My Thoughts On Why I Think Paul Had A Preference For Men - 

My thoughts on why I think Paul had a preference for men - 

As I discussed in an earlier post, as a young teen Paul found himself attracted to musical theater, which had a very strong gay element attached to it. As he put it, “I used to hang around stage doors, I was a bit of a Stage-Door Johnny. I was so fascinated by all of that stuff. I loved it. I just wanted to be near it. I hung around the stage doors, got to meet the Crew Cuts. I sort of wanted it, wanted it bad.”

He can remember every minute detail from the first time he met John, from the smell of his beery breath, to the feel of John putting his arms around his shoulders. Immediately after meeting this boy, Paul already started planning a life-long partnership with him, figured out how to combine their names, and was doodling pictures of him in his school workbook. This to me is the behavior of a boy who has already come to terms with his attraction to boys, not someone who’s confused, in denial, or unaware of his feelings.

Two of his earliest songs have themes of a forbidden, risky love. At fourteen, he described love as “suicide” and at 15 he’s promising someone he just met that he’ll love them “in spite of all the danger.” 

When he started dating girls, he would pick out all of their outfits and would instruct them on how to style their hair. Yes, this could be interpreted as Paul just wanting his girlfriend to look like Brigitte Bardot, but to me it sounds a lot like something a stereotypical “gay best friend” would do.

He and John went to The Dart, a gay club, together. This, to me, diminishes the common belief around here that Paul thought of himself as “only gay for John” and not actually queer. The fact that he regularly hung out at a gay club implies that Paul felt that he was no different than all of the other gay men there.

Then when the Beatles went to Hamburg, Tony Barrow remembers how he thought Paul was gay “for months.” If Paul was truly sleeping with as many girls in Hamburg as he claimed, why did it take Tony so long to find out that he wasn’t gay?

The fact that Paul was known to use his “bedroom eyes” and “sex appeal” to get what he wanted from Brian implies that this isn’t Paul’s first time flirting with a man in my opinion.

If you trust Simon Napier-Bell’s account, Brian revealed to him that the Beatles had “other boyfriends,” implying someone not within the band. So this could suggest that Paul was casually dating men other than John during his time in the Beatles.

Mid-sixties, Paul once again deliberately placed himself in the artsy gay crowd of London. I find it interesting to say the least that Paul, age fourteen on, has taken every opportunity possible to surround himself with a group of other gay men. First it was the theater, then beatniks, now Swinging London. 

When John dumped Paul in the summer of 1968, Paul seemed to genuinely be contemplating living the rest of his life as a gay man. When he briefly dated Francie Schwartz, he was said to be going off to gay clubs in the middle of the night. In Francie’s book “Body Count,” she recounts a conversation with Billy Lancaster where he asked her, “Really, what’s Paul like?  I heard he was gay.” to which Francie replied, “He might have gone that way but he didn’t.  He didn’t really dig fucking all that much if that’s any kind of an answer.“

And the emotional intensity of Paul’s breakup with John in itself speaks volumes about how Paul values his relationships with men significantly more than the ones he had with women.

Or in a 1970s Tom Snyder interview, Paul was talking about his days as a Beatles, being able to have any one he wanted. He said, “When you’re that age, that’s the thing to do. You’re looking for girls or whatever turns you on.” When Tom asked what the alternative to girls would be, Paul told him “Boys.”

And none of this even touches all of the crazy suggestive quotes and things regarding him and John’s relationship, like when Paul literally said that he and John were one of the first men to come out openly when homosexuality was still illegal (!!!)

I don’t know…there’s probably a lot more I’m forgetting right now but you get the point 

(also this is all purely speculation so please don’t try to come for me)

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4 weeks ago

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My question is, when people have a least favourite beatle, let's say John, because we all know he's not favored in the Beatles fandom, how do you lot avoid them? When you watch interviews or music videos of the Beatles, do you just avoid him as best as you can? Like do you skip parts of the video that you'll know he'll appear in?

I'm just glad that I don't really have a least favourite Beatle, makes my Beatles experience more enjoyable, for me

1 month ago
This Is 10000% Canon I Did Not Make It Up.
This Is 10000% Canon I Did Not Make It Up.
This Is 10000% Canon I Did Not Make It Up.

This is 10000% canon I did not make it up.

