Oh Dear, That Atrocious Theory Was One Of The Worst Parts Of Living The Final Arc In Real Time. I Can't

I guess AFO would be equivalent to that leader guy of the Team Rocket, always failing on get valuable and rare pokemons because of his dumbass goons (the lov).

And I remember seeing long ago a comparision between Nine and MewTwo, which let me thinking about how both characters would interact. It would be interesting for sure.

Geten being the third wheel in every universe is destiny it seems. Meanwhile his bro and Izu are happy doing their own thing.

Any crossover between MHA and other franchise you like?

Hi @nyc3 funny you ask me this bc I was thinking about an au where Izumi is in a pokemon world. Srsly!

Izumi is a poke trainer, she has eevees and eeveelutions (I think it fits here. One Eevee can be anything just like Izumi)

And well Cinder menages to steal a gym becaming a gym leader (people like him better lol) and well, things happen.

On a broad side, I don't have much crossovers for mha. They work fine as they are...they just need a good writing.

If I had a nickel for everytime Johnny Yong Bosch voiced a badass white haired character with big pecs who ends being experimented in a tube I will have two nickels...

And I wish it happens more often

This is such a specific niche of characters I love.

I do actually share some concepts presented here in my vision for MHA.

Always found baffling how Horikoshi clearly shows the quirk doomsday theory as something very real, but at the same time every character who brings the topic has to be irremediable crazy and with no reedeming qualities so naturally the heroes wouldn't take the issue seriously and the status quo persist (Yeah Horikoshi is subtle about his agenda there).

Aside of your idea of the childrends dying for their bodies not being able to support their strong quirks, canon actually shows us how fucked up the lives of certain individuals can be purely because of their quirks and no "muh society" like the LOV. I mean one of Chisaki’s goons the one who eats everything is implied to be crazy because his quirk makes him desparate to ingest anything similar to Moonfish, or that civilian from Team Up mission who's body produces a toxic gas he has no control over and can kill him, so he has to live alone and far away from other people in a special house.

There's crazy untaped potential in the doomsday theory, and in my vision I use this for give Chisaki a more nuanced objective as aside of getting power for the yakuza he also grows to want do something for revert the possible end uo human kind due quirks.

I guess our versions of Overhaul are also pretty different...

Not against the idea of Midoriya beating Muscular with other than brute force, as the whole point of his canon character should be that he's supposed to be smart and a great strategist but most of the time he wins just because he can punch hard which is disappointing af. If you could elavorate on how she would defeat Goto I'm intersted on learn.

Also I hope something more can happen between them, because I read some stories that give Goto (Muscular) more characterization and his relationship with Midoriya have an interesting twist because he or she brings Goto more human side to the table.

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A brief synopsis of my rework for Katsuma is that is teenager of 16s in this story rather than a little kid, but he also comes out as trans woman at that age after starting her hero studies. And Katsuma who is an actual pupil of Edgeshot in this story, not only was instructed since young age in several combat disciplines aside of shinobi ninja style, but she choose a butterfly theme for herself being symbolic to change.

I imagine Katsuma (she doesn't change her name) wearing a beautiful haori with the shape of butterfly wings, a homage to Shinobu Kocho from KNY obviously, and she also has two small butterfly tatoos one on her belly and the other close to her chest. Do you pick the reference?

Katsuma eventual meeting and relationship with Nine is also the heart of my vision of the story, just like arguably their dynamic is what makes Heroes Rising plot happen in canon.

I'm not even the biggest fan of Dabi in terms of looks, but always found very weird how the anime constantly makes him look way more defined and with bigger muscles than he has in the manga.

Isn't a bit contradictory for his character to look super ripped? Horikoshi clearly drawn Dabi in that specific way because the story makes emphasis on his body being more frail due having a weak constitution, also contrasting him to the rest of mens in the family who got the big and strong constitution of Enji, Natsuo especially. The anime just lose all the meaning behind that.

And this is more of a personal preference but I find Dabi's body in the manga to look much more attractive and less generic than in the anime. Skinny guys can look attractive as well.

Hi @nyc3

Thanks for the ask bc it's so fitting as I was thinking about how the fandom sees dabi and mr. Possum.

