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I fucked up the ivantill drawing DRAMATICALLY so y'all can have the zestiest drawing I've ever made instead (IVANTILL IS COMING I JUST NEED TO REDO IT)
AAAAAAAA OH MY GOD QVIOJEJVOUBYUUYVUYGUGRFBKUFUTF Y'KNOW HOW I DREW THAT?? YKNOW HOW I DID IT?
I HAVE A DRAWING TABLET NOWWWWW!!
It's the XP PEN magic drawing tablet and it's so cool it has pressure sensitivity and free ibis paint premium and it comes with EVERYTHING OMG (case, pen, glove, extra pen nibs, tablet obv)
Anyways YAYYAYAYAYYAYA IM SO HAPPYYYYYY NFROEINGIOSNVIUNKRKFN
Drawing MOSTLY every character from Alien Stage: MIZI!!!
Some close ups:
Next up: IVANTILL!
DRAWING EVERY ALIEN STAGE CHARACTER YIPPEE (not the side characters I'm sorry acorn fans)
Here's Luka:
And.. Hyuna.. sorta.. kinda.. (I messed it up a lot and I'll probably redo it later)
Some close ups:
AND SUA!!!
Next, I'll be drawing Mizi to accompany her girlfriend, so stay tuned! look at those cuties kdkajdkwjsjdwjbr
Each alien stage character might have an instrument that symbolizes them in the instrumentals (theory below)
credits to my friend @chuuburar1n for adding some points and also helping me figure out what instruments are in some songs ^^
Basically to start, in each song with a character, an instrument is present for them, and that instrument goes in and out to fit the music. More on that later, but let me list them real quickly. I'll elaborate on each, dw!
Mizi - Piano
Sua - Violin
Till - Electric Guitar
Ivan - Drums (all songs have, but more prominent in his songs)
Luka - Violin, but instrument changes when mimicking
Hyuna - No set instrument
My Clematis
To start with my clematis, in the instrumentals, it's a piano and violin duet. Not out of the ordinary, per se, these are two commonly paired together instruments. However, what leads me to believe piano is Mizi and violin is Sua is the monologue sequence where only Mizi is speaking, there's only piano then. That's the only part in the song where there is, as it's the only part where they're not singing together. And, after Sua dies, the instrumentals come to a brief halt. When they start again, the piano remains similar, yet the violin is in a lower pitch sorta? (I don't play violin, im unaware of terminology, sorry ;-;) Because Mizi is alive and Sua is not. This one is a stretch but yeah.
EDIT: @chuuburar1n has informed me the lower pitch violin is a cello. So the violin does actually cease when Sua dies. Thank you Charly 🙏
Sweet Dream
I'm writing this out after an hours work, and realizing I completely forgot to listen to sweet dream's instrumentals and take notes.. No sweet dream, sorry! :( I'd love to see what others find if anyone else analyzes it ^^ /gen
Unknown (Till The End)
Anyway, onto Unknown. Unknown, there isn't much to really say, as it's a solo song, and most of my notes are around duet songs. However, one thing of note, is that Till is quite obviously electric guitar, and in this song, it's accompanied by piano. Mizi's instrument if my theory is correct. They're both instruments of accompaniment, so this choice to use them together interests me. In other songs in Alien Stage, the guitar is accompanied by drums, generally. This one is also a stretch, though.
Black Sorrow
Black Sorrow, there's prominent drums, which is what I believe to be Ivan's instrument based on this song and Cure. I had a hard time figuring out instruments for this one, but my friend (Thank you, Charly :]) said he heard cymbals and guitar which is typical to be paired with drums. Not much else to note.
