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I'm gonna miss waiting for the next update. Thank you Hussie for these wonderful characters, interesting story, beautiful memories, etc etc. Jade will always be my favorite HS character.
happy homestuck day, you filthy animals
i drew this from memory
Dw I had a 30 minute break time, (that technically I was supposed to be reading smth but I usually do it after school) and rn I'm about to head to lunch so my studies are perfectly okay atm thank you for worrying though ^^
Whether June was or was not made as a joke doesn't matter (to me at least) because she's been canonized in hs:bc.
Also it turns out the person who made the brochure updated it and changed the website from Dropbox to scribd so I had to look for it. </3
Here's the link:
As for adblockers,,, I dunno. I'm using my phone for most of my posting and my phone will kill me if I download a lot of things. I have way too many things I can't delete to get a VPN or adblocker,,, sigh.
I hate @/davekat-sucks. Like, they're all open to their oppinions and good for them or whatever when it comes to that.
But they're trying to put social rules and laws on a fictional world that go off of completely different rules.
When it comes to the incest jokes and pedophile stuff, I can see why they're upset. I usually don't mind that kinda stuff but the creators of hs:bc kinda shoved it in there in a weird way and it felt icky.
But like every post feels like a weird circle jerk between them and the anons in their ask box.
They say "roxy is a pedophile, because Caliope is emotionally stunted." And everyone in their asks acts like was they say is scripture. (I am slightly overexagerating but you get my point)
Caliope and Roxy aren't even dating. They don't even have feeling for eachother. Calliope quite litterally can't, and in Homestuck Roxy learned about that and was okay with it. Calliope isn't even a child btw. Her cheeks aren't filled in because Caliborn never died. That doesn't mean she's a child emotionally or whatever. She grew up just like Roxy and the others did. The ring making it so she doesn't age does make sense but I don't think it can really be used to say Roxy is a pedophile, seeing they don't like eachother like that.
June did say that she emotionally cheated on him, but he was locked in his house for God knows how long without talking to either of them. He doesn't know shit about what's going on between them.
As for June being a pedophile,,,, I can't defend that one. I dunno why the authors made that decision,,,, bleh.
I don't even understand why davekat-sucks even cares that much anyways, since they've made posts about ships that are incestuous or pedophilic several times!!!
I attempted to explain june being trans in one post cause I saw one of their anons asking.
They reblogged and claimed that both Vriska and Dadbert groomed June into being certain genders???
That is actual transphobic rhetoric. You can't groom a person into being a certain gender. That's not how that even works???
June's dad was being supportive of his kid!!! How would he even know his kid was trans if his kid wasn't even aware herself???? Like it happens all the time. My dad never hesitated to supporting me being feminine, and when I came out, he was in full support of me being more masculine!!!
And vriska, while yes, does have a habit of pushing people to do things before their ready, she can't force a guy into being transgender. No one can!! As a light player, she tends to understand or realize things about people before even they know it themselves. That doesn't mean what she sees in people is just what she wants out of them, it just means she's impatient and tries to get it out of them as soon as possible. And btw. Vriska didn't even say anything about her being a girl?? She put a bunch of Os in John. (I didn't know when I originally reblogged their post, so I did just look it up rq)
Had to look it up to find someone more competent in explaining june being trans, so if you're interested here ya go. It doesnt go into the canonicity of her being trans or the in-story evidence unfortunately i think its still interesting to see where it comes from.
Ps. I got really pissed having to read through their stuff so to get myself to feel better I did classpect them. Keep in mind, I am absolutely biased against them, and I am only going off of their posts. I think they're a Bard of Mind. ••)b if you're looking for information on a bard of mind I recommend looking at Dahni's take and a collection of classpect's take on It.
I'm in school rn so I can't give a detailed response soo rq some things that I wanna correct/mention. Out of order and kinda messy because I am typing as I think so sorry if it doesn't make 100% sense.
I know reality and fiction are two separate things?? I dunno why exactly you added that when I fully agree with that and say that fiction should be treated differently than irl in my post.
I didn't disrespect Roxy's pronouns. I wasn't even talking about roxy?? But also I was writing the original post on about 4 ish hours of sleep at most, so I kept going back and fourth between he/him and she/her for june. I'll admit I did fuck up on that part,,, june said that she was emotionally cheating on roxy with the younger Terezi and claimed that roxy was doing the same with caliope.
Andrew hussie said several times that he genuinely agreed on june being trans.