Let me start with this. Have you seen how in the Tumblr the tags of dabi x reader and shig x reader there a HUGE contrast in quality? Shig is depicted as a creepy and weirdo incel while Dabi IS "I'LL STEAL YOUR WIFE😏"

now on a controversial take. I do like the idea of dabi losing his scars. Why? Would increase his quality of life...I find odd how everyone in LoV accepts Dr. Evil's word and never try to take a second opinion. Also, without the scars Dabi would look way more like Endy making his claim be more powerful.

(not a fan of erasing Shig's scars nor the "crusty" jokes. Shig is handsome with his scars)

Now onto your ask: I think Bones just like to make characters hot in a conventional way, JJK men got to be hotter than the manga. But I do notice how bones lacks in translate the manga to anime. Some of the scenes of the manga were done so dirty.

Dabi became hotter aka buffer bc of this. Btw, many dabi x reader like to make the reader have a healing quirk (it should be a trope by now) just so it can heal dabi...which no one account that dabi IS self destructive, a healing quirk is nice but he would do again...unless he changes his mindset (I'm trying to explore this in my fic called besties)

Ask yourself: did shig NEEDED to be buffaraki? Was afo the quirk really need you to be buff?

(was necessary for Izu to gain muscles? Maybe, maybe not)

So to answer: Dabi is attractive in any shape. His writing trumps over shig any day even if shig IS more attractive than Dabi.

You know? The amount or plot holes and inconsistencies originated from the reveal of Shigaraki being Tenko Shimura almost makes me think Horikoshi didn't originally conceived Tomura as related to Nana, but it actually was a late idea added without any proper context.

Notice how also unlike Dabi's reveal as Touya Todoroki, there's zero hints of the real identity of Shigaraki prior Kamino and even after it really doesn't change anything story wise. The reveal is just there to make AFO a more pety and sick bastard for taking the grandson of Nana, but Shigaraki could have been the grandson of anyone else it would change nothing. Does it change his relationship with Deku for example? Not really, Deku would have the same reaction for any kid.

Not even A.M gets an interesting reaction out of this beyond the inital shock.

One thing that is now unfair to ask is...what is Nine's name? Look hori treated him as an afterthought but his lack of origins works better than the comical twnko's origins.

Yes his family was all killed thanks to him but ...I can't help to think that scene was too ridiculous.

We never saw anyone mentioned them again, not even shig. (He remembers them in MVA and we do see the disgusting human puppet hori flay around) But that's it.

So Nine...

Im not one of those people who think a new character needs to be related to a pre stabelished one. Nine doesn't need to be a Todoroki, Shimura or hell even a lost Midoriya (hahahahahahaha as if hori would care for this family)

But ....imagine if Nine was related to Oboro, somehow, wouldn't that be interesting?

Maybe, maybe not.

Oboro's character became a thing to turns Aizawa into a better character...and fails. Kuro was sacrificed for nothing.

The thing about Shigaraki/Tenko backstory is that it feels... a bit overdramatic?

Well we can say that about his whole character, but the part of his backstory in particular when he kills his family is so exagerated for the sake of shock value that it kinda feels comical.

Horikoshi tried a bit too hard on make MVA feel like the edgier and "different" arc of the series, but the contrast in so big that I can't take it seriously.

Especially when Hori already nailed a dark tone without being super explicit or over the top.

Take the simplicity of Eri's backstory for example:

No blood, no unnecessary violence, just two panels giving a basic idea of what happened to Eri's father and yet the image of those clothes lying on the floor is much more haunting and eerie than the enterity of Shigaraki backstory.

Why Horikoshi stop being subtle with his storytelling?

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Anyway going back to Nine real name, or the lack of one, I think it's interesting how that aspect of his character adds to the underlying theme of how AFO and Garaki dehumanize people, especially the ones that are part of their experiments.

We know very well how AFO doesn't view other human being as persons but rather objects that belong to him. This starts with his very own twin brother, which name Yoichi means something like "my first possesion".

And just like Nine, number 6 from Vigilantes was a child which whole life was modeled by AFO. They both are just numbers without a real name.

In this case the idea is presented even more explicitly because Six was a child who suffered some kind of amnesia and couldn't even view himself as a normal human with a face.

