A message to the younger members of the community, and those who doubt there place in it:
Beings don't care.
I went to a therian meet up over anthro northwest. And it was NOTHING like the current online spaces, especially all the discourse.
There was no fighting. It was beautiful. Beings were freely using whatever labels they wanted, no one cared "why" someone identified as something, mental, spiritual, physical. Everyone was like "Hey, cool!".
Older folks talked about their time in the community while the younger ones did quads. People howled, played with squeak toys. No one cared. And most importantly, everyone agreed the infighting was pointless.
You WILL be accepted irl. This discourse doesn't matter. You are going to find your beings, and none of these online pissing contests mean anything once you meet others off the screen.
It's a beautiful place out there.
do you ever feel like you're faking but in a 'this feels forced'/'these people are too unrealistic' way? e.g, you have a headmate who can speak a different language, but can't translate said language to you when asked? or because your brain is so exhausted from dissociating constantly, headmates personalities start to get weird and fuzzy and they say stuff they'd never do (to me, it feels like they're melting back into a singlet because my brain can't hold their personalities together)?
Wanted to make a positivity post regarding some things that we see fake-claimed based on our experiences.
So shout out to systems who:
Are mostly fictives!
Can sometimes/frequently willingly switch!
Have low amnesia barriers!
Have little to no difference in how alters type/speak!
Aren't entirely sure about being a system!
Are certain in being a system!
Speak aloud more often then internally!
Have/had maladaptive daydreaming!
Split due to hyperfixations!
Have had alters fuse due to trauma!
Openly switch in public!
Split tons of headmates at once!
Have had some sort of communication since childhood!
Don't want to fuse!
Don't have access to their headspace memory!
Have triggers that pull alters OUT of front!
Believe your own experiences! If you feel like you might be plural, you probably are.
i feel so left out. like everyone around me knows how to be a human and i donโt.
I've noticed that when someone is asking if they might be a therian (this happens more on YouTube, TikTok, etc), and they describe having a connection to an animal, there will sometimes be a reply that goes something like "Oh, you are probably just otherhearted!" Just. It's a small word but it changes the attitude. You're not that animal, you just have a connection to them. It makes it seem like being otherhearted isn't as deep as being nonhuman/semihuman/fictional. When it can be and often times is. For me, the connections I feel to my hearttypes are just as important to me as my kintypes and nonhumanity.
This leads into the bigger issue that I've noticed. Otherhearted beings (seemingly) are often brushed off as less than, when they are still an alterhuman/alterbeing. They are apart of this community just as much as any alterbeing is.
And further more, I've noticed that humans in the alterhuman community are overlooked. Perhaps this is just what I've seen because I spend my time in primarily nonhuman spaces. But there are plenty of humans in this community, and they are just as alterhuman/alterbeing as any of us are.
Host culture is wanting to talk about your fictive headmate but theyโre disliked in the fandom (villain). And trying to shield them from that judgment by not talking about them my name
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Otherhearted culture is like they're you but a little to the left. In a different color palette, in a different life. Parallel lines, running close but never touching.
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Syscourse Speedrun
- Endogenic means a system formed for reasons not correlated to trauma
- Endogenic does NOT mean a complete lack of trauma in an individual
- Endogenics, Pro-Endos and adjacent fundamentally view systemhood differently and outside of solely disordered experiences
That said...
- Complex Dissociative Disorders (DID/OSDD/Etc) have well known and studied ties to trauma, with complexity rising from prolonged and severe cases.
- Trauma is not part of diagnostic criteria to include those who cannot remember their trauma due to dissociation. Not because it isn't an important or known factor.
- Integration =/= Fusion, Integration is the lessening of dissociative barriers and a systems ability to function together. Fusion is the merging of parts.
- Final fusion and functional multiplicity are both viable end goals and up to the systems desires and needs. Integration is required for both of these.
- People are allowed to be affected positively AND negatively by their disorders and life experiences.
- People are also allowed to view their disorders in whatever way they desire
- It is not your job to police people because you think what they're doing is harmful for them.
- It is also not your job to tell people they have trauma that they just don't know about.
- Dissociation is a spectrum.
- Other disorders experience dissociative parts with less elaboration like those with DID/OSDD/Etc
- Westernized Tulpamancy and Tulpas as known today are not directly related to Tibetan Buddist Nirmanakaya or Sprul-pa. Westernized Tulpamancy comes from 20th century mystic explorers, who developed these ideas mostly independently.