Vriska being an abusive asshole toward tavros has nothing to do with the name june coming from her (・・;) like. I'm not condoning anything. I'm just explaining her character and why she does that. Not saying it's okay.
On the dadbert thing, yeahh again. That one was a mistake of me quickly reading though a bunch of posts really quickly on very little sleep. Sorry for misunderstanding that. You are actually correct on that part.
As for the classpect,
You can absolutely be a girl in a male dominant class. Think of it kinda like how most babysitters are girls, but there obviously are still guys who are also babysitters. (Not the best analogy, but idk how else to explain that.) When it comes to classpecting it really is just taking what little we get in Canon and guesstimating from there.
As for you being a sylph of heart specifically, I think that heart still doesn't feel accurate. At least not paired with sylph. But obv how you veiw yourself and your classpect is always gonna be wayyy more accurate than what either any tests or what I may say. I really recommend you check out the classpecting brochure and go from there ^^ (I can send you a link to it if you want, but the website it's on has had a lot of ads and has been pretty obnoxious to use lately)
I hate @/davekat-sucks. Like, they're all open to their oppinions and good for them or whatever when it comes to that.
But they're trying to put social rules and laws on a fictional world that go off of completely different rules.
When it comes to the incest jokes and pedophile stuff, I can see why they're upset. I usually don't mind that kinda stuff but the creators of hs:bc kinda shoved it in there in a weird way and it felt icky.
But like every post feels like a weird circle jerk between them and the anons in their ask box.
They say "roxy is a pedophile, because Caliope is emotionally stunted." And everyone in their asks acts like was they say is scripture. (I am slightly overexagerating but you get my point)
Caliope and Roxy aren't even dating. They don't even have feeling for eachother. Calliope quite litterally can't, and in Homestuck Roxy learned about that and was okay with it. Calliope isn't even a child btw. Her cheeks aren't filled in because Caliborn never died. That doesn't mean she's a child emotionally or whatever. She grew up just like Roxy and the others did. The ring making it so she doesn't age does make sense but I don't think it can really be used to say Roxy is a pedophile, seeing they don't like eachother like that.
June did say that she emotionally cheated on him, but he was locked in his house for God knows how long without talking to either of them. He doesn't know shit about what's going on between them.
As for June being a pedophile,,,, I can't defend that one. I dunno why the authors made that decision,,,, bleh.
I don't even understand why davekat-sucks even cares that much anyways, since they've made posts about ships that are incestuous or pedophilic several times!!!
I attempted to explain june being trans in one post cause I saw one of their anons asking.
They reblogged and claimed that both Vriska and Dadbert groomed June into being certain genders???
That is actual transphobic rhetoric. You can't groom a person into being a certain gender. That's not how that even works???
June's dad was being supportive of his kid!!! How would he even know his kid was trans if his kid wasn't even aware herself???? Like it happens all the time. My dad never hesitated to supporting me being feminine, and when I came out, he was in full support of me being more masculine!!!
And vriska, while yes, does have a habit of pushing people to do things before their ready, she can't force a guy into being transgender. No one can!! As a light player, she tends to understand or realize things about people before even they know it themselves. That doesn't mean what she sees in people is just what she wants out of them, it just means she's impatient and tries to get it out of them as soon as possible. And btw. Vriska didn't even say anything about her being a girl?? She put a bunch of Os in John. (I didn't know when I originally reblogged their post, so I did just look it up rq)
Had to look it up to find someone more competent in explaining june being trans, so if you're interested here ya go. It doesnt go into the canonicity of her being trans or the in-story evidence unfortunately i think its still interesting to see where it comes from.
Ps. I got really pissed having to read through their stuff so to get myself to feel better I did classpect them. Keep in mind, I am absolutely biased against them, and I am only going off of their posts. I think they're a Bard of Mind. ••)b if you're looking for information on a bard of mind I recommend looking at Dahni's take and a collection of classpect's take on It.
Hussie: “You want plot progression? In that case:”
Hussie: “HAVE YOUR PLOT PROGRESSION THEN!”
The resplendent light of divine PULCHRITUDE consumes your spirit.
My final artwork of 2022! I've reread Problem Sleuth in December and just had to make fan art of PS' final form. Finally I can get to posting more recent stuff.
Edited to clarify some information regarding classes and gender. As a note, I’m pretty sure I made this chart either before Hussie made the statement on female Princes, or before I was aware of it. I’m still keeping the chart as-is, though, for now.
Here’s a chart of all the classes, both Standard and Master.