He even died as a monster without ever know if he had an identity outside being the number 6.

It's funny how you mention the idea of Nine and Shirakumo being connected somehow, as isn't the first time I've hear that.

It's interesting notice how they share this common theme about sky and clouds as part of who they are (Nine's name also is supposedly a reference to the term "cloud nine") both Nine and Oboro are individuals willing to sacrifice their own lifes for others, and ironically both of them ended being experimented by Dr Garaki.

I even have the headcanon of Kurogiri being the "Number 7" in this line of experiments were Nine and Six belong, as sort of missing link between Six and the sentient nomus.

I probably should make a post later explaining better this idea.

And yes for Horikoshi, Shirakumo was just a diposable character to make Aizawa look cooler and more edgy.

While the author of Vigilantes clearly invested a lot of effort on making Oboro a real and memorable character which complements Aizawa rather than just being an accesory. But that topic deserves it's own post as well.

P.S: I have an idea of what real name we could give to Nine, but I keep it for me at least for the moment.

Feel free to use any of my ideas for your AU if you want! And adapt them to your style, as you probably would put a better use than me.

That includes the names for Cider.

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I already love your own ideas for develop their relationship since their meet. Their teamwork and the way the gain mutual respect.

And the whole concept of Cider/Mizunami having a "Oh no, he's hot" moment is pure gold.

Just imagine if his mask breaks and he takes the parts off showing his face cover in dirt, sweat and a bit of blood after a that fight which he wins. All this in front of of Izumi who will be dying inside by the view of so much testosterone lol.

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Geten being illiterate might be actually canon, as Horikoshi explained he never go to a school and rather trained his quirk all his life. And that's kinda sad if you think about it.

He really is the perfect child soldier, coming from a family like the Himuras who are elitist jerks obssesed with status and power (and they even practice inbreeding between their clans) capable of sell their members like objects no matter the gender as both him and Rei were sold very young for different porpuse. And Geten was sold to a quirk elitist maniac who probably brainwashed him into serve to the ideology of a guy from 300 years ago, and Re-Destro is okay with Geten not having any kind of education apparently.

Yeah that's a rough life for sure...

But also a gold mine for interactions!

Especially between him and his biological family.

In my AU all the Todoroki kids, Geten and Cider are cousins by the Himura side, at some point all them should be reunited in one way or another. Think about that sweet drama...

The parallels you made between Mizunami and Geten are brilliant. Hope it can develop into a good dynamic in which both can lear from each other rather than just being enemies.

The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.

Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)

Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)

Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.

(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)

Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.

Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.

Lol

(I love a good mask reveal!)

I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?

Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.

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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.

They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.

Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.

And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.

Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.

Dumb but cute 🫠

You really hit the nail!

I also imagine that on a more serious note all the kids would be afraid of the public backlash, but not for them themselves but their boyfriends who they think would face the consecuences if they mess up the things.

What they don't know if that each one of their lovers couldn’t care less about the public opinion, and even if it becames public before they graduate, the pros will always support and love their kids no matter what. It's until the last consecuence for them.

Also somehow you got right in all my headcanons about bakushot. Starting by the fact B.J is the best pal ever and he totally supports his bestie and his dear students dating.

Shinya manage to tame Katsuki with a lot of tea, aromatic scent, and many kisses as rewards. Lol he totally love the explosive personality and passion of Katsuki anyway.

Hawks also would totally made a joke about how both of them are shorties dating tall boys from Class A, and he would be the most smug about the many wonders and archievements of Shoto in front of the group. And while Shinya is usually pure humbles this time he couldn't resist say something like "Shoto is such a wonderful boy, but Katsuki still winned that sport fest" which drives Hawks crazy.

Meanwhile Aizawa and A.M just chill with their bunny and kitty.

I have this silly scenario in my head where after officially starting to date, Hawks decides to take Shoto to the beachs of Okinawa for a private vacation on the summer of his 2nd year, where they don't have to hide their feelings because none of their friends or coworkers are present...

Until in the reception of a couples-only hotel they walk straight into Katsuki and Edgeshot holding hands (promise rings included) and shit goes down.

Bakugou of course starts yelling like crazy, while the others are dead silent.

