I felt sympathy for Anakin but he still needed to die. The problem is why should I feel empathy for Kylo besides him being a SkySolo and a White Male? There is no other good reason. He grew up Rich with the Force and his biggest issues were his parents worked and his uncle didn't tell him about Darth Vader? Rey grew up sold into shit conditions on a desert backwater. Finn and millions of other as Child Soldiers ripped from their parents. Rose apparently lost her parents and her sister. And I am suppose to feel bad for Kylo. No there is no redemption strong enough. At least Anakin was a slave, who wanted to save his wife and kids and snapped after watching his mother die.
I always have to laugh when I see posts like “when Reylo becomes canon, then all of the antis will see the error of their ways.”
Because that will seriously never happen. I’m not going to say that it’s completely impossible for someone to write a redemption arc that is SO powerful that it wins me over. But the odds are seriously against it.
And honestly, even if they did somehow successfully redeem Kylo Ren to my satisfaction, I STILL wouldn’t be happy seeing him paired with one of his victims.
Most likely, even if LucasFilms does make the incredibly ghastly mistake of making Reylo canon, I will go to my grave screaming about all of the deaths at Kylo Ren’s hands..
I still haven’t shut up about Grimm pairing their lead character with a serial rapist. I’m not going to shut up about this either.
Canon isn’t a cure-all for a fucked up ship.
Oh god if the latest spoilers are true. I am beyond disgusted. I simply do not see how RJ got a trilogy off this shit. Well I do KK only ever gave a fuck about Kylo Ren and Adam Driver. So Fuck Feminism and Fuck Diversity.
The Latest and Greatest Hits
1) Luke sees the Darkness in Kylo caused by Snoke and tries to kill him with a lightsaber. Luke Skywalker the man who tried to save his father. Who threw down his own lightsaber to try to save his Evil Father from the Dark Side rather then strike him down. Decides to attempt to murder a defenseless child to save the Galaxy. How the fuck is this not character assassination of the highest order? No wonder Mark hated shit. George Lucas should sue.
2) Shirtless Kylo scene where Rey blushes and tells Kylo to put his shirt on you heard that right the supposed main lead and heroine getting wet over then man who killed her supposed Mentor/his father, maimed her best friend, tried to break into her mind and tossed her into a tree along with being a high ranking fascist regime member who aided genocide and civilian slaughter....this is truly a nightmare and a Reylo and Alt Righters wet dream.
Beyond Disgusting if True.
God They All Tried To Warn Us....LoL now we know the signs people so if we get more of this for IX we know what is coming
Yeah its gonna be great.
I mean it!!! My askbox is opened and I won’t spoil anyone else, I just really need to know what happens. PLEASEEEEE!
Eh I have read before that Oscar really doesnt like promoting movies he doesnt have a major role in so I hope most of his stuff didnt end up on the cutting room floor although he is also a pretty busy actor...but my mind of late when it comes to TLJ jumps to the negative answer
Yeah it was bad in TFA but this is worst not just because now they should know it was bad idea but also cause were once again lied to do about Finn with the dynamic described to us in marketing not existing in the actual movie. Beyond that also at least you can make the case Rey had a reason to attack Finn, Rose has no such Reason and Rose goes a step further by shocking Finn until he falls Unconscious after just getting off the medical bay. The fact that it will be played for laughs makes my blood boil.
I keep thinking about how we were given the impression that Finn and Rose’s story would be a cool team up and that Rose would think he’s a Big Deal, but the storybook leaks basically give us a completely different dynamic, one where Rose drags an unwilling Finn around by the collar and scolds him for even trying to leave, and keeps him from leaving by force, and I hate that. I really hate that. It’s like the weak and questionable parts of Finn and Rey’s interaction before Harrison got injured and JJ reshot some stuff and changed their dynamic going forward because the antagonistic stuff wasn’t working. So why copypaste that bad dynamic that JJ already famously decided needed to be fixed? Actually make it worse? Bleh.
Don't get me wrong I didn't like the Rey Attack either I am just saying you can squint and explain where there is nothing that mitigates this one at all in my book. Yeah Finn’s backstory in no way calls for Comic Relief in my book. If they wanted this they never should have used Child Soldier background.
I keep thinking about how we were given the impression that Finn and Rose’s story would be a cool team up and that Rose would think he’s a Big Deal, but the storybook leaks basically give us a completely different dynamic, one where Rose drags an unwilling Finn around by the collar and scolds him for even trying to leave, and keeps him from leaving by force, and I hate that. I really hate that. It’s like the weak and questionable parts of Finn and Rey’s interaction before Harrison got injured and JJ reshot some stuff and changed their dynamic going forward because the antagonistic stuff wasn’t working. So why copypaste that bad dynamic that JJ already famously decided needed to be fixed? Actually make it worse? Bleh.
Basically it just feels because RJ was willing to dickride Kylo Ren and Adam Driver so hard who we know KK loves since Adam didn't even have to audition. RJ got himself Carte Blanche to do whatever he want. I mean JJ is the one who wanted John (and his execution was poor), KK never wanted John at all. So I am not all surprised and what is going down for FInn. Although I should note this is the fucking opposite of how they sold us Finn and Rose in the lead up. Where Rose was a big Fan of Finn. Instead it seems will get another does of a Female Partner outshining Finn until Phasma.
What does surprise me though is KK letting RJ making massive lore changes and retcons to the Force that override fucking George Lucas in the Luke Skywalker part of the plot. That is what surprises me. I knew it was bad sign when RJ got along with KK so well unlike all the other directors and got a new trilogy.
But apparently RJ is genius for Woobyifying another “Bad Boy“ White Male while marginalizing the POC to forgettable plot line and comic relief. Its not like we never seen this shit before. I get enough of the kid glove treatment for white monsters in the news thank you very much.
This doesn’t even make any sense story wise. Every Resistance member knows that Finn risked his life to stop Starkiller Base. Rose suddenly being “what, a traitor” makes zero fucking sense. If Finn wanted to betray the Resistance he would have done nothing and just let the FO blow them out of the sky.
Rian Johnson is willfully stupid when it comes to any of the characters of color but especially to Finn. Of course it makes no sense! But of course he doesn’t care because he’s too busy using his 2 brain cells on creating a fascist-loving white story for his lily white actors! It makes no sense because he doesn’t give a fuck about Finn.
Driver has done less for TLJ then Rose. Harrison Ford who is a rich legit movie star who hates promotion does more work then Driver on promoting Star Wars. Driver really doesn't carry his weight but KK and RJ love him and the fans will apologize for any “pretty white boy” so I guess it doesn't matter. Anyway saw the trailer I was right.
seguun replied to your post “So you ready for the storm to come with the trailer?”
Yes all the marketing so far does suggest that the B-Plot is for POC and insignificant compared to the White Characters and the Force A-Plot. But KK is a Saint and a Champion of Diversity….SMFH. They love Kylo so much then make Driver get his lazy ass out there and promote Star Wars half as much as Boyega does.
I actually saw some Reylo saying that Driver had the “same deal” as Harrison Ford re: promotion. I’m sorry, Harrison was on every ABC show except The Chew (which he should have been on) and every other talk show going not only for the movie but for the damn DVD release. “Same deal”? Not so much.
John Boyega has been to EVERYTHING, been charming and funny - and his reward is that poster? 2 seconds in the trailer?
Indeed Spoilers would be nice. Cannot wait to read. I am especially interested in what the team looks like.