Nah It Was Huomenna By Uniklubi

nah it was huomenna by uniklubi

When I am listening to songs in Finnish or whatever, I often get stuck up on translating some of the words to english. Not like in an "I cant think of a translation" kind of way, but in an "I wonder how translating this like that would affect the flow of the song" kind of way.

Anyways, today I was listening to a song that had the words "olen surullinen", or "I am sad" in English. I noted how the Finnish version is much longer than the English one, that "sad" translates to "surullinen", a much longer word.

Then I that rabbit hole of a thought went a bit further, and I realized that the the Finnish word for "sadness" is much shorter, "suru", even though it is longer in English.

A nice enough thought on its own, but the hole goes deeper. I went on to think about why this is, and realized that in English, the adjective "sad" is the base form from which the language derives the other forms. In Finnish though, the base form is "sadness", which basically is the essence of being sad, the noun, from which the language gets the other words. And from this perspective of having the noun be the base form, being sad could be interpeted as having the essence of being sad. Thats what the "-llinen" ending in "surullinen" (the adjective, the feeling) means, having something or similar.

Not really sure if there is a point to any of this, just reflecting on how different languages "think" and also discovering a part of why translating songs between English and Finnish is so hard.

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The first fictional book in the Finnish language was not an epic adventure nor a grand drama, but a tale of seven countryboy brothers fumbling around, getting drunk, misbehaving, leaving chores undone, almost getting themselves killed, and still making it through life.

idk y'all, i feel like there's just something very finnish about the melancholic hopelessness and tragic nature of life, the fleeting summers and harsh winters, celebration songs composed in a minor key, blue and white, lakes and summer sky and snow, the inherent unfairness of existence, the forever feeling of not belonging, the chronic avoidance of any stranger while also propping lost gloves onto street signs in the hope that they may return to their owners, the silence of 3am, the "silence" of an untouched forest, the old wisdoms and folk songs

it's almost as if the entire culture was built on mourning as a form of perseverance, the importance of sitting in silence every now and then, and the concept of love thy neighbour that existed way before the bound bible found it's way to the finnish wildlands


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1 month ago

Like once I was discussing religion with a friend (like in a nice and interesting way, not accusatory), and they asked me wether there would be people in my utopia that believed in religions. They said theirs probably would, similar to how they'd allow differing political beliefs too. My answer was that everyone would most likely be atheists by default, as religion wouldn't really be a variable I'd think about when making a utopia.

Political views, however, are different in my opinion. Personally I consider differing political views (and healthy interaction between them) a necessity for society to improve, making them necessary for reaching said utopia. I personally dont believe religions to also be essential for that.

This being the internet, I probably should clarify that I dont mind people believing in stuff either, and religion wouldnt necessarily make my utopia worse either.

There's something about atheism that I've repeatedly tried and failed to put into words on several posts on this blog but I think I finally got it.

Atheists are the only religious minority who, even (or sometimes even *especially*) in ostensibly progressive spaces are not allowed to ever act like they're sure of their beliefs.


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2 months ago

Move to the Ivory Coast, start a cocoa farmers' union, help them fight for better workers' rights and better pay. This raises the price of your chocolate cereals, making them harder to get.

For an increased effect, repeat in Ghana.

Hey does anyone have suggestions on how do I make myself stop eating my own weight's worth of chocolate cereal every single day. Entertaining both good and bad ideas. Not having it in the house is not an option. Rendering the cereal inedible or unpalatable in any way is not an option.

3 months ago

4) from what I've learned from all the queer spaces I've been in, the boxes dont actually exist and the best spaces are the ones that dont put you into a box, and you kind of forget that the boxes exist in the first place. Straight is just another sexuality, and a queer space that doesnt make a divide between cishet and queer people feels usually the most comfortable. Just people facing each other as people, not as members of a gender or a sexuality.

Now that I read this again it doesnt actually read like an added point to this list, more just me dumping my thoughts. I kinda like it that way.

I'm kind of at a point where the "queer spaces" i feel safest in are the ones that have a pet cishet dude or two hanging around


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2 months ago

currently analyzing way too intensely that one meme video from like over a decade ago that goes

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haa

ha ha

ha ha ha ha ha

ha ha

yee


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4 months ago

I woke up with a cold the next day

To me, one of the core finland experiences is walking a long ass distance in the dead of night in freezing temperatures, on a quest to find the nearest bus stop that actually runs this late.

Just did that (still like 40 minutes away from home, but in the relatively warm bus now (bus also an integral part of the experience)) and I haven't felt more finnish in a while.

2 months ago

I'm gonna add to this with some additions that are missing currently.

Haloo Helsinki is like the peak of finnish pop-rock currently. They have an amazing catalogue of complete bangers, that I feel have quite rich language as well.

PMMP is one of the most iconic finnish pop bands ever. They sold out multiple arenas after not making music or touring for a decade. Incredibly high quality music with really deep lyricism. They also sing really clearly most of the time so it should be pretty good for learning the language.

Gonna also give a mention to Happoradio, CMX, and Apulanta, which are all great finnish rock bands.

Do you have any good Finnish song recommendations? I'm wanting to learn Finnish and listening to songs in a language helps me learn faster. Love your blog by the way

Terve! Kiva, että pidät blogista. :)

Thinking of just lyrics, I think Zen Café, Happoradio, Arttu Wiskari, and Johanna Kurkela have some pretty interesting ones. Leevi and the Leavings from the previous ask, too. Juice Leskinen, Irwin Goodman.

Honestly, it also depends on what kind of music you like.

Perhaps my followers could share some of their favourite Finnish language music? I honestly know nothing about today's popular music in Finland.

For a learner, I would advise focusing on lyrics in kirjakieli (grammatically correct standard Finnish) or yleiskieli (spoken Finnish close to kirjakieli) rather than anything in obvious puhekieli (spoken Finnish dialects which can be pretty different from standard Finnish).


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3 months ago

kiitos tästä meen nyt nukkumaan

Koitan motivoida itteni menee nukkumaa ni tein tämmösen (sen sijaa et oisin menny nukkumaa)

Koitan Motivoida Itteni Menee Nukkumaa Ni Tein Tämmösen (sen Sijaa Et Oisin Menny Nukkumaa)

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3 months ago

And to this day I still read it as I shit the gay, and it takes conscious effort to think of it as anything else

Before I knew what istg actually meant, I tried to decipher it by using the first words that I came up with that fit the thing.

What I came up with:

I shit the gay


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