I've Seen People On Tiktok And Twitter Getting Mad That People Are Siding With Joel For Citing That 1.

i've seen people on tiktok and twitter getting mad that people are siding with joel for citing that 1. the fireflies have no feasible means to create and distribute an actual working vaccine 2. their entire medical and research methods are so full of holes

some people act like they're much better fans of tlou because they discuss the more nuanced aspects of joel's decision and why it can be argued that what he did was wrong.

like, based on facts, them lying by omission was already unethical by medical professional standards. what was joel supposed to do? submit a report to the american medical association and pause the operation to wait for their judgement? the man is outnumbered and his kid is already hooked up on an operating table. you think the fireflies would let joel waltz in the operating room, ask the doctor and nurses and fireflies to wait for ellie to wake up, and then ask for her consent? when in fact they were already so hostile to joel as soon as he woke up?

joel was right. and i can make this post longer by arguing that he also believed lying to ellie was the best course of action. he's lied to her before about everyone loving contractors. hell, ellie tells joel in episode 3 he should have lied to her so she would not be enticed to check out the mass grave. she tells joel in episode 6 that he could just have lied about how the dam works and she would have believed him. but i fucking digress.

poking holes at the material conditions of the fireflies along with their medical malpractice is not a bad argument to use to justify joel's actions. get off your high discourse horse and fight me.