This post is gonna get serious. I wanna talk about Tony's death in the MCU and how I was affect by it and my past.
Trigger warning: I'm gonna be talking about PTSD, death, depression, and overall a lot of heavy stuff. If this stuff bothers you, you should skip this post. I have plenty other posts that are more for humor or fanfiction.
Tony's death.
This rocked me to my core. I cried when he spoke his last words and how he ended his arc the way he did. I cried cause the character who brought me into the MCU had left it after all this time. I had cried for the character who had become so important to me, only to cry all over again when Steve decided to leave too. Both goodbyes that were from important parts of my Marvel experience were gone like that.
It was a perfect, tragic, ending for both characters. The pain and loss, to the end of their arcs showing how much they changed.
The thing is though, seeing Tony's death, and Steve's choice to leave, had me mentally and emotionally shut down the first time I watched those scenes. I had been lost unconsciously to the past, back to the moment that still haunts me today.
I have PTSD. And my trauma came from my grandfather passing away when I was four. It was traumatic, loud, messy, and lots of crying from my mother. The only person I had to call 'dad' was simply gone in mere seconds.
He past away in my mother's arms, and from the way my mom can remember he was also coughing blood. His lung cancer finally caught up to him.
When children are exposed to stimulation it is already so much for them, every experience being many things: an inconvenience being the end of the world, a new little fact being a huge joy, every experience is learning how the world is. But in terms of trauma? It's greater damage to the mind as a kid compared to an adult.
I had watched my grandfather pass away, got stuck in the loud chaos, and had been unable to process what just happened. I only knew that he wasn't coming back, and that answer only left me empty.
After this moment things changed a lot for me. It was made worst when my mother had to hospitalized for three days sometime after this event. This was another thing that had sent me into a deep form of hurt. I cried hard at my mother's disappearance. I thought I was being abandoned, left alone in a world I still can't understand today.
I had lost a parental figure in my life, thought I was being abandoned sometime later, and was unable to process anything. I only knew the facts, I couldn't do anything beyond that. Any emotions I should have been feeling wasn't there. I didn't feel anything. It was like I didn't know how anymore, I only could feel apathetic. Like I was shunning away the moment.
It was the start of my mental decline.
Tony became an important character for me as he was the hero who felt real, one I could find myself in the same sort of spot with regarding pain.
Every time I see a character I've grown so attached to die, I remember the first time it ever happened. Then I dissociate to cope with the trauma, emotions disappearing into numbness, and I can't watch anymore.
The pain of watching real tragic deaths or of fiction that I've come so attached to, it sends me into a twisted mess. It also happens with goodbyes. Seeing someone or something for the last time, never seeing them again, also sends me back. The feelings of loss and abandonment causing me to push things or people away.
When Tony died on screen I had been left numb, I had left the theater wanting nothing more than to curled up in a ball on my bed and sleep. Forgetting about the moment I watched him die.
I wouldn't get to fully process my trauma till this year. I wouldn't get to the moment of processing till now.
Tony's death, Steve leaving, and the pain left behind was too much for me to handle. Now though I can say that it was tragic but also a beautiful end to their respective arcs. I can't watch certain parts of the movies again for reasons, but I'm able to watch the movies again as I'm now moving forward. I can watch knowing that this time I can finally watch the series and accept each goodbye that happens. I can allow myself to process the emotions I feel freely, letting them come and simply be.
I write this post as a form of my own little therapy. A way of sharing my story to those who might need it and those who need to hear this:
You are not alone in your grief. You are not alone in your pain. Pain comes to everyone and it varies on the person how they respond to that pain. Depression, anxiety, PTSD, these are common disabilities that are found in a large percentage of people. I used to think nobody would understand, but overtime I realized that pain is universal.
When I began to heal I learned that it's okay to be vulnerable, to be weak. To allow yourself the chance to express the emotions held inside out. Feeling those emotions freely is what helped me move forward, but it may be different for you.