Ruler of My Heart
Ruler of my Heart contains Piano, Violin, Drums, and possibly another instrument I can't really identify. Piano is present in all songs involving Mizi in some sort of way, as aforementioned in My Clematis. Not only that, but it takes the spotlight (although other instruments are present) when Mizi is beating up Luka. Violin also makes sense, because not only is it Luka's instrument, but it's also Sua's. And he's constantly mimicking others to try and manipulate people so, y'know, he can win. And his instrument changes with each song. More on that in other songs. I claim Violin is also his instrument as it makes his way into every song he's been in so far (Ruler of my Heart, Blink Gone, Wiege). Drums, i don't take any note of as they're present in literally every song, and at this point, neither Mizi nor Luka have any involvement with Ivan.
All-In
There's less instruments in All-In then there is in other songs. Drums, occasional guitar, and other sounds created by non instruments, like clicking and clapping. Adding to my point that I think Hyuna has no set instrument, why? Because she has no hallmark instrument in all her songs, yet also, she's a rebel, she's the only one of main cast free from the competition when introduced, hence why she lacks a signature instrument if that makes sense? It's a stretch, I know. My friend also pointed out that it could be because the rebels are out of alien stage so they don't have much musical equipment or the proper setting to make music. Hence the present of the non-conventional productions of sound to add, and the lack of instruments.
Cure
Cure's two prominent instruments are electric guitar and drums. Electric guitar is more prominent when Till sings. When Ivan begins to sing, the drums are not there at first, leaving just piano, then pick up and are more prominent. And when they both sing, they (as in Electric Guitar and Drums) both are prominent, unlike when the other's instrument is in the background of the other's part, accompanying. Also, when Ivan dies, the drums stop, leaving only electric guitar. Only the guitar, Till is left, and the drums, Ivan, aren't around anymore. I believe an instrument stopping or changing in a duet of instruments symbolizes a death generally, as it's present here, My Clematis, and somewhat in Wiege.
Blink Gone
This is where I get my Luka changing instruments motif. In Blink Gone, there is guitar, drums, piano, violin, and xylophone. Guitar picks up when Till sings, but Luka? When he sings, violin doesn't pick up, although it's played in the song by Luka, Piano does. I was stuck on this, but my friend then suggested the instrument change to represent how he mimics and changes to manipulate others. Yet it's not his true instrument. And I think that works really well. The one i believe is his true instrument, Violin, is present only at the end of the song, when it's clear he's winning. What's also worth noting is that the drums become more prominent in the parts where Till is thinking of Ivan. The end part with the Xylophone I don't have much to note on the symbolism behind it, maybe that it symbolizes childhood/innocence, I've heard people say it symbolizes Till's heartbeat? But although it does slow, you never hear it come to a halt, it just cuts out, which is why TILL IS ALI- (/j, I didn't use this in my evidence for why he's alive bc of how iffy it is. Go check out my Till is Alive theory if you want actual decent points on why I think he's alive lmao.)
Wiege
There's another point why I think Violin is Luka's instrument, and it's because this is what symbolizes him, when he isn't mimicking and he's being more true to himself when he's with Hyuna. Also, fun fact, the morse code in the beginning translates to 'ALIVE.' Because he feels alive when he's with Hyuna. Anyway, wiege has violin, piano, xylophone, and some sort of string instrument. I've talked about in the previous song how xylophone can symbolize childhood, when times were better. There's also just violin and accompanying instruments here because Hyuna doesn't have a set instrument. This is where I got iffy on my theory, because when Hyuna dies, Luka's instrument fades out, not any others. But I've realized it's a mix of how Hyuna has a lack of instrument, and Luka only feeling alive when he has HER. When Hyuna dies, he feels like he's died too; dying inside. Maybe he's still surviving, but is he really living?
I think I've covered everything and all my points and all. I don't know, I've been working on this for two hours, so my brain feels like mush. AuDHD be damned, i guess. Whether you choose to agree with me on these points is up to personal intereptation of the storyline! And if you read this far, thank you :)
one of my friends said she likes that trope where someone cries while hugging someone, and that she thinks someone should draw mizi and till as that, so I made this. not the best but whatever, i just drew this for my friend sage-
I'm still hung up on this
Every character that has died in Alien Stage so far has all gotten a comic from their own perspective.
