like beings, etc).
- Shay 🐾