My goal was to define, describe, and categorize them as efficiently and accurately as possible, based on my understanding of the classes. I based as much as I could on canon information, while inferring the rest.
(For clarity, “–” denotes Active, and “+” denotes Passive.)
(Note: If chart looks distorted/shrunken, right-click and View Image.)
Special thanks to bladekindeyewear, dahniwitchoflight, infinitywhale and probably others for their insight and information, helping me understand the classes and aspects. I couldn’t have made this chart without them.
Some clarification: I am aware Hussie essentially said any gender can have any class (i.e. female Princes). I don’t like the idea of gendered classes, anyway, and I think it’s needlessly restrictive, not to mention sexist and stereotyping.
However, my chart reflects what’s been depicted in comic, based on what Calliope states, looking at the characters’ classes and gender distribution, and then making some inferences based on Hussie’s penchant for balance and based on class names and god tier outfit designs.
Remember after the Trickster arc (A6A5A2), how the story returns to A6A5A1? Caliborn yells at Hussie for going "BACKWARDS BY AN 'ACT'." He thinks the Trickster shenanigans were "erased," to which Hussie responds:
What are you talking about? I didn't erase it. It was still a thing that happened. Do you really think I have the power to make something unhappen?? I would have to be a wizard to do that.
Well, it turns out someone does have that power:
Which means John Egbert is a wizard.
John already has plenty of wizard allusions:
DISREGARD THE UNIMPORTANT MALE GHOST BEHIND THE CURTAIN.
An obvious reference to the Wizard of Oz saying, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
JOHN: let's all go see a big pompous wizard to solve all of our problems.
JOHN: we didn't realize it at the time, but there were still a bunch of problems waiting to happen. [...] JOHN: but don't worry, i'm working to overcome all those problems right now. JOHN: that's why i'm here!
Frigglish bothered his beard, as if unkinking a hitch in a long silk windsock. [...] As a matter of fact, his cadre of fellow wizards were all putting similar moves on their beards as well.
Thanks to John's god tier hood (wind powers help, too), others (mostly Roxy) continually mention windsocks with reference to John.
ROXY: im all ears johnny windsock
Even the Magician's Hat John wears as part of his "Clever Disguise" and the Bunny Sassacre Fedora---one of the first items he alchemizes---are wizardly.
One of the very first snippets of information we learn about John is that he's "an aspiring AMATEUR MAGICIAN." While it appears to mean a magician in the sense of an "entertainer who is skilled in producing illusion by sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc.," a magician is also a "person who is skilled in magic" or a "sorcerer"---in other words, a wizard. Couldn't it mean both?
If Heir is indeed the passive counterpart to Witch, both classes who "change, manipulate, and control (with/through) their aspect"---which I like to call the Magician Classes---wouldn't that make the Heir of Breath a magician or wizard, anyway?
John and others continually refer to John and his abilities as "magic":
EB: everyone i know is turning magic, it's ridiculous. EB: including me! i'm magic now.
("Everyone" specifically alluding to Jade and Rose, an actual Witch and a Seer with the inclination toward Witch inversion.)
John calls his retcon abilities "weird retcon magic," and describes it as "some kind of surreal, history altering... reality hopping... magic power.” Roxy calls it “magic ‘fix literally everything' powers.”
Although John aspires to become a SKILLED MAGICIAN and a CUNNING PRANKSTER, he is “neither of these things” for most of the story.
At first, John has no control over his magic powers (first wind, then space-time jumping retcon abilities). However, eventually he learns and masters his powers, becoming a SKILLED MAGICIAN.
JOHN: i've noticed whenever i learn to do new things with my powers, it's usually in response to something. like something important that has to be done.
JOHN: i learned how to turn into wind and swoosh around about a year ago. [...] JOHN: i thought for sure i was a goner, when suddenly i poofed away from his tentacly grasp like houdini's slippery ghost. later i rematerialized to seize the tactical advantage!
JADE: he dispersed every drop throughout existence
JADE: leaving a little mark for anyone who might notice, signifying his final mastery over his confining reality
Thanks to his powers and Terezi's scarf instructions, John becomes a CUNNING PRANKSTER, as well.
JOHN: i am like the ultimate prankster now... nanna would be so proud!
Previously, John was neither a skilled magician nor a cunning prankster. Now he is both.
John, a magician, the wizard with the “power to make something unhappen."
Bonus points for shipping fodder: Roxy LOVES wizards.
John = Wizard. CONFIRMED.