Sua got one where she wants to tell her 'sister' that she found paradise in the hellish place.
Ivan compares his love with Sua's and thanks Till for being the victim for his shallow feelings.
Hyuna makes sense of her love for Luka, and tell him to take his time solving her puzzle.
All of them got to tell their perspective in some way.
...Except Till.
From start to finish, he never had interviews done, he never interacted much with other and just never...spoke.
The only time we ever see him outside of the videos in in the comics from other POV's.
His own death comic was not done in perspective. It was done in his mother's.
And Io loved her son. She cherished him and wanted him to find his happiness wherever he went.
But she never truly knew him. He was snatched away from her far too early for her to ever know him.
Till is a character who we, as an audience, only know from surface observation and the thoughts of others. We have no idea of what was actually going on in his head.
We have ideas for everyone else who are dead, except Till...
...WHICH IS WHY IN THIS ESSAY, I WILL PROVE TILL IS ALI- [gunshot]
ykw cringe culture is dead. throws some of my fandom OCs at you. in gacha too minus my isat oc because gacha is fun argue with the wall
I probably won't post about my OCs on here much but I was bored sooo
(First image: Aera, she/they, alnst oc
Second image: Akari, she/they/he, bllk oc
Third image: Kioka, she/her, pjsk oc
Fourth image: Rose, she/her, mouthwashing oc
Fifth image: Olive, she/they, sbg oc
Sixth image: Adaya, they/them, isat oc)
Why i genuinely think Till is Alive, because I'm tired of people thinking I'm joking
I have been working on this since November, help-
From a narrative standpoint, killing off Till would not be the right decision for writing. Each character dies and has a person to grieve them and experience growth based around their loss. Sua was grieved by Mizi, Hyuna will be grieved by Luka, and for Ivan, his person was Till. But if Till was dead only a few hours later, how could he recieve that character growth? I think if Till was dead, that wouldn't be good writing, and I'd be quite annoyed if he is dead.
This is slightly an add on to previous point, but the standees pretty clearly confirm it to me. Sua, Ivan, and Hyuna are all gray scaled and have angel wings. The others are in color and grieving their losses. If till was dead, wouldn't he also be an angel? It reinforces my long standing belief of him living.
There was no after-death comic like with Sua, Ivan, or Hyuna. It does not feel like he is supposed to be dead.
The things used to monitor heart rate in their ears, you can catch Mizi taking it out if you watch closely enough. Hence, sort of a way to fool the aliens into thinking they're dead, if that makes sense?
Also, at the end of round 7, his portrait flickered out and glitched. Others portraits went immediately out. Maybe it's because, I don't know, a heartbeat was still detected until she took out the monitor?
He didn't bleed out like the others did, you don't see a pool of blood, leaving me to believe the neck wound isn't that deep and can be treated. As long as it didn't pentrate the platsyma muscle he has good odds. (You guys do not wanna know how much I've researched neck wounds for this.)
His leg is still upright, which if he's dead, wouldn't really work? I mean there has to be blood flowing still for his leg to be up. He very well could just be unconscious, a multitude of factors would make fainting likely.
At the end of Wiege, Mizi's arms are over his face when they weren't before. Leading me to think, what if he opened his eyes and she's trying to hide it from the aliens? ALSO, my friend pointed out, if you turn up your volume at the end of wiege, YOU CAN LITERALLY HEAR A HEARTBEAT.
Art symbolism. In one piece of official art, he looks away from the camera while the others look at it. Maybe I'm delusional but it helps me believe he's alive even more. Also, in the art they posted after round 7, there's a red thing coming from his neck that looks like something used in a blood transfusion. Also the all-in cover art has a red bandage where he was shot.
Looking through my notes, I do have more evidence but it's sorta iffy. So these are my main points.
