I Don't Blame Anyone For Not Knowing That Thistle Was Literally Trafficked And That Freinag's Advisors

i don't blame anyone for not knowing that Thistle was Literally Trafficked and that Freinag's advisors bought him and presented him as a gift because Freinag threw a baby tantrum because he wanted an elven servant as a living conversation piece, and that from the very beginning Thistle's purpose in the Melini court was "cute exotic pet for Freinag to show off"

because it's all in supplemental material. because the only person in the comic who knows this for sure is Thistle.

we can't completely assume that what Yaad tells Laios and co is 100% of what he's been told by Delgal, and that he isn't leaving things out or massaging the story into a convenient shape to position Thistle as an antagonist who must be stopped, because he's certainly canny enough to do that

but i think we can pretty comfortably imagine that it could be everything Yaad knows, and that if it's not, it's still probably pretty close to the story Delgal has told him. and it's fairly clear that Delgal has presented things in a certain light, characterized Thistle in a certain way, and from there we have to wonder: how much of that is on purpose?

certainly some of it is, because Delgal is very avoidant and the actual truth of the matter is that he shares a significant portion of the blame here, but all of it? i could very easily see Delgal not knowing that his father bought and owns Thistle. from his perspective, Thistle's just been there since before he was born and was a constant and loving companion - and confidante and caretaker - throughout his life.

so if Delgal doesn't know, then how could Yaad? and how could anyone else know if Thistle isn't going to tell them, and why would he?

the comic about how Thistle came to court and the elf cake comic are, i think, two of the most crucial pieces to understanding Thistle, because when you take them together, what you get is:

Thistle was abandoned at birth. between his birth and when Freinag's advisors bought him, someone raised him, fed him, clothed him, taught him to speak, and taught him how to play a couple of instruments well enough that he could entertain a king. whoever did that then - after twenty-odd years of being the closest thing he had to a family following the separation from his birth parent, something which he wouldn't be able to consciously remember but which would nonetheless have left him with a visceral and entirely subconscious belief that He Can Be Abandoned At Any Time And If That Happens He Will Die, because that's what happens to babies that are left alone - sold him.

so by the time he was the human equivalent of 5 or 6, he'd been taught that nothing is permanent, no one loves him enough to keep him, he will be abandoned, and that ultimately he is both a commodity and a curiosity, and any hope of having a home or being cared for depends on pleasing whoever owns him.

to make matters worse, Freinag didn't even like him at first. he scowled and sulked and the advisors, over Thistle's head, told Freinag that they needed to make sure he was harmless, that he was a perfectly impressive status symbol, and to just make sure he didn't get too attached. and Freinag proceeded to sulk for at least a couple of days (two different outfits on Thistle) before deciding he liked him.

Thistle didn't even have a name when he was bought. what did he spend the last 20-odd years of his life being called? how long did it take for Freinag to warm up enough to give him the cat-you-found-in-a-dumpster-ass name he ended up giving him?

no fucking wonder he latched onto the Melinis as hard as he did. no wonder he was so obsessively devoted to Delgal, the closest thing he had to a friend or someone who treated him as an equal. he was abandoned, bought and sold as a status symbol, told quite explicitly that he would only be tolerated as long as he was harmless and entertaining, and loved like a pet until Freinag had a real son.

no wonder he was so eager to prove himself. no wonder he would have done anything Delgal said. no wonder that he rewrote reality itself to try to keep Delgal safe and happy. no wonder he's so scared all the time - he has to have been scared his whole life, desperate to belong and horribly aware of just how easily he could be discarded, starving for love to fill the gaping primal wound in him from the kind of abandonment he experienced.

no wonder his idea of love is to keep people smothered and trapped, like birds in a cage. that's the only kind of love anyone ever showed him.

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was it ever shown if the frogskin sack chilchuck wore had any arm holes? was senshi just turning around every so often to feed him?

Pretty sure it didn't so I guess, romantic

Was It Ever Shown If The Frogskin Sack Chilchuck Wore Had Any Arm Holes? Was Senshi Just Turning Around

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9 months ago
Felt Inspired By This Weeks Dungeon Meshi Ep
Felt Inspired By This Weeks Dungeon Meshi Ep

felt inspired by this weeks dungeon meshi ep


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9 months ago

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

Welcome back! Finishing up Volume 9!

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

What's with the random snake on the cover? There weren't even any snakes in this volu- wait.

Mithrun, that's rude.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3
Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

And coming from someone like Kabru, that's saying something.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

There's a really fun extra where Mithrun complains that Kabru cut out all the bits leading to the punchline. While it's partially true that Kabru simplified it so people would understand, I like to think Kabru cut out Mithrun's deeper motivations and desires to maintain his privacy. People don't need to know that. Even if Mithrun doesn't care, Kabru still treats him with basic respect.

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It's rather heartwarming how much these two come to respect each other. I'm not sure if either of them has ever had anyone treat them as an equal.

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See? He's laughing cause that very much isn't what was really going on. No need to air out Mithrun's struggles with superiority.

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You say that, but... that look in his eyes doesn't look very happy to me.

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Good for him. What? What are you readers giving me that look for?

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

I hate the demon. I really really hate it. It acts nice, and may do nice things, but at the end of the day, it's a groomer. And a r*pist. Seriously, it is really that awful.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

Ah, I see the demon is also a gacha gamer. The most evil of hobbies.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

Maybe I don't get how desires work, but I feel like you wouldn't want to turn into a mushroom, because it would prevent you from getting revenge? I dunno, the rules seem pretty fuzzy.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

First, why were you sitting on the other side of the portal? Second, how malnourished was Mithrun that a single week of questionable food has him looking healthier? Third, please let Fleki sleep.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

On the one hand, this is probably because Laios is a direct lead to finding the demon. On the other hand, it's because he and Kabru are friends now! :D

Also, I think I figured out why this volume is only six chapters. I haven't done page counts or anything, but chapter 62 feels twice as long as a typical chapter. So I guess that leaves the anime with 1 episode worth of wiggle room.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

Plausible deniability at its finest.

Dungeon Meshi Volume 9 Part 3

I don't know how, but I really hope this makes it into the anime. It's a really important bit of Chilchuck characterization.

And that's it for volume 9! Hope you enjoyed, because next time we're headed right for the heart of the dungeon. With plenty of dramatic irony! We may want to rip the lion a new one, but our hapless heroes have no idea the danger they're in! See you!


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10 months ago
So I Got Into Dungeon Meshi And I’ve Been Telling Everyone Who I Talk To. I Love Everything About The

So I got into dungeon meshi and i’ve been telling everyone who I talk to. I love everything about the world, characters, the art, etc.

BUT

People are not kidding when they say that senshi will manifest in your head to tell you to eat better. Like I have a hard time remembering to eat but my brain would be like “you haven’t eaten in some hours, you need a meal” and I would be like you’re very right internal senshi I’m gonna see what I can make. Then I make food??? Honestly Gods sent senshi for helping so many people eat better


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10 months ago

i love how in Dungeon Meshi they keep referring to "the lord of the dungeon" while in the manga translation im reading its translated as "the master of the dungeon"

they are trying SO HARD to avoid saying "dungeon master" but like this IS the ultimate set up for reoccurring a dnd gag just ACCEPT IT


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