to put in as simply as i can. telling someone that you do not believe their experiences with themself, that science has yet to prove either way, saying that is inherently wrong ableist and that they don't actually know themselves, is not kind. no matter how you word it. people are allowed to take offense to that, and people have every right to not want to be around you after that.
not targeted or directed at anyone /srs
i will explode everyone that tells us that we are not 'separate beings'. we are and thats who we view ourselves as, deal with it. like i know thats probably not how you view yourself or whatever but yall gotta remember the system and plural experience is a wide one. and there are gonna be systems and plurals that experience things you dont.
we say we are separate beings. treat us as such.
and DONT correct us or try to tell us what we are.
-Natasha/Angel and Syntax
Here's to proxy systems!
A proxy system is defined as "where one functions as a singlet (or approximately close to one[...]) due to a frontstuck host, yet members of the system are [...] distinct in headspace" [via Pluralpedia].
Shoutout to proxy systems who:
Are median
Have OSDD-1A or P-DID
Live life as a singlet most of the time, or only tell close loved ones about their system
Also identify as specutien
Didn't initially know they were a proxy system due to lack of information in plural spaces
Thought their system might've been something else at first, such as a kin system, or thought that they were just a singlet
Please know you are so important to us! You deserve as much place in the plural community as anyone else! Did you know how amazing you are? Well, now you do! It's going to be ok, and you'll get through anything you might be facing right now.
We love you!
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soulbonding culture is the realization of why there aren't alot of sources around; and being sad about it (Hi! This is a reply to a different anon. Apparently soulbonding is very old and alot of old websites were deleted!)
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I do believe in my heart that maybe a lot of fictives out there are Soulbounds but are too bombarded by their host that theyâre fictives/introjects that they donât realize their life actually was real and isnât just a coping mechanism for their host.
Unconventional fictive culture is looking at your "brother" (not actually siblings, but we have that relationship and everyone knows us as siblings) and realizing you have some kind of Feelings for him. Despite not knowing exactly what those Feelings are other than "if anyone hurts you I will kill them" and thinking it would be nice to kiss and cuddle him, maybe...
...and immediately accepting that you can never talk about this to anyone, ever. At least not anyone external.
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Its been ages before I have had to speak up about someone elses harmful actions since that system hottake blog.
This doesnât make me any less anti endo, nor does it mean that we support endogenic systems, in fact, we personally donât believe that itâs even possible to be endogenic and that most of them are either:
- misguided by those who prey on minors (like sophie),
- have DID but donât remember their trauma,
- are confusing their symptoms for DID when they probably have a different disorder,
- are experiencing something that no one is able to give a proper name to so they make it sound like a CDD when itâs clearly not,
- or are just straight up insane (ahem, like sophie)
You do not, under any circumstances, bully people, even if they have hurt you or you really really hate them to the core. âOh but endos are evil, theyâre ableist scums of the earth and they constantly hurt us and shit-â YOU DONT STOOP TO THEIR LEVEL.
Wanna know why they absolutely despise us? This is why
When you give radical anti endos a platform to speak, a platform to target endos who are most likely just trying to exist, you get people bullying them. You get people who are attacking the other community and harassing them. When you enable radical anti endos a platform to speak, you are hurting both communities
Anti endos have been fighting for ages to get basic respect from the other side and to just be left alone and not have people roleplay or romanticize the disorder, but radicals literally undo all the hard work by giving pro endos a reason to bully and harass back and invalidate all of us because of a select few, which is also exactly how we treat them when we are being attacked by people like sophieinwonderland or other radical pro endos
I could probably guarantee you that the majority of the system community just wants this useless fighting to stop and for all the bullying, harassment, and ableism to stop. I can guarantee you that most people on BOTH sides are not fully one or the other, and that we fall closer to the middle and have nuanced stances on certain topics. We are not robots, we have complex opinions, and syscourse is no exception.
If you donât want the other side to interact with you then block them and set your boundaries. Filter out tags you donât want to see, block people like this person who you know are toxic and hurt people regardless of what their stances are. You are responsible for how you want to interact and contribute to the community. It is your responsibility to be the better person.