I really hope yall appreciate my theory and get what I mean because I started this theory November 19th. It's March 17th. Crazy.
Till is in color with Mizi and Luka while Ivan, Sua, and Hyuna are all in black and white. Okay!
wait do people believe me now when I say till is alive ?? chat I have believed this since the beginning everyone thought I was joking ;-; there's like so much conflicting evidence to me I have never saw him as dead- but yay for the new thingy for helping people agree I guess ?
MOCHA WHY NO STOP.
tw spoilers for alien stage
reminder that hyuna's last 7 mintues before she died was her and luka
"I am so excited to watch the new ALNST animation" I said with joys
I was then shot 36 times.
the universe is punishing me. Currently sobbing at 5 am over wiege. I have a cold, pink eye, and ear infection, period, and depressive episode all at once rn and then alien stage threw THAT on. Ohh hyuluka they make me sick/pos
I was a passionate till is alive truther but I am starting to lose hope. Fellow till is alive genuine believers do we see any hope he's alive and well after this. Well not well but ykwim.
AND HYUNA 💔💔💔 I EXPECTED THIS BUT HYUNA NO.
oh I'm gonna cry I'm gonna scream I'm gonna throw up I'm so upset right now oh my god. why did this have to be my hyperfixation this show ruins me
Edit: im more awake now and I'm still a till is alive truther I refuse to believe this man is dead. Also I miss Hyuna
was on a call with birb the other night while I was really tired and I was trying to explain alien stage to them (bc me and our other friend have been trying to make them watch it but haven't actually explained the plot) and my dumbass went "it's like gacha life singing battles but better"
I did actually try to explain the plot afterwards but yk. gacha life singing battles is funnier
new art style test with sua as my test subject bc I love her
vivimeng drop an ivan ruler of my heart cover and my life is yours
... Is Till's Part in "Cure" about Ivan?
now I'm really not sure about R2 in this regard (I've seen theories that it may be more about Ivan than it appears but I really haven't made up my mind on whether I agree or disagree), but what I do personally think is that Till's portion of "Cure" in R6 genuinely makes significantly more sense to me, lyrically, if it is -- at least partly -- about Ivan (consciously or subconsciously), than if it is 100% about Mizi and only Mizi from start to end, even though the MV only shows him thinking about Mizi as he sings the part.
let me explain:
Allow me, to the tips of your fingers Allow me, to the ends of your feet Dissolve me in your gaze I don't want to let you go Please, leave me scars Please, hurt me so that Not a single drop of me remains Let me drown in you
... idk, I feel like if this is indeed entirely about Mizi, Till must have made up a lot about their relationship in his mind by that point because it sounds kind of strange to me otherwise. Mainly because while they are sort of friends and have had friendly interactions, it seems that they are not especially close (based on Mizi's words about Till in the artbook), and what Till carries for her is a somewhat distant & idolizing crush sort of thing, which... isn't the sort of energy the lyrics gives?
Like. maybe this is just me, but I can view this portion two ways:
The singer is asking "you", the person being sang about, to hurt him, because he views "you" as someone who would indeed hurt them (e.g. maybe they have hurt him/harmed him/fought with him before; maybe they have a toxic or tumultuous relationship) and/or someone who is in a position where they have a reason/need to hurt him (e.g. going against each other on the Alien Stage); and/or,
The singer is asking "you", the person being sang about, to hurt him, because of his own self-loathing and depressive feelings -- but in this case this just. idk. to me at least, it sounds more like something you are more likely to sing about, like. someone you have been very close to at one point. e.g. a love interest or w/e, who has been in a romantic relationship or situationship or something in an ambiguous relationship with you -- or a closer friend, frenemy or someone like that, that you have complicated or untold feelings about. unless your idolized crush is someone you view as a person who would (hypothetically) hurt you, in which case it falls under 1... except Till's perception of Mizi just kinda doesn't feel that way to me
which. hmmm. idk because like Till's image of Mizi is someone kind, sweet, gentle, soft, comforting and angelic (even with the R5 stuff, we still see this in the way she's like in Till's eyes in Cure's MV), and she's an idol-like figure to him in that sense (and they are not... so 'close' that it feels like he would very naturally sing to her for her to hurt him out of self-flaggellation reasons), it has always been slightly jarring to me that he would sing about her like this, even back when I was sure he was singing about Mizi.