What Marvel has helped me to do is learn that it's okay to be human. We are a mess, but we learn together how to be better. Not everyone is nice, not everyone is mean. We are simply people. As we heal from trauma we see those around us differently, unable to go back to the mindset in the past. We can also see those who have similar mindsets to are own.
In conclusion: Tony's death hurt me and pushed hard at an old scar. The pain came and I allowed it to be. I learned to move forward, and learned from Marvel that all you can do is move forward. Tony's death had left the universe safe, Steve leaves behind a legacy and passed down his shield to Falcon. And I learn to come to terms of what happened years ago now.
I wanted to share this in hopes of those who need it see it. And I hope maybe that you, the person reading, have taken something from this post. A person who understands or possibly a new perspective on something.
I hope that you remember that you deserve to be loved, that you are not alone in pain or grief, and that you are amazing.
✨ Marvel Prompt ✨
Clint: I don't see what the problem is, Tony.
Tony: *Deadpan stare* Oh I don't know... how about you holding my hand, refusing to let go?
(Tony holds up the hand Clint is holding captive. Which also happens to appear to have handcuffs on their wrists, a long chain between them.)
Clint: *Smirking* Look, all Cap said was to babysit you and make absolutely sure you didn't do something you're not suppose to. He didn't say how to do it. Besides, look at it this way: you are handcuff to a hot guy who is holding your hand willingly. I think that is a great deal, don't you?
Tony: *facepalms* No, Clint. Not a deal. You may be a good piece of eye candy, but I would rather not be handcuffed to my babysitter. And I also didn't consent to the hand holding. *Takes his hand back.*
(Clint pouts, wanting to hold Tony's hand again, then decides to do something better. He grabs Tony by the waist and pulls him down into his lap, causing Tony to yelp.)
Tony: *startled* What the heck, Barton!?
Clint: *sad puppy voice* I'm not Clint anymore to you?
Tony: *irritated but feeling guilty* Clint, what are you doing now?
Clint: *happy* well since you didn't want to hold hands, I thought we could cuddle! *Holds tighter, voice turning hesitant* We can cuddle right?
(Tony couldn't say no to Clint, not with that shakiness in his voice. The hesitant and insecurities poking through. He knew he was a sucker.)
Tony: *sighs* Okay, fine, I'll cuddle you. But can you at least take of the handcuffs and walk me to my floor? Id rather be comfortable when cuddling than-
Clint: *Happy and excited* You got a deal, Tony, to cuddle!
(Clint carries out Tony, intent on watching him still. Though his mind was more on the cuddles than anything else. Tony gave in and decided maybe taking a break today wouldn't be so bad.)
Tony: Yeah, Clint, let's cuddle buddy. *Smiles softly*
This is just perfection, nothing else to say
How about Bodyguard AU and Mutual Pining with Ironhawk? :)
“I don’t need a bodyguard,” Tony says for the millionth time.
“Yes you fuckin’ do,” Clint says, also for the millionth time. He crosses his arms and glares at Tony. “People want to kill you, and Pepper needs that not to happen. I happen to agree with her.”
“Well, then I need a different bodyguard!” Tony says, pouting. “Why can’t I have Happy back?”
“You asked for a new bodyguard when Happy tackled you and broke your old couch,” Clint says. Hearing that Tony wants a new bodyguard hurts a little, if he’s honest. He thought they were getting along pretty well. Maybe Tony realized that Clint has a massive, could-be-seen-from-space crush on him?
“I liked that couch,” Tony says, pouting harder. “Do I have my new one yet?”
“It arrived yesterday,” Clint says patiently, well used to how Tony seemingly switches tracks out of nowhere. “You said it was squishy enough and that you liked it.”
Tony shrugs. “Sure. I trust you. But I still want a new bodyguard.”
“Could you at least tell me why?” Clint asks. “If there’s somethin’ I’ve done, Tones, just tell me.”