There is something downright ominous about Vriska’s return. Something about it just seems so foreboding and …wrong.
It brings to mind John’s reaction to Caliborn’s retelling of events in “Homosuck”:
Her return is so ominous, evidence suggests that John will eventually retcon his retcon to restore the original Alpha Timeline.
But what makes Vriska’s return so foreboding? What significance will this new Alpha Timeline have upon reality? And why must John undo this change?
Overview of Topics:
Personal growth
Terezi’s inverted behavior
Characters’ meta-awareness
Retcons, void timelines, and semi-stable retcon loops
Caliborn’s statements
Doc Scratch’s omniscience
Alt!Calliope
Gamzee’s importance
Vriska’s Thief of Light and Page of Void roles
Horses: the Ultimate Bad Omen
Vriska’s return is disturbing because it undoes all the experiences and personal growth the heroes have undergone for the past three years on their journey through the Furthest Ring. The very notion contradicts something in story Hussie himself emphasized as important:
They have to face all those issues themselves, or they will never learn and grow as people. […] The journey itself is more important than the destination. The struggle is what builds character and teaches us about ourselves and about life.
He elaborates, comparing Trickster Mode shenanigans to Mario using a Star to overcome obstacles:
But the point is, [Mario] didn't really win. That magic star was actually devastating to his development as a human being. WHY. Because he skipped over many critical trials on his spiritual journey. Mario NEEDS to stomp on all those mushrooms. He NEEDS to bonk those bricks with his head, for the sake of his personal growth. By using the star, he is denying himself many powerful moments of catharsis.
This idea very much applies to John’s retcon powers and using them to change the Alpha Timeline, the events of the story. Like Trickster Mode and Mario's Star, retconning seems like an easy fix, a cheap, deus ex machina solution. It’s cheating. Dave even states, “messing with the alpha timeline [...] almost seems heretical.” Solving problems by retconning them out of existence is ineffectual and does not lead to growth.
By Terezi having John reset the timeline, undoing Vriska’s death, many of the characters will no longer face the challenges and hardships they previously would have. Terezi undoes the guilt that torments her, her abusive relationship with Gamzee, and the healing of her eyesight.
It is absolutely understandable that Terezi would want to do this! How many people wish they could undo something in their lives, especially mistakes they deeply regret making? How many people would change these mistakes if given the capability? However, in doing so, Terezi is denying herself the opportunity to grow and to heal from these experiences.
The events of our lives and the actions we take shape, define, and refine who we are as individuals. By having John retcon Vriska’s death, Terezi is essentially changing who she is and who she will become. Consequently, she’s changing who the other characters are, as well. Terezi is acting as a Witch of Heart, one who changes and controls the core identity of individuals.
The comic even visually hints at this role behavior when Terezi wears Jade’s Witch shoes:
Her Witch of Heart subrole should support her Seer of Mind role, not the other way around! Using the subrole, one’s inverse, as the lead role is not a healthy mode of operation! It spells disaster! This behavior foretells dire consequences.
There is something else foreboding about Vriska’s return. The characters all seem to intuitively KNOW these events are not supposed to happen. They KNOW things have been changed, that this is not how the story is supposed to go, that this is not the intended path of the Alpha Timeline. They have an almost meta-awareness of it.
JANE: But it wouldn't surprise me if the one who dealt my fatal blow was the leader of the raid [Vriska].
JANE: This was the unanticipated factor. JANE: Their leader was someone who was not expected to show up with them at all. […] JANE: You see, Callie, your historical documents make no mention of the leader of the raid, because originally, the curtains closed early on this plucky customer. JANE: But the hero was written back into our story by some inscrutable gambit of circumstance which we may never fully understand.
JOHN: i randomly appeared and knocked vriska out cold, just like the scarf told me to. […] TEREZI: YOU W3R3N'T SUPPOS3D TO DO TH1S! TEREZI: 1 W4S SUPPOS3D TO K1LL H3R! TEREZI: YOU JUST DOOM3D US 4LL!!!
Does Terezi’s reaction sound familiar? It should. Dave reacts the same way when John accidentally “zaps in,” interrupting his and Jade’s conversation and retconning events that originally occurred.
DAVE: you being here DAVE: thats not supposed to happen […] DAVE: its not supposed to go down like this i can feel it JOHN: i know! […] JADE: whatever dave and i were going to argue about JADE: i think the moment has passed JADE: the whole thing is kind of ruined to be honest
Dave has the same thoughts as Terezi: that John should not be there, these events are not supposed to happen, and John has doomed the timeline. John explains to each of them that this is not the case because it’s “not time travel,” yet Dave and Terezi remain skeptical and uneasy.
