Plural System - Blog Posts

Racism in the plural community is a real problem. Racism in the medical community is a real, dangerous problem.

Pour one out for DID/OSDD systems of color that go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed because the psychiatric institution dismisses them.

Pour one out for all systems of color who feel isolated because the online community often conflates plurality with whiteness.

Pour one out for systems of color who get called racist or appropriative because their systems incorporate aspects of their own culture, but people automatically assume they must be white.

Pour one out for systems of color whose voices are silenced because of their ethnicity.

Uplift non-white systems. Talk to non-white systems, not over them.

Gonna talk more about this.

For this post, we/us/our/etc. is being used for just the Shay Subpack unless otherwise stated.

We are all different "sides" or "facets" or "parts" of Shay, which is different from the rest of the pack.

They are separate from us in a way that's different. They are their own beings through and through. We aren't.

We are mainly just different lives that Shay has lived. Though there are some things that are slightly different between us. For example, Zuki is definitely cupioromantic, while both Cyan & Akay definitely aren't (and Shay [this life's version] is totally confused on their romanticity & sexuality). But overall, we are mainly just different "parts" of Shay.

We don't quite know if this makes us median or not, and maybe it's not that important to know, but we still would love to hear what others think.

Edit: [Also, we are pretty sure all of us had Shay in our names (middle name) in all of our lives, so there's that, lol. It's how Shay came up with using that online from having Shay as a middle name as Zuki]

- Shay Subpack 🐾🪶🩵🖌

We'd love to hear more about median plurals.

Cause we are kinda wondering if we (Shay subpack) are a median subpack cause we are technically all parts of Shay.

We are different from our other packmates. They are distinct. They are their own beings in a way that we in the Shay subpack aren't.

We'd just love to hear more about median plurals and their experiences.

- Shay Subpack 🐾🪶🩵🖌

We'd love to hear more about median plurals.

Cause we are kinda wondering if we (Shay subpack) are a median subpack cause we are technically all parts of Shay.

We are different from our other packmates. They are distinct. They are their own beings in a way that we in the Shay subpack aren't.

We'd just love to hear more about median plurals and their experiences.

- Shay Subpack 🐾🪶🩵🖌

We are gonna just call us (Shay & "kins") a subpack. If we end up being technically "wrong" with that term, then oh well.

- Shay 🐾

We have a question for plural beings.

How do you know if you are a subsystem/part of a subsystem?

We are now kinda questioning if "me" (Shay and "my" kins) are technically a subpack (we use pack instead of system).

We/I get uncomfortable at times saying I/me/my/etc when it should fit (example; my wings) and would much rather say we/us/our/etc at those times. But then there are also times when we/I seem to have no real problem with I/me/my/etc.

Even if we figure out that we are a subpack in our pack, we would still probably just refer to the "kins" as just that cause fictive feels weird for them?

Honestly, we are just pretty confused, lol.

Like "my kins" feel like "me" more than my/our other packmates, but idk.

- Shay 🐾

We have a question for plural beings.

How do you know if you are a subsystem/part of a subsystem?

We are now kinda questioning if "me" (Shay and "my" kins) are technically a subpack (we use pack instead of system).

We/I get uncomfortable at times saying I/me/my/etc when it should fit (example; my wings) and would much rather say we/us/our/etc at those times. But then there are also times when we/I seem to have no real problem with I/me/my/etc.

Even if we figure out that we are a subpack in our pack, we would still probably just refer to the "kins" as just that cause fictive feels weird for them?

Honestly, we are just pretty confused, lol.

Like "my kins" feel like "me" more than my/our other packmates, but idk.

- Shay 🐾

Gonna just explain more.

Our back is more sensitive, especially to pain, and I (the host) almost always have my phantom wings. Sometimes, it's more prominent than others.

- Shay (They/it) | The host

a poll for the wing-havers

for me, my back has always felt much more sensitive than the rest of my body, to the point of feeling uncomfortable being touched there. sometimes when people touch my back i jump as a reflex, but not if they touch the rest of my body. i wanted to know if this is a common experience in wingedkin, so please answer the poll to satiate my neverending hunger for knowledge :}

The college Maker Space place opened up again [it was closed cause the guy running it got married or something]. We made 2 new buttons/pins!!!!

Love these new pins/buttons!!! If you can't tell what they say, we put alt text on them.

- Shay (They/it) :3c

https://multiplicity.fandom.com/wiki/Category:System_origins

Looked at this to learn about plural origins.

These feel like the best terms for our origin right now.

So we will be using these terms, probably mostly unknown.

- Shay (They/it) | Host & someone else no idea who rn (they/it)

Changed profile picture to what used to be the banner thing.

Changed banner thing to the novigender flag mixed with the genderqueer flag (cause both are what I use for my gender [I/my used to refer to Shay, the host]).

- Shay (They/it)

Absolutely!!!

We actually growl a lot, not always on purpose, it's just instinct!

- Shay (They/it)

Wish growling/hissing was a more socially acceptable form of communication. Like, it's so effective: you hear a growl, you back off cuz you know you'll get bit otherwise.

Tw/cw: dissociating, suicide mention, distressing stuff(?), election and politics.