Tony shakes his head, his lips a thin line on his face. “It’s just…” He trails off, then waves a hand at Clint. “All of you. Your whole cornfed, aw shucks, good guy thing.”
“You don’t like that I’m a good guy?” Clint asks. “I don’t understand.”
Tony sighs. “It’s unethical to want to fuck your bodyguard. It’s even worse when you want to keep him around afterwards for snuggles.”
Clint blinks. “I quit,” he says suddenly. “I quit so hard.”
Now it’s Tony’s turn to blink. “You… what?”
“I have a crush on you that could be seen from space,” Clint says. “If it’s unethical to want to fuck your bodyguard, then it’s definitely unethical to want to fuck your boss.”
A slow smile spreads across Tony’s face as he wraps a hand in Clint’s tie. “I accept your resignation,” he murmurs, pulling Clint down into a kiss.
Hello everyone!
This post is gonna be different from the usual marvel prompts, and questions, I post. This time I want to give my perspective and opinion on my favorite character, Loki. He is a fascinating character, full of complexities and fundamentally 'human' in a way.
I wanted to share my thoughts, feelings, and ideas here to basically have a place to discuss different characters and how they are meaningful to us.
Without further ado...
Loki is a character that gives off so many emotions when you first see him, and varies on when you see him and what media: evil and vengeful in EMH, Cocky yet willing to change in AA, Calculating and then sporadic in the MCU. Comic Loki? A whole lot of character development that I don't even know where to start.
Admittedly I have had the chance to read much of the comics sides a few, and haven't watch all of AA or EMH, but I did research for this. Also I just watched a lot of stuff on YouTube of Loki from all sides.
Now when it comes to his character, you can't exactly put down a few words to describe him. Loki is a character that feels like a person, complex and confusing. Trying to simplify Loki is unintentionally blocking out the other aspects of him.
Loki is a character that has been abused and abandoned from basically the beginning of his life. Left to die by his biological father, taken in by a new family and then raised to hate his kind essentially, then told later that he was going to be a bargaining chip, fighting his brother as a form of lashing out, being done enough with all of it to try and end his life, to being found and potentially tortured by Thanos.
That alone comes from the MCU, but a majority of that still happens in the other timelines. It's explained through hints and out right underlined that Loki was neglected emotionally and physically by his father, put into Thor's shadow, and put down for being different in the ways of Asgard- using magic rather than tactical fighting.
Loki grows envious and resentful because of this. It makes things worse when it becomes clear that Loki was also put through a lot of pain. Like having his mouth sewn shut and a mythical snake dripping venom on to you. What Thanos probably did...
To me, Loki is a traumatized person. From day one he was abandoned and left to die, only to be taken in and strip of any agency on who he would be. Everyone, including Thor, either pushed the villainous label onto Loki or harassed him for not being a true warrior.
Loki has been shoved in the back, pushed away, and told he isn't as great or ever will be as Thor. Leaving him probably lonely, hurt, angry, and envious: 'What does Thor have, that I don't?'
Loki's complexities come in when you further understand that he does want to be the hero, he wants to do good- he just doesn't understand how. He is constantly tempted by mischief that it poses an obstacle to Loki making the decision to pick an outcome. This is added on to the fact that eventually he gives up and choice at all, taking up the villain roll as the only choice he perceived he had left.
When you're constantly told something, eventually you'll think it's true. Loki gives up and lets the pain swallow him into a world of consistent anger and envy.
So what do I feel about Loki? He is a person repeatedly hurt by others, left behind, and is indifferent to or active to end his life.
But he does get a chance to change. Slowly as he starts to heal he becomes more open, playful, caring. He even finds himself having a better relationship with Thor, having his family back. He even befriends and joins the avengers. In one comic he surprised Clint be being his valentine.
I love Loki, as a character and his story. No matter what media you choose, Loki's story has the power to move you. He is the most human character I've seen that rivals Tony.