This meta-awareness and sense of a doomed timeline occurs elsewhere, too: when Aranea puts on the Ring of Life and invades the merged session.
MEENAH: you know all youre doing is making another doomed timeline where everyone dies right ARANEA: Of course I know that.
After the events of Game Over, Roxy and John sense the timeline is doomed, as well.
ROXY: this is starting to feel an awful lot like the end […] ROXY: maybe we should just ROXY: admit to ourselves this is probably what its like when you find yourself in a timeline where everything went wrong ROXY: and you know it means youre doomed
But here’s the thing. In each of those cases, the timeline isn’t "doomed" in the traditional sense, events undone because of time travel. In both cases, events are actually retconned by John, making the timeline not doomed, but void.
John voids the Game Over timeline by going back and retrieving the Ring of Life, preventing Aranea from obtaining it.
Regarding Dave and Jade’s confrontation, John purposefully retcons his retcon, setting events back to how they originally transpired, voiding his interference. He creates a semi-stable retcon loop.
In the new Alpha Timeline, because the characters have this same meta-awareness that these events are not supposed to happen—that Vriska is not supposed to be alive—and they sense that the timeline is doomed, I suspect John will retcon his retcon again, undoing the undoing of Vriska’s death, and creating another semi-stable retcon loop.
Why? Meta-narratively speaking, so events will play out how they originally were intended, how the characters KNOW and FEEL they are supposed to happen. So it won’t undo all the character growth the characters undergo. Besides,
It's also logical, since there is essentially nothing new in paradox space. Everything that can happen is either a visual or substantive reproduction of something which has already transpired on a timeline, offshoot or otherwise.
Another semi-stable retcon loop is bound to occur at some point. We were shown the first one for a reason.
Aside from all the parallels to events surrounding John's previous semi-stable retcon loop, more evidence supports a retcon of this new Alpha Timeline.
Caliborn points out the irony that Vriska “ACTUALLY THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO BE RELEVANT” and tells her to “KEEP DREAMING,” which is visualized by a “PSYCHE-OUT!!!” watermark and Vriska losing her head.
In the current iteration of the Alpha Timeline, Vriska’s new life state gives her the opportunity to have greater relevance and importance than before, when she was dead. “Dreaming” can even be a euphemism for “dead,” as death in dream bubbles compares to the state of dreaming and never waking up.
Caliborn seems to know Vriska will not be as important as she thinks she will be, and by telling her to “KEEP DREAMING,” he’s effectively telling her to stay dead. If John retcons his retcon, and Vriska actually remains dead after all, not only will this fulfill Caliborn’s statement, but it would prove to be the ultimate “PSYCHE-OUT!!!” to everyone, particularly to us readers.
Doc Scratch provides another indication John will retcon his retcon. Doc Scratch claims to have “absolute mastery of the Alpha Timeline” alone, any deviations withering from his perception. If the Alpha Timeline remains on its present course, it would make Doc Scratch either a liar or incorrect about this mastery.
When John retcons Vriska’s death, it voids events of the original Alpha Timeline, events Doc Scratch explicitly shows us.
John's retcon turns the original Alpha Timeline, the events Doc Scratch shows us, into a void timeline. If Doc Scratch’s knowledge only pertains to this pre-retcon Alpha Timeline, his mastery is not of the true Alpha, but a voided version of it.
Doc Scratch is omniscient and does not lie. Yet at the same time, he has difficulty with Void.
AG: Sure you know a lot, 8ut I know for a FACT there's stuff you don't know. That's true. But the gaps in my knowledge exist by design. They are the pillars of shadow on which my comprehensive vision is built. Necessary pockets of void meant to effectuate outcomes I've foreseen and which will require my influence. Each dark pocket, in time, will be filled.
Occasionally I discover there are things I have not always known. It gives me the opportunity to make deductions, which are practically always flawless. […] But sometimes that is the nature of these hollows in my perception. It feels a bit like dark water, sloshing about the cavity in my head.
Wouldn’t it make sense for the new, current Alpha Timeline to be eventually retconned back to how events originally transpired? It would make the present Alpha, wherein Vriska lives, a void timeline. Void, which can escape Doc Scratch’s perception.
Considering Vriska “occupied a blind spot” to the Condesce, Jane, and Jade with her return, it seems reasonable she could occupy one of Doc Scratch’s “dark pockets,” as well.