4 weeks ago

It's kinda funny when people draw John without lashes because that man had lashes longer than a camel

It's Kinda Funny When People Draw John Without Lashes Because That Man Had Lashes Longer Than A Camel
It's Kinda Funny When People Draw John Without Lashes Because That Man Had Lashes Longer Than A Camel

2 months ago
Paul Doodling Beatles Logos

Paul doodling Beatles logos

The Paris trip, 1961

2 months ago
Sorry For Taking So Long On This Post, I've Been Writing It In My Head For Weeks Trying To Figure Out

Sorry for taking so long on this post, I've been writing it in my head for weeks trying to figure out how to phrase everything. But umm I think Paul was in a bath tub when he was taking certain photos of John.

So the book itself is divided into sections based on location. There's a London section, a Paris section, then they go to New York and then on to Miami, etc. The London section is really interesting and the photos are very revealing IMO. I definitely recommend getting your hands on a physical copy, your local library may have it. This is something you should experience physically because uh. There's a lot of John in here. To me at least it's very obvious how deeply in love Paul was with John.

So imagine for a minute that you're Paul McCartney, and you're in London, England with your best mate.

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The way that journalists are treating this set of photos makes me feel a little insane because so many of them are saying "this is John and Paul backstage!" Y'all, this is not John and Paul backstage. This is John and Paul in their hotel room. Alone.

First off let's look at this:

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Here's John shaving the stubble off his face. Sunglasses still on; John had prescription sunglasses so if he's wearing these then his contacts are not in. Look at the background of this photo:

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John's in the way here but that is a set of curtains in a hotel room! You can tell from the horizontal bar on top, those are to hold the black out curtains. And another thing: I think these are John and Paul's suitcases sitting on top of a wardrobe. Not entirely sure about that though since the image is so grainy.

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At this point John has taken off his sunglasses, he's brushing his teeth and has washed his face. Again, look at the background:

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Sorry For Taking So Long On This Post, I've Been Writing It In My Head For Weeks Trying To Figure Out

This is a medicine cabinet, a storage feature in bathrooms to keep toiletries safe from the humidity caused by a bath and/or shower. I don't know how common these are anymore:

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Sorry For Taking So Long On This Post, I've Been Writing It In My Head For Weeks Trying To Figure Out

What I find interesting about this sequence of photos is that John first pulls a funny face for Paul:

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But then something grabs his attention:

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Spits out the toothpaste:

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And then off John nyooms...making soft eyes at Paul no less.

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Pay close attention to the background on this photo! We're seeing the hotel window from another angle, the horizontal strip at the top is the tell:

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Sorry For Taking So Long On This Post, I've Been Writing It In My Head For Weeks Trying To Figure Out

I outlined the horizontal strip on the curtain and then drew lines on the dips in the fabric so you can compare it to the OG photo:

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Paul is utilizing an interesting run-and-gun style of camera shooting here, he's got John tilted and at an angle that puts John over Paul. Unconsciously signaling something? Let's move on...

According to this strip...

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...this is the next photo in the sequence:

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Again calling attention to more interesting details here:

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John's tie is missing and his shirt is undone. And that looks like a towel in his hands. He's turning in for the night.

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Sorry For Taking So Long On This Post, I've Been Writing It In My Head For Weeks Trying To Figure Out

2. John is standing in front of a reinforced door which are common in hotels but are not common in dressing rooms:

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3. This photo is itself a reflection of John's face that Paul has taken in a mirror, maybe a vanity mirror. Someone in the McLen discord server said it was too small to be a vanity mirror and I'm inclined to agree, so maybe it's a compact or hand mirror propped up on the sink.

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So what does this mean? I think that John and Paul were getting ready for bed, someone knocked on the door, and John went to answer it. You'd think Paul would but for some reason he didn't. Oh and another thing...check out the four jackets in the mirror:

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They're definitely hanging from something so John and Paul were looking out for the suits that night.

Next in the sequence, John is back at the sink washing up. Check out the hotel window curtain being reflected in the mirror there!

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Then something kind of odd happens...John is seen coming back and re-entering the shot again? Through out Eye of the Storm Paul emphasizes a lot of duality with John, including a shot where John reflects on his own sculpted face. Paul was very interested in John doing performing the act of reflection on his own face:

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Sorry For Taking So Long On This Post, I've Been Writing It In My Head For Weeks Trying To Figure Out

But here's the really interesting bit and what makes me think Paul was naked in a bathtub when he took these last two photos:

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Sorry For Taking So Long On This Post, I've Been Writing It In My Head For Weeks Trying To Figure Out

Y'all, that's the fluffy fringe of a towel! You can tell that the threads are hanging down from it! These are very different from the clean lines of the curtain or the medicine cabinet or even the lines of their suit jackets! Paul was sitting in or on the edge of the bath tub when he took these photos of John! He wrapped a towel around his camera to protect it from getting wet! Cameras are generally made for right handed people so when Paul had his finger on the button on the right hand side. That means Paul keeping his finger on that button pushed the edge of the protective towel over the lens!