Loki helps me too, by being a character who I can relate to with painful memories of my own. Feelings of abandonment and envy of others, not understanding why I was treated differently compared to others.
I don't feel comfortable sharing much of my past here, but just Know that my experiences aren't that intense as Loki's.
To conclude this post: Loki is fascinating in the fact that he contains the element of being a human character (despite being alien), being shown in the story his anger, pain, despair, the fear he can feel, his loneliness. We can feel the change within Loki overtime as well: feeling how happy he is, how much safer he feels, and how much vulnerability he is able to allow himself now.
Loki is my all time favorite mischief maker, god of chaos, and just my favorite character I love to watch create a hilarious mess.
💜 Marvel Prompt ❤️
"Why can't you see you matter?"
(Clint walks along the hall, heading to a specific room, though his mind lost.)
Clint: *internally* How bad is it that Tony is hiding from us? What could knock him down that far, to push us away? I just want my friend back, man. I miss my buddy.
(Tony had been distant as of lately. Something had happened when he went to a meeting with some officials to discuss important business and affairs. He came back guarded, cautious, and overall just blocked up emotionally. He didn't say anything about the meeting with the officials, nor did he talk about what was wrong. It bothered everyone. It especially bothered Clint.)
Clint: *Stands in front of Tony's bedroom* Tony? Are you okay, I'm worried man...
(It was silent)
Clint: *Hesitant* ...Tony?
(It was silent)
Clint: *Knocks on the door* Tony, are you even in there?
(It was silent)
(Clint on his last nerve, ready to ask JARVIS where Tony is, tries the door handle. It was unlocked.)
Clint: *Surprised* ...huh. Well that's convenient.
(Walking inside Tony's room it was clear that he was in here, tablets with different projects were strewn about the place, Clint could also here something creaking. Following the noise had Clint find Tony in bed. He looked tired, in more ways than one.)
Clint: *Gently sits down* Tony... are you okay? You've been down since you came back and everyone is a mess about it. I am even worried. I want to make stuff with you again, have are banter and sarcasm back. I...
(Clint wanted Tony back. He wanted him happy again, full of life, creating and pushing technology to new limits. Clint wanted Tony to be okay. He wanted him back beside him again, not away and cold to him.)
Tony: *glances at Clint* ...I'm fine. Just having a rough patch, I'll be up and at again soon enough.
(Clint knew it was a lie.)
Clint: *Firmly* Tony, what is really the matter? Since you came back, something has been on your mind and eating away at you for the last few days. You are clearly not fine.
(Tony didn't say anything for a few moments. He looked as if he was thinking about his next few words or possibly about what he wanted to say about the problem.)
Tony: *Quietly* I... I was reminded of a bad time. During- He... I..
(Tony was struggling on his next words, but Clint was patient. He held Tony's hand unconsciously and gave a gentle squeeze.)
Tony: *little whine* I had been talking with a guy from the military, a sergeant I think? H-he, I was talking about something- maybe the issues they had containing some of the villains? The guy kinda started arguing with me... It ended with words that brought up bad memories, and stuff people used to tell me that I tried to forget about.
(Clint was calm for Tony the entire time. Inside he was burning, rabid with the need to seek justice for Tony. To hurt the man who hurt his precious treasure, his teams leader. Clint wanted to leave a statement to all who dare try again.)
Clint: *Calmly* Is that why you decided to hide away?
Tony: *Nods*
Clint: *sighs* Welp, that won't do Tony. You need space, I get it, but this is beyond healthy at this point. We are going to get some fresh air in the common room. Up we go!
(Clint picks up Tony bridal style, earning him a squeak from Tony.)
Tony: *embarrassed* I can walk, Clint!
Clint: *flirty* Yeah, but this way I can carry a beautiful and smart genius! Can't have you exsert yourself after the rough day you had. Let your loyal archer carry you! *Winks*
(Tony is blushing bright red by the time they reach the common room. Everyone is there and clearly waiting for the both of them. JARVIS must have call them all.)