But if you interpret it as being about, or partly about, Ivan instead, then it feels more natural to me; they have a closer relationship, Ivan has hurt him/fought with him and stuff multiple times, and right now they are going against each other on the Alien Stage where the loser among them will be killed.
secondly:
Until these falling stars Are buried in the blur of time On your icy lips Read my soul Yes, my soul, oh, oh
If this is about Mizi: I guess it could be?? if "falling stars" are entirely metaphorical and/or refers to the rain actually... except, even in this case, I feel like it's very possible to interpret it as him subconsciously thinking of such a symbol / such imagery because of Ivan-related reasons.
If this is about Ivan: ...sorry what, "falling stars"? You mean like. a meteor shower?? Okay no yeah, that is literally a major memory he has with Ivan, not with Mizi. And this particular phrasing, "Until these falling stars / Are buried in the blur of time" does further suggest that this is very possibly about a memory that haunts him to this day. which. points to the meteor shower scene more than anything... yeah I honestly feel like this line ties back to Ivan no matter how I think about it.
in any case this is honestly just my opinion and I don't know if I'm right but. just a thought. I think Till might be singing a bit more about Ivan in "Cure" than it seems from a glance at the MV, even if he doesn't realize/acknowledge it himself
Ivan digital art. Not my best work but im happy with it. Someone please find the meaning with the flowers ill giggle and kick my feet /nf /silly (He has arms they're just tucked behind his back 😭)
Why Till HAS to be alive.
hello everyone!! warning this is REALLY long (specifically as you get to the end). i hope you enjoy my in depth theorizing.
The flickering of his picture.
At the end of round 7, his picture lingers and flickers after Luka moves up the ranks. In all the previous rounds, the loser’s picture faded out before the winner moved up. People are saying this is a reach but I believe this is the most obvious hint. Vivinos’ details are always intentional and significant.
His earpiece falling out.
His earpiece falls out after he gets shot. We are shown that these earpieces detect the wearer’s heartbeat. They couldn’t detect his heartbeat disappearing because it fell out. Due to his picture lingering and then flickering, I assume the flickering was as his earpiece fell out.
When you think about it, why else would they show us this teaser image? This teaser pushed it into our faces that the earpieces are heart monitors. I think it’d be a little too coincidental that till’s earpiece fell out after this.
How he was shot.
The gunshots came from the audience. Meaning that where Till got shot, it didn’t go through his neck, and only grazed it.
This injury isn’t as fatal as Ivan’s and Sua’s. He also didn’t bleed out as he got shot, while Ivan and Sua bled out all over the floor.
This shows that his injury wasn’t bad enough to be fatal. He’s definitely severely hurt, as he coughed up blood, but he’s salvageable.
The way his body is lying.
Till’s arm went limp, yet his leg was still staying up. If you’re dead, you physically cannot support any part of your body. His leg would’ve fallen. I believe he DID pass out, though. I see people saying he’s pretending, and honestly I don’t believe he’s in the right headspace to think of faking he’s death. He’s tired, exhausted, he was clearly stressed throughout the round.
The fact that he’s still able to support his leg up shows that blood is still actively flowing through him. If he were dead, it’d be pretty much physically impossible for his leg to stay propped up, as blood would’ve stopped flowing.
Also the way he’s positioned to the audience, his leg is covering up where aliens would be able to see the injury, same with Mizi’s arm. This is definitely more of a stretch, just a detail I noticed
His All-In cover art.