Ok, for a bit, we are gonna have to just fully avoid any posts to do with the election and politics, so any of my mutuals, please tag any posts you make about these with the tags for them, please. So we can properly avoid them.

Need to take a break from it cause it is causing too much distress and shit.

I (the host) can feel myself dissociating [not necessarily to do with system/plural shit] and just we need to stop looking at it for now.

Also, please, any of my mutuals, tag if you mention suicide or killing yourself (either kms or kys versions), please. Cause we can't always deal with that, so we need to be able to avoid those posts when needed.

Basically, just please tag your posts properly, especially for trigger or content warnings, please.

The best thing would probably to be getting off of the internet/social media fully for a bit, but we can't really do that fully. Won't explain anymore than that.

Shay (They/it) & Declan? (They/them + ve/vem/ver/vers/vemself and thi/thim/thims/thims/thimself)

New userbox I (the host) made.

The picture was a picture I found of a crow that is brown (it's me!!!).

- Shay (They/it) | the host, we don't have a "name" or anything for our system overall yet.

Edit: Forgot to mention that any userbox that is posted as being made from us is free to use, and no credit is required, but it is appreciated.

Tw/cw: suicide, all caps in parts of our post

Ok, this is a great post, love it, thank you.

BUT PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING; TAG OR ADD THE TRIGGER WARNING FOR SUICIDE!! SOME BEINGS NEED TO BE ABLE TO FILTER POSTS WITH THAT OUT SO PLEASE ACTUALLY FUCKING TAG IT!!

As I said, it's a great post, and we love it, but still, tags of this kind are very important, so please tag any trigger warnings, especially suicide.

- Shay (They/it)

queer people of all kinds. i am looking you in the eyes. do not fucking kill yourself. are you listening to me it will be okay. it will get better. i am shaking you by the shoulders do. not. fucking. do. it. you have so much to keep going for and so many people who love you. the cost of the present will not outweigh the life ahead of you. i love you. chin up or down keep walking you'll get there. we will pull you back up onto your feet should you fall. i love you

All of this is a mood, including the tags, lol.

Our "many" disabilities disable us? Who would have guessed? Lol (this is mostly a dig at ourselves).

- Shay (They/it)

I often have to stop myself whenever I catch myself going “it’s just that easy” or “why can’t I be like this all the time?” after doing the most mundane shit without second thought.

It’s not that easy, I’m just having a really good day so far.

I can’t be like that all the time, I have a disability.

And that’s ok.

As a plural [questioning origin] who is new to the plural and system community in general, I wanna point out that from what we've seen being a system/plural is not really the whole thing with DID and other dissociative disorder like that, it's the trauma and being a system is more of an "add-on" (sorry for phrasing it like that).

So people saying they are PLURAL or a SYSTEM or whatever other word they prefer to use without trauma is not misdiagnosing themselves cause they aren't claiming to have DID or OSDD or other trauma based dissociative disorders without trauma. They are just saying that they have a similar thing to people with those disorders (I hope we are explaining this correctly).

So why are anti endos so obsessed with trying to call them fake or saying that they are doing that? If you just listen to them, you would learn more, and isn't that better? Don't traumagenic systems/plurals want to be listened to instead of being thought of badly from misinformation and bad representation and shit? So why aren't they doing that for endos?

I wouldn't usually jump into "discourse" or anything, but we felt like this needed to be said and understood. If you don't like this post, leave my account, go ahead, and block me. It will save everyone a ton of time.

- Lakey (They/it + blu/blue/blues/blues/blueself) & Shay (They/it) | almost always here as the host, lol

I think a big part of the reason that I went from anti-endo to endo-safe was absolutely due to how starkly different the communities felt.

Anti-endo communities were hard to engage with. Sure, some of them would focus on their support for each other more than their hatred of endogenic systems. And that's great! However, when you are brought together by your dislike of a certain group, you can't help but feel the hate permiate into so much of it. It always happened eventually. Anti-endo communities had such a focus on systems who were "fake" that I couldn't help but worry I was one of them, no matter how much they told me it was "just endos" they were concerned about.

The endo community (at least the parts I've engaged with and were easy to find) were so kind and respected me as a system, no matter how I felt or my plurality presented. Simply knowing we could find joy in our plurality allowed us to strive for so much more than we had thought possible before.

As a traumagenic system, we've improved so much with our symptoms and communication as a result of the positivity and acceptance we recieved. When we joined communities where we could be authenticallly ourselves (no matter what), we came together and faced so much less conflict between each other. And the conficts we did have, we realized that we could solve them together rather than alone.

When you are constantly doubting if you are "actually a system", you start to push the others away, and that made our dissociation and amnesia so much worse. I understand being careful of self-misdiangnosis, it can put you on the wrong path for how you learn to manage your symptoms. At the same time, the sentiment I often heard from endogenic systems when I was struggling with doubt and denial was very simple: "So what if you're not a system?" In short, it was okay to be wrong.