Hawks: I promise is undercover work!

Then Aizawa and Shinso walk into the reception of the hotel holding hands as well.

Shota: Undercover what?

Edgeshot: I think we're going to need a lot of tea for explain this...

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At least the vacations ain't going to be boring

AWWW they're so dumb 😭

I love when the kids are all dating their mentors and don't know bc they're all trying to keep it a secret.

I like to think the kids all take it very seriously because they would never want to jeopardize their boyfriend's careers but...the adults all know about each other. Hawks definitely (unsubtly) pestered Aizawa for details about Shoto early on. Jeanist helped pick out the promise rings, more impressed that Edgeshot tamed this boy in the first place if anything. Aizawa doesn't like socializing with them but he appreciates having an outlet to show off pictures of how Hitoshi sleeps curled in on himself like a little kitten.

The kids are all freaking the fuck out meanwhile the pros are just like "Were Yagi and Midoriya coming?" "Their flight got delayed unfortunately..."

AFO users under dramatic lighting 🤍

Lowkey is like from top to bottom they go from less deranged to most deranged.

However, I do wonder how and why AFO came to the conclusion that he needed a vessel powered by hate to steal OFA.

Like I know it's established that the will of OFA prevents the quirk from being stoled, but how AFO even knows that info?

Isn't like there was a moment in which AFO tried to steal OFA but the will thing rule prevented it. All the times he failed on steal the quirk it was because it was already passed to someone else and the previous user was running on the embers.

The only time something like this this happens is when Nine tried to steal the quirk from Deku in the movie, yet Nine interpret it as lack of starage space in his own copy (for obvious reasons he's not aware of the existence of the vestiges).

I feel this is kind of a plot hole unless I'm missing something.

And yet despite add super regen to AFO original body was pointless (dabatable) after the face injury, not doing it before getting his skull smashed still feels like a dumb move.

Yeah body failing and all, but with regen AFO would still pretty much invencible in the meanwhile as his new body was getting ready.

Not to mention, now we have the confirmation they copied Overhaul from young Kai but instead of use its healing properties to full extent they just used the quirk to create Decay makes all the plan seem even more stupid. How tf AFO and Ujiko would waste such a god tier like Overhaul on making it more shitty by getting rid of the best effect?

What are the reasons why All For One wanting a successor before his Injury? This is a question that I have never seen before so may give some reason why I think he might have done it: One is that "Life Force" Quirk may be reaching it's end. The possibility that it may end soon is big problem for All For One so he is planning to get a younger body like Orochimaru or a better Quirk to keep him young then "Live Force". Two is, and I don't know where it comes from, but in the Wiki, it says that "All For One's body cannot properly contain Quirks of newer generations,". So he might be afraid he might not be able to gain more power anymore in the future. So what do you think?

You're half right. All For One's body was failing, both in lifespan and function, because extensively damaged by All Might. So damaged that not even "Super Regeneration" couldn't fix him and he had to be on constant life support. And it was stated by Garaki that All For One was having trouble with Quirks of the newer generation. That he had a harder time controlling the more complex Quirks. Both of those could be a factor. That All For One wanted an immortal body to rule the world forever, giving and taking whatever Quirk he wanted. However, the successor plan was in motion decades before his injury and there wasn't anyone who was a threat to his empire. The real reason was because he wanted to use Tomura's hatred to get "One For All". "One For All" was annoying at first, but was becoming a major problem to All For One, to the point that it ended up killing him. He couldn't beat the person who had it and he couldn't take it either. So he wanted to build up and use Tomura's hatred to take "One For All", finally ridding him of the biggest obstacle in his path.

The resemblance was subtle as a brick to the head:

Lol, but also Nine got a lot of traits from AFO as well. He's like their perfect mix.

Yet I can't help but wish the story actually did something with all this parallels between Nine and the shigabros. There's a lot of stuff implied but nothing really explored.

Nine is such a great character and his existence could've added a lot of the story of AFO and Yoichi.

MHA fans shouldn't ignore how beautiful Nine is.

Have you seen how gorgeous this man looks?

He should be bring into conversations about the most pretty male character more often.

Especially when Horikoshi draws him.

I don't think this need more explanation, Nine is something else.