If John retcons his retcon and creates a semi-stable retcon loop, it would validate Doc Scratch's mastery of the final, true Alpha Timeline, and it would reinforce the notion of pockets of Void in his knowledge.
But all of this raises another question: If eventually John is going to retcon the new, current Alpha Timeline back to its original state, what importance does the present timeline have?
The answer is Calliope’s alternate reality self.
JADE: like i said, [Alt!Calliope] just finished telling me that she was able to beat her brother in this reality JADE: but apparently, that wasnt supposed to happen? JADE: so she lived out the rest of her life in a doomed timeline and eventually died
Now, granted, this Calliope could be any Calliope from any regular doomed timeline, but I don’t think this is the case. This Calliope seems too important and special to be a random doomed one. This Calliope indicates her story is tied somehow to our John, the same John with retcon abilities and unstuck in canon.
JADE: and then she did this kinda fancy transition [...] to a story about MY brother... who was stuck in a doomed timeline too […] JADE: almost all our friends had died JADE: and johns only hope was to return to his planet, and attempt to complete his personal quest
Jade’s wording about Calliope is suspiciously similar to descriptions of timelines John retcons: Her defeat over Caliborn isn’t “supposed to happen.” If this Calliope is one who retroactively embodies Paradox Space, it would make sense for her to have been a part of the Alpha Timeline at one point, even if that timeline is eventually retconned. A standard doomed Calliope likely would not have enough importance to have such drastic influence over all of reality itself.
The difference between this Calliope and all other doomed Calliopes, why she unprecedentedly dominated her brother, could be in how they were raised: without Gamzee’s influence. In the present Alpha Timeline, Gamzee is suspiciously absent at the end of the three-year journey.
The meaning of Terezi’s ominous message, “you don’t need him,” has not yet been explained. Perhaps it refers to Gamzee. If removed from the picture, he cannot raise the cherubs, influencing their upbringing, personalities, resources, and knowledge.
Remember, just as Calliope is “not supposed to” dominate, Gamzee is “not supposed to” die. Hussie even states he is “not aware of a single timeline in which [Gamzee] dies.” If Gamzee only ever dies in a void timeline, each time the Alpha retconned so his death never occurs, Hussie’s supposed lack of its awareness makes sense.
If John retcons his retcon, it will make the current Alpha Timeline, wherein Vriska lives, a void timeline in actuality. It seems fitting that a Thief of Light from a void timeline would steal the Alpha Timeline’s Light—its importance and relevance. Not to mention her Page of Void subrole, empowering others to exploit Void—a void timeline—maximizing its use.
However, everything the heroes have done so far has advanced Lord English’s machinations. What exactly will happen is unclear, but all the ominous foreshadowing surrounding Vriska's return hints that something disastrous will occur and force John to go back and retcon this timeline.
One clue is Jane’s phrasing of Vriska’s return and the raid she leads in the merged session:
JANE: The tilt between the friendly and felonious was a true horse race again. A real barn burner in the brewing.
Jane’s colorful wording metaphorically surrounds them with horses.
VRISKA: I think I've just decided that 8eing surrounded 8y horses might 8e the ultim8 8ad omen. Nothing good can ever follow or precede those circumstances.
The Ultimate Bad Omen. Vriska’s return is ominous indeed.
I recently came across something called the Twelve Archetypes. Apparently it’s a concept by psychologist Carol S. Pearson, inspired by the Jungian notions of personality types and archetypes, as well as Joseph Campbell’s theory of a monomyth (aka The Hero’s Journey).
And, well… Wow. Twelve hero archetypes. That is absolutely the Homestuck class system. While not perfect, they translate really well, too!
Witch = Magician
Heir = Everyman / Orphan
Mage = Explorer / Seeker
Seer = Sage
Prince = Ruler
Bard = Jester
Maid = Creator
Sylph = Caregiver
Thief = Revolutionary / Rebel / Destroyer
Rogue = Lover
Knight = Hero / Warrior
Page = Innocent
Apparently there’s a whole formal, official, scientific-based personality test regarding the Twelve Archetypes called the Pearson-Marr Archetype Indicator (PMAI). (Free version of the test here.)
Information on the Twelve Archetypes: The Pearson Archetypal System The 12 Common Archetypes Pearson-Marr Archetype Indicator (PMAI) (Wikipedia) Pearson’s heroic archetypes
How am I just now learning of this? There's no way Hussie could have NOT based the SBURB class system on this concept. I don't even.