You know? The amount or plot holes and inconsistencies originated from the reveal of Shigaraki being Tenko Shimura almost makes me think Horikoshi didn't originally conceived Tomura as related to Nana, but it actually was a late idea added without any proper context.
Notice how also unlike Dabi's reveal as Touya Todoroki, there's zero hints of the real identity of Shigaraki prior Kamino and even after it really doesn't change anything story wise. The reveal is just there to make AFO a more pety and sick bastard for taking the grandson of Nana, but Shigaraki could have been the grandson of anyone else it would change nothing. Does it change his relationship with Deku for example? Not really, Deku would have the same reaction for any kid.
Not even A.M gets an interesting reaction out of this beyond the inital shock.
One thing that is now unfair to ask is...what is Nine's name? Look hori treated him as an afterthought but his lack of origins works better than the comical twnko's origins.
Yes his family was all killed thanks to him but ...I can't help to think that scene was too ridiculous.
We never saw anyone mentioned them again, not even shig. (He remembers them in MVA and we do see the disgusting human puppet hori flay around) But that's it.
So Nine...
Im not one of those people who think a new character needs to be related to a pre stabelished one. Nine doesn't need to be a Todoroki, Shimura or hell even a lost Midoriya (hahahahahahaha as if hori would care for this family)
But ....imagine if Nine