Thor: *Happy and relieved* Tony! It is nice to see you out and about again.
Steve: *Concerned* It is nice to see you again, but are you alright?
Hulk: *grunts and walks over to pat Tony's head* Metal man no longer hiding away. Good.
Natasha: *smiles softly but remain quiet*
(Clint sits himself down on the couch, Tony being held hostage in his lap. No amount of squirming would get Clint to let go of him. Tony gave up after twenty seconds, accepting his fate and tucking his head into Clint's shoulder.)
Clint: *Content* Tony allowed me to bring his gorgeous butt out of his room, though it's up to Tony if he wants to tell you anything.
Tony: *Flustered* You can tell them Clint. Also I'm not all that...
Clint: Yes you are Tony, your personality and perfect adorable looks are why I fell in love with you.
(Clint froze at that, wishing his brain had a filter or at least common sense to think first before blurting things out. Tony blue screened at the confession. Clint quickly changed the subject to explain what had caused Tony to push away from them, growing angry again at the knowledge again. The team also looked furious. Natasha left the room. That sergeant most likely won't be the one okay soon enough. The others that remained gave Tony the comfort he clearly needed.)
(When Tony and Clint were left alone, the others leaving to grab snacks for movie time, Tony decided to ask the question he was desperate for an answer to.)
Tony: *whispering* Did you mean it?
Clint: *Hesitant and scared* Yeah, yeah I did mean it Tony. Everything about you is why I really like you. You matter to us, Tony. You matter so much to me...
(Without giving himself a chance to back out, Clint grabbed Tony's chin and made him look at him. Clint placed a soft kiss on Tony's lips. Pulling back Clint saw Tony looking at him in surprise, blushing different shades of red. Then Tony pressed a kiss to his cheek.)
Tony: I like you too. I didn't think anyone would like me like that, but I'm glad it's you.
Clint: *snorted* Well it isn't just me who loves you that way.
Tony: *jerks up* Wait what!?
Clint: N-Nothing!
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I've been wanting to write this for a little while, but I wanted to do some rewatching and research on the topic again.
This is my view on the topic of who was right, and who was wrong.
My answer? They were both right.
Let me explain:
Tony, after all the damage done that leads to this conflict, wants and does sign the accords. He wants the Avengers to be held accountable for the damages they cause and to have some restrictions so supers can't do anything they want willy nilly. He has the point here. People need rules and structure to avoid anarchy and chaos, to avoid things just ending up a mess.
Steve didn't want to sign the accords because his point was that the avengers couldn't be held down waiting for the green light, not when lives were at stake. His argument is made further when you take in the question of: 'who could actually hold this power?' Hydra invaded SHEILD, the government isn't safe either, and lord knows how corrupt politics are anyway. Hell, after Thanos snapped the government had to go make a consensus. Nobody could hold the avengers when lives were on the line.
Steve and Tony are both right. But they end up also being wrong too.
Tony is blinded by his overwhelming guilt at this point. After all he lost, the new trauma, and dealing with everything, Tony is hyper focused on redemption here. He wants to make up for the things he did, for the people lost in the cross fire. But he ends up not seeing the issues presented to him about signing the accords.
Signing the accords is a problem because, like I talked about with Steve's point, no one can simply have a leash on the heros. If they have to wait then people die, if they are leashed then Hydra would have been pulling the strings. Hydra invaded SHEILD and the government, if they pulled the strings then it's over. Not to mention that the person pushing the accords is General Ross, the man who hunted down Bruce to use him- to make the super soldier serum. General Ross is not an ally, he is a threat.
Steve was also wrong too. Avengers can't have full freedom to do whatever they please. Having powers being used recklessly and causing unnecessary damages to surroundings isn't a good thing. It's a risk to the people he wants to protect.