So I submit to you Paul McCartney's Eye of the Storm, where he submitted a film strip where he was staying in a hotel room with John and was most likely nude and bathing when he took John's photographs! Someone knocked on the door to get their attention while Paul was naked so John answered the door for them, while Paul followed him a little. John was enjoying having Paul right there for him too:

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PLEASE get Eye of the Storm, it's such a great book and there's so much in it. Paul lets the pictures speak for themselves and wow they have one hell of a story to tell!

@perasperaadastratoday

1 week ago
That One Post That @georgefuckinharrison Made About John Lennon Upskirt Pics
That One Post That @georgefuckinharrison Made About John Lennon Upskirt Pics

that one post that @georgefuckinharrison made about john lennon upskirt pics

That One Post That @georgefuckinharrison Made About John Lennon Upskirt Pics
That One Post That @georgefuckinharrison Made About John Lennon Upskirt Pics
That One Post That @georgefuckinharrison Made About John Lennon Upskirt Pics
That One Post That @georgefuckinharrison Made About John Lennon Upskirt Pics
That One Post That @georgefuckinharrison Made About John Lennon Upskirt Pics
1 week ago

Did Paul and Robert have an affair or was that just Tara Browne

there is no hard, tangible evidence that paul had an affair with robert fraser or an affair with tara browne – or any man at all, for that matter. 

i do, however, think that robert and paul did share a special connection. over anything else we can speculate, but this, to me, is fact. i will delve deeper into why i think it was special and what exactly i mean by that in a different post, but i think these quotes illustrate a bit:

Robert represented to me freedom, freedom of speech, of view. [x]

Paul visited Robert’s gallery and would often drop by his flat to see who was there and what was happening. Robert was a superb host; he always mixed the latest drinks, had the best drugs, and a room full of interesting people.Through Robert, Paul entered the world of art; he met Andy Warhol, Claes Oldenburg, Peter Blake and Richard Hamilton and, in the course of listening to their conversations, he learned a great deal about art appreciation.Paul: ‘The most formative influence for me was Robert Fraser. Obviously the other Beatles were very important but the most formative art influence was Robert. I expect people to die so I don’t feel a loss but there’s a vacuum where he used to be.’ [x]

Actually I remember one of the most touching conversations we had was about his mum and dad. I said, ‘My mum died when I was young but I think my dad’s great. He’s a real fine man and I’ve got a lot of respect for him and I’m not ashamed to admit it.’ Feeling slight peer pressure as I did admit it. And he said, ‘Well uh uh uhg. I feel the same way about my mother. I love my parents!’ and we had a little moment where we both admitted we loved our parents, which then was not the kind of thing you did. I don’t think I ever had it with the Beatles, it certainly was not a common thing. [x]

Paul saw a lot of Robert during 1966 and in the period leading up to the release of Sgt. Pepper in 1967.PAUL: The way Robert lived, which became the way I lived for a couple of years and which I now figure for a rather aristocratic way of life, would be that he’d ring early in the day and say, ‘What are we doing for dinner tonight?’ It all hinged round dinner. Once he’d had dinner fixed, then he could fill in the rest of the day. It all worked around the event. Robert generally liked to eat down Chelsea: King’s Road, Fulham Road area. The San Lorenzo, the Trattoria.As well as dinner or hanging out at Mount Street, Paul would often put in an appearance at the gallery. ‘Once I got to know Robert, a nice thing would be going to the gallery and helping install an exhibition. Just sit around and smoke a bit of pot while somebody else was installing the exhibition. Helping. Play a little music for him.’  [x]

In my garden at Cavendish Avenue, which was a 100-year-old house I’d bought, Robert was a frequent visitor.One day he got a hold of a Magritte he thought I’d love. Being Robert, he would just get it and bring it.  I was out in the garden with some friends. I think I was filming Mary Hopkin with a film crew, just getting her to sing live in the garden, with bees and flies buzzing around, high summer. We were in the long grass, very beautiful, very country-like. We were out in the garden and Robert didn’t want to interrupt so when we went back in the big door from the garden to the living room, there on the table he’d just propped up this little Magritte. It was of a green apple. That became the basis of the Apple logo. Across the painting Magritte had written in that beautiful handwriting of his ‘Au Revoir’. And Robert had split.I thought that was the coolest thing anyone’s ever done with me. When I saw it, I just thought: ‘Robert.’ Nobody else could have done that. [x]  