- Vajrayana and Mahayana Buddhism are open and inclusive religions anyway, but what Tulpamancers practice is very different.
- There is a conversation to be had about the suppression of religious freedom that has affected Tibetan Buddhism, but it's still not a closed practice.
- Something here about Theosophy in relation to Westernized Tulpamancy
- Plural is not solely synonymous with system, and not everyone who identifies as plural is a system.
- Not every system will identify as plural either.
- The term plural has ties to other non-system communities such as alterhumanity.
- Plural is an inherently inclusive term.
- People are allowed to be wrong about their origins in whatever potential way.
- Being wrong is not equivalent to faking.
- Origins are self applied labels and tell you very little about a person and their system
- Origins can and often do overlap.
- Endogenic origins does not mean a system cannot be diagnosed and meet criteria for a CDD.
- People are allowed to view and label their parts in whatever way is best for them.
- System accountability is important. You are one tangible entity and you take responsibility for the things that occur because of your system.
- Discourse stances do not make a person or space inherently safer or more dangerous.
- People's actions speak louder than labels, and anyone can be a horrible person.
- Its up to a system to determine their own boundaries and needs.
- You don't need to argue if your boundaries differ from someone else's; enforce your own.
- Block people and topics that make you uncomfortable and especially if they're potentially triggering.
- Genuinely, please just learn to be friends with the block button.
- Harassment is bad no matter who you are.
- Yes it's still bad if you disagree with someone or think they're in the wrong.
- Criticism is not harassment.
- Even if you don't intent to change your mind, facilitating genuine conversation with people instead of assuming things about them or their experiences will contribute to a better interaction for both sides.
- Ableism is bad.
- Stop using things like delusional as Insults or treating people with ficticious disorder poorly.
- Stop treating mentally ill adults as inherently incapable of functioning or dictating things for themselves.
- Sanism is Also bad.
- Fake claiming is bad.
- Stop insinuating that pro-endos (and adjacent) aren't traumatized, aren't systems or can't have CDDs.
- Yes, again, fake claiming is bad even if you don't like or disagree with someone.
- Stop saying its "so easy" to tell who fakers are.
- The psychiatric and mental health systems are full of flaws.
- Diagnosis is a privilege for some and isn't for others.
- Some people may not want or desire a diagnosis for many reasons. This does not make their problems any less than.
- Being medically recognized is just as valid as having a diagnosis.
- Yes, therapists can diagnose people with things. A title does not equal credentials.
- If a therapist cannot diagnose you due to their credentials or other factors but suspects something, they will refer you to another professional who can for evaluation.
- Some therapists will choose of their own volition not to diagnose patients for varying reasons.
- Self diagnosis and self suspecting isn't a bad thing. Research is always encouraged for accuracy of what you suspect.
- The resources people find through self diagnosis even if not the right thing to suspect can be helpful for someone's situation.
- Reiterating here again that being wrong isn't faking, and that being wrong isn't a bad thing.
- Being able to help yourself cope is a good thing.
- Recognizing your symptoms if you intend to speak to a professional is also a good thing.
People are all different, be kind.
If you have questions I'm glad to talk, if you are aggressive or just trying to start something, you will be blocked :)
love love love it when ppl refer to endos as our (CCD systems') siblings/cousins/family. like mm yes get pulled in like a magnet
This silly plan of the Cambrian Crew,
This challenge to write rhymes, by a few
Of the boredest of us - Varyn and Shiloh,
To push the limits of where syscourse can go.
We can be clever, we can be kind,
We can disagree or be one in mind...
But can we say things in rhyme that are meaningful, wise?
It can't hurt to at least give it a few tries.
So this is our first test, and so we say, we see:
Whatever your kind of system, what caused you to be
Many in mind, not an I but a We...
We welcome you, see you, respect you, believe:
The intertwined lives that your systemmates weave
Is a beautiful, wonderful living tapestry.
Each thread of your life, whether bright or grim,
Is stronger for having been woven as Them.
Seeing more and more pro endogenic folk being hateful to created systems, and I have one message;
They already have us divided between traumagenic and endogenic, and I'm unsure if its just a pattern on our tumblr, or in the plural community, but i would hate to see us divided by whether you are a created system or not.
Every system is valid. We are stronger together then apart, and anti-plurals see us as all the same mind you. Do not let anyone tell you otherwise.
'bittersweet cranberry flavoured with euphoria' ๐ plural ๐ชป otherhearted ๐
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