So Both are right and wrong. Mainly cause this conflict is complex, when you see the risks and factors of why things couldn't work one way or the other. But also remember, this is a conflict created by design too. Zemo had a part to play in this issue. Playing the game just right that would cause the leaders of the avengers to reach a boiling point on the argument that they split.
What I personally feel is that because of the trauma, pain, and exhaustion the two of them were dealing with when the accords were just presented that they were even in a good healthy mindset to even begin dealing with any of it. Both were stressed, dealing with issues on all sides, and couldn't see past the black and white view of absolutes. Steve and Tony were stuck on a chest board as pawns and both were fighting to win. Only we know how this ends up going.
I am Team Captain America AND Team Iron Man.
Cause in the end they are still a team, and I don't pick sides of my team- I choose all of them.
As an added part to this post I wanted to share my thoughts on Steve lying to Tony about his parents. It was wrong and unjustified, yes but I'm not talking about that. That is a simple fact. I want to explain my view on Steve's reasoning for this decision: He wanted to protect both friends of his. He wanted to protect Bucky cause he was brainwashed and innocent, he didn't want him hurt or kill for it. He wanted to protect Tony cause already he was traumatized, beaten, and utterly exhausted from so much happening. He didn't want Tony to have another thing on his mind that could potentially cause him to snap a part.
In the end it didn't matter, Tony finds out and everything falls from there. Steve here, from my pov, is the people who have the purest intentions and want the best for us, but end up making decisions that only harm us in the end unintentionally. When we make choice that we think help, but don't.
In conclusion: Do I think one or the other is wrong? No, both are right and wrong for their own reasons- making the answer a more complicated discussion.
Do I think Steve or Tony deserves the bashing they get from either side of the conflict? No. They are fundamentally human characters who wanted to do the right thing but were blinded by their own issues and too twisted and turned to properly communicate things.
Should either one be hated for these choices they made? No. They made the choice they did but in the end worked to fix what had been ripped apart, doing their best to mend that scar. They were adults about it and made up while finally having a more healthier mental state to deal with everything.
Are both still my favorite characters and ship? Fuck yes.
For got to add tags 😅
Angst
'Consuming all the air inside my lungs. Ripping all the skin off my bones, I'm prepared to sacrifice my life. I would gladly do it twice.' "Tony is ready to sacrifice himself to save the people he swore to protect and the people he cares for. A certain Hawk isn't going to let him go however."
'I love you, but I can't find my words.' "Both Tony and Clint like each other deeply, however, it is just that they don't know how to say or show it. The miscommunication leads to them confusing or offending the other. Only words written can express what is meant to be said."
Hurt/Comfort
'Only love can hurt like this.' "Tony asks Clint out for date only to be rejected. Clint thought it was a prank, a joke for jest, but learns from Natasha that Tony really does like him. Clint returns with an apology, genuine feels, and a bouquet of roses."
'If you love them, let them go.' "Clint gets hurt in battle after Tony fails to save him from being defenestrate. Tony leaves with a note left behind, it saying he lets Clint go from the relationship and an apology. Clint wakes up and chases Tony down, unwilling to let Tony go due to being deeply in love with him.
Fluff
'A simple mistake can sometimes be a good thing' "Clint ends up being cursed with cat ears and a tail, gaining some animalistic traits as well. He is moody and irritated to everyone, but is clingy and loving to only Tony. Clint really likes Tony."
'Sometimes I just want a hug... Sometimes I want to cuddle.' "Tony has been working for days straight, dealing with wannabe villains, and having to sort out several issues with different divisions in his company. He wants to sleep, but mostly craves a hug at this point. Clint decides to give Tony a full cuddle session, kidnapping him to his bedroom for comfort and sleep."
18+
'You look good when I carry you, but holding you against your desk... That's bliss.' "Clint loves to carry Tony bridal style often, taking the title 'knight in shining armor.' But he also likes to pin Tony up against the wall or his desk, gently caressing his body, and showing how much he loves Tony."
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