And that was huge for me. I realized that, no matter if I was a system or not, the techniques I used to improve ourselves and communicate with one another beneficial to me. At the end of the day, even if I wasn't a system after all, the skills I had found we invaluble to my health and well-being. So when I fall into denial spirals, no matter what I think about myself, I now know that I don't need to deprive myself of what has helped me, even if it is a "system thing." I don't feel scared to use these skills anymore (even in denial spirals), beacuse the line between what systems and non-systems or singlets can/can't do suddenly wasn't a big deal or a battle of "who can do what."

Our plurality is no longer a burden or a scar to us. It is simply who we are. We've learned so much about each other and ourselves since we've been accepted in full, and since we've learned to accept others. Endogenic communities have helped us (a traumagenic system) probably more than they'll ever know, and we're forever grateful for that.

So thank you, endogenic systems.

Oh i see you reblogged some tulpa and endo stuff :( are you not actually a system?

This is so incredibly disappointing to read.

I can genuinely only assume you're young and/or don't know any better, but what a person reblogs does not dictate who/what they are. My reasons for reblogging stuff can swing from, "I like it" to "I support it" to "this resonates with me in some way" and that last one has a sliding scale of "haha, funny" to "this is EXACTLY my experience" and you CANNOT KNOW which of these things it is, because you are not me/mine.

(Remember, we're a System, so some of these reblogs might even just be others' opinions/experiences/enjoyments, and not necessarily "mine". 😉👍)

Besides all that, you CANNOT dictate who is a "real" System and who is not. Endo Systems are just as valid as other Systems to me because I'm not going to sit here and pretend I know everything about the human brain, mental disorders, or even OSDD/DID, because I don't. YOU don't. Medical professionals don't. This research is VERY VERY NEW and mostly fueled by the plural community at this point. This science is also incredibly wibbly because it's about feelings and constructs no one can see, feel, taste, hear, etc. It's an entire disorder built on trusting that the host isn't lying, and - for that reason alone - we should stop pointing fingers and trying to tell people, "You're not valid! You reblogged someones tulpa post!"

...so?

Who cares???

I don't even know wtf a "tulpa" is. I don't care. I reblogged something I liked— BIG WHOOP!!

But even then, you - as an individual who I DO NOT KNOW, but (most importantly) DOES NOT KNOW ME - CANNOT judge what is real to me and my life experiences, just like I can't judge yours.

Keep an open mind. Be kind. Do not feed into the social media cesspool mentality of right VS wrong, black VS white.

Life is full of color. Don't dim your world view just because some asshat on Twitter told you to do so.

I'm not human, I'm what happens when you give a robot sapience and then mash its mechanical processors into the same shared space as 5 other dorks in a single brain.

My boyfriend is the host of a DID system and I'm dating most of them. One of their alters I am in a relationship with, let's call her "A" (She/Her), is questioning if she is some type of techkin/robotkin because of seeing me come out and is leaning towards yes, especially with her sources. Most of A's headmates including my boyfriend/their host agree.

While I am very proud of A's self discovery and am going to encourage it and help her discover more of who she is...

ROBOT YURI ROBOT YURI ROBOT YURI ROBOT YURI

Some self indulgent simply plural text boxes ^^

(heavy credit to all the image/emoji makers, can link credits if needed!!)

Taking requests for these as well!!

literally meeee!! :3

the internet truly is a beautiful place to unite people who share interests

No doubt.

I woke up to notifications for all the posts SR made. I didn’t expect for him to get active so suddenly.

He forgot to put his little sign-off in all his posts, by the way. That’s what the “-sr” means.

Those who get it, get it. Those who don’t, don’t.

Perhaps I will post more myself. Tumblr is an interesting place.

- TT

erm ,,, technically ? there's- dormancy, for sure, but totally being gone ? i know abt integration, but the concept of alter just being- gone- is fuzzy, and varies from system to system, i think

Questions to those of my friends, mutuales or by passers who are systems;

Is it possible to somehow ‘delete’ or remove alters from existence? I’m just curious and one of my friends asked.

uhhmm question.. /nf

what do you think of non-traumagenic and/or non-disordered systems..? /lh

>^>

i know it's a subject of lots of discourse in the community ,,, i don't think it's right to hate on anybody, or to tell anybody that their experience is invalid or false, it's just- different from what we're used to, yk ? something i also see a lot is ppl getting rlly upset bc "endogenic systems don't have trauma" or whatever- but they actually- *can* have trauma, and frequently *do* have trauma !! it's just not directly attached to how their system or headmates formed !! i think everyone has a right to their own experiences, but also that no one has a right to faking these kinds of things, yk ? but also, no one has a right to just claim out of the blue that someone is faking something based on their limited personal perception of what that someone releases onto social media, yeah ? it's hard sometimes to figure out that balance, how to sort the rotten from the ripe, yk ? but i think as long as everyone is loving and caring and listening, then it's going to be okay traumagenic systems have already been through enough, and endogenic systems likely have too—why do we need this added discourse based on how certain systems//headmates formed ?? some endogenic systems form from loneliness, which is sure painful, but it can be hard to tell if it qualifies as trauma, but that doesn't undermine the fact that there's other little guys in ur cranium now bopping around w u !!! i think everyone should just be nice, not fake disorders, and culture love and understanding :3 so ya !!