And if you see problems within your own community, SPEAK UP ABOUT IT. When you stay silent knowing that you have seen the problems that exist within the community, you are complicit in the bullying and harassment. You are letting radicals dictate the reputation of your community. This goes for both anti and pro endos. Stop staying silent, otherwise nothing will change.
I know this system community can do better. I have seen the good from both sides. We really should stop fighting and actually respect each other and understand that our experiences are different from one another and it doesnât automatically make their experiences invalid just because they donât match yours. Who knows, if we can actually get along we would be a lot more empathetic towards each other and maybe, JUST MAYBE, we could stop the actually ableist fuckers and the bullies who are ruining it for everyone. We could actually work together and take down harmful spaces like r/syscringe and r/fakedisordercringe, these harm BOTH COMMUNITIES and are places that ENABLE BULLYING AND FAKECLAIMING.
Nothing gets done when people stay silent, when people stay divided, and when you ignore the problems in your own community that the opposition has constantly been highlighting on for ages. Learn what makes someone radical in their beliefs, learn the difference between what is actually wrong versus what is just an opinion that conflicts with your own beliefs because those two are NOT the same. Learn to stay away from toxic spaces and warn others of these places, like the K9 Cave server on discord or r/syscringe on reddit. Educate yourself, not just on CDDs and how they actually work but also on endogenic experiences and how they affect people who genuinely believe that they are endogenic. You may not personally believe in them, but if you stay educated on these topics then it benefits both communities and you could actually help someone who may have something misunderstood or is unknowingly spreading misinformation about it. You really canât expect pro endos and endos to do their research about CDDs but then also not listen to their experiences and their ideas on the complexities of plurality. You donât have to agree with it, but if you refuse to even listen to them then its pretty hypocritical to ask them to listen to you.
I donât have to accept their experiences as pure fact or scientifically proven, but I can respect it and be empathetic instead of bullying them and understand that in reality, we donât know everything. I shouldnât have to risk âlooking like a pro endoâ or seem like I am siding with them when I am very much anti endo to get this point across:
Iâm not here to say that âoh endos are validâ or âoh endos are invalidâ that is not my point. My point is that even if you donât share the same views, opinions and experiences with them, you have no right to bully them.
There is a fuckton that we donât know. This world is already against all of us in general. The best we can do is work together and have basic respect for each other. Just, basic respect, you donât even need to interact with the other side, just respect each others boundaries.
Please reblog and share this, both anti and pro endos. And please donât go harassing this person, donât give them a reason to target you. This post is incredibly important for both communities especially since the rise of bullying from BOTH sides has caused extreme turmoil for those who end up getting caught in the crossfire.
This silly plan of the Cambrian Crew,
This challenge to write rhymes, by a few
Of the boredest of us - Varyn and Shiloh,
To push the limits of where syscourse can go.
We can be clever, we can be kind,
We can disagree or be one in mind...
But can we say things in rhyme that are meaningful, wise?
It can't hurt to at least give it a few tries.
So this is our first test, and so we say, we see:
Whatever your kind of system, what caused you to be
Many in mind, not an I but a We...
We welcome you, see you, respect you, believe:
The intertwined lives that your systemmates weave
Is a beautiful, wonderful living tapestry.
Each thread of your life, whether bright or grim,
Is stronger for having been woven as Them.
And maybe this is a cold take but you guys need to really stop checking things that upset you/insult you/make you feel not real. Stop checking r/syscringe. Stop checking syscourse tags. Stop interacting with things that hurt your mental health more. Ultimately, it doesnât matter. And it wonât get better just because you keep checking back on it.
The want and desire of wanting amnesia and dissasociative barriers so everyone can have their own privacy vs the need to monitor what everyone's doing.
A message to the younger members of the community, and those who doubt there place in it:
Beings don't care.
I went to a therian meet up over anthro northwest. And it was NOTHING like the current online spaces, especially all the discourse.
There was no fighting. It was beautiful. Beings were freely using whatever labels they wanted, no one cared "why" someone identified as something, mental, spiritual, physical. Everyone was like "Hey, cool!".
Older folks talked about their time in the community while the younger ones did quads. People howled, played with squeak toys. No one cared. And most importantly, everyone agreed the infighting was pointless.
You WILL be accepted irl. This discourse doesn't matter. You are going to find your beings, and none of these online pissing contests mean anything once you meet others off the screen.
It's a beautiful place out there.
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