So, some time early in 1966, Paul and Robert flew to Paris. They checked into the Plaza Athenee on the Avenue Montaigne in the heart of haute-couture Paris, one of the most fashionable and snobbish hotels in France. Going on a trip with Robert caused a few comments from Paul’s friends. PAUL: “Because he was gay, it raised a few small-minded eyebrows and funnily enough, one or two of them were from within the Beatles: ‘Hey, man, he’s gay, what you going off to Paris with him for? They’re gonna talk, you know. Tongues are going to wag.’ I said, ‘I know tongues are going to wag, but tough shit.’” [x]

There were many good times in Robert’s flat. Through my Beatle connections I’d hire a 16mm projector for the evening […] and I started off with Wizard of Oz.Robert got into this, wow, and he’d get some art movies. We got a lot of Bruce Connors, showed a lot of that. It was a very exciting period. [x]

Robert’s flat was like a second gallery. He had a lot of Dubuffet around that he was trying to sell. I wasn’t too interested in him. He had a lot of stuff by Paolozzi, and I bought a big chrome sculpture which was called Solo, which was in the big Pop Art exhibition they had about two years ago at the Tate. I just said, ‘What is that, Robert?’ Fantastic. He said, ‘What is it? I don’t know. It’s a mantelpiece, a bit of a car, who knows?’I was very happy with that attitude, not too academic. There was no dour art talk. It was much more razzy, loose, lively discussion with him. [x]

They [Paul and Robert] happened to come to the studio one night and were just on a trip, you know, they were seeing things that weren’t there–seeing colours and seeing things that simply weren’t there. [x]

Robert could play the academic game quite easily, he was very knowledgeable, but I think he found it a bit boring. It wasn’t our scene, being academic. I’ve heard him hold his own with academics, but that wasn’t the buzz. The buzz was more of a mixture, a cross-over with musicians, etc.He turned me on to quite a few things, quite a few artists. We went down once on an impulse to see Takis, the great sculptor who did things with tank aerials with little lights on the end. That sort of thing was great.We’d just turn up at someone’s studio, smoke a bit of pot, sit around and just chat art. [x]

i have a lot more quotes in my tag, if you are interested and want to form your own picture of their relationship.

to me, if we see john as paul’s connection to music, robert was his connection to art. 

3 months ago
CBS News' London Correspondent Alexander Kendrick Witnesses One Of The Most Awkward Moments Between John
CBS News' London Correspondent Alexander Kendrick Witnesses One Of The Most Awkward Moments Between John

CBS News' London correspondent Alexander Kendrick witnesses one of the most awkward moments between John Lennon and Paul McCartney ever captured on film. The Beatles appearing on CBS News, 22nd November 1963 (x)

4 days ago
John Lennon & George Harrison In Amsterdam, Netherlands | 6 June 1964 © Harry Benson; Leslie Bryce
John Lennon & George Harrison In Amsterdam, Netherlands | 6 June 1964 © Harry Benson; Leslie Bryce

John Lennon & George Harrison in Amsterdam, Netherlands | 6 June 1964 © Harry Benson; Leslie Bryce

5 months ago

Can you recommended fanfics with Dom Paul please?

Okay, here are some of my own: 

Understanding 

Father’s Day (daddy-kink)

Control (drabble)

Who’s Your Daddy, Johnny Boy (daddy-kink)

Rough, Biting, Scratch (not the whole sex-scene, sorry) 

Shy (not kinky, just top-Paul. It’s actually really sweet and fluffy, but it’s still top!Paul so…)

Over the Desk (again, not the whole sex-scene…)

Naked/Dressed (not very dom/sub, but still top!Paul)

Clothed Getting Off (not that dom/sub, but it’s close)

Here are some more that have Dom Paul, but it’s McHarrison: 

Back Alley Wall

Sore Wrists 

Also one Paul/Ringo fic:

Good Boy, Ringo

Here are some other McLennon fics with Dom Paul that aren’t mine:

James 

Discipline 

That’s all I know of. There aren’t that many Top!Paul fics, and even less with Dom Paul. At least you’ve got a couple now. If anyone else knows of one, let me know! <3

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