In his cover, he has red tape over his neck. I think this is too significant and OUT as a detail to not mean anything. Although it’s on the opposite side of where he actually got shot, bandaging his neck in general seems too big of a detail. None of the other characters had a detail like this in their cover arts.
It could be said that he has the tape due to being a rebel, which made sense before Round 7. But if we used this logic, wouldn’t Hyuna have some significant detail in her cover art?
We also know that red equals rebellion in Alien Stage. It signifies fighting back. As I said before, this COULD be said because he’s a rebel, but I think he’d be fighting back despite his injury. It wasn’t a fatal wound.
His character is unfinished.
His death doesn’t make sense compared to the other characters that died. Ivan’s death was easier to accept because we knew his motives, his story. For the entirety of Alien Stage, he was the narrator in his and Till’s story. There wasn’t any mystery surrounding his character, so it made sense to kill him. Sua’s death was easier to accept because her death did something for the narrative, as her death started this chain of events and continued to haunt the narrative. We also eventually learned her true motives.
But Till’s death? It does nothing. You could say his death is to build Mizi’s character, but I think it’d make more sense if he LIVED for Mizi’s character. Her motivations would change, it’d be easier to move on from events if she had someone with shared trauma with her. In general, Till’s death makes no sense compared to the other deaths. He didn’t have any motivations at this point besides living. Sua and Ivan’s goals were fulfilled, which was protecting their loved ones. But Till’s wasn’t. His death is significantly different from the other dead contestants.
His story is also just.. not done at all. He was just beginning to develop as a character. Mizi grew after Sua’s death, her character developed significantly. Till didn’t develop as a character after Mizi’s disappearance, and he didn’t have the chance to develop after Ivan’s death, even though it was significant to him. We also got literally NOTHING from his POV besides around 2, which was just him adoring Mizi and a little peek at the abuse he’s endured. Also his death is just a waste in general—I don’t believe they’d tell his story AFTER he died. It just makes no sense to kill off his character after questions were just being raised.
How the creators are treating his ‘death’.
The way that Vivimeng are treating his ‘death’ feels so especially different to me. Ivan’s art after his death was a bittersweet art, and he was resting. he was okay with his death, and we were forced to accept that reality. Plus the "thank you for being the victim of my shallow emotions" comic. That concluded his story, we learned his motives and it was easier to accept he died after. But Till? We never got his POV on anything. We never got his final thoughts like we did Ivan and Sua. Till’s story was never told through his OWN eyes. Vivimeng are GATEKEEPING till's perspective like their life depends on it. My theory as to why? His character isn't over. His life isn't over, there's so much missing about him and the dots aren't connecting in the same way they have for the previous deaths
Till’s comic and art were happy. Bittersweet pieces. You knew there was a tinge of sadness, yet I can't help but feel these last till arts are pushing hope onto us. Ivan and Sua’s comics ended with their deaths, Till’s ended with 4nakt all together. it brings the theme of hope. Of love prevailing. I feel we can't look over the fact that Till’s comic is so vastly different than the others.
I should also note that they are going out of their way to hide details of his neck in all official arts after Round 7. He’ll have his branding hidden, or just straight up gone. Also in the recent official art of him, Ivan and Sua, his art is significantly different. He’s the only one facing away from us, the blood on him not visible, and his injury is also facing away from us. There’s a lack of branding on him as well. I feel this is the most obvious piece we’ve gotten signifying that he’s going to be alive, they’re deliberately hiding any way for us to see the aftermath of his injury. Unlike with Ivan and Sua, where they made their aftermath very obvious. (I would add images but I reached the image limit. Crying.)
TLDR, there’s too many details.
Vivinos excels too much at writing to fail his character like this. To kill him off as his story just started. I believe him finally being able to tell his own story instead of having others tell it for him will symbolize him breaking free. Breaking free from the restraints. From his status as a prisoner. I think this experience will further him as a character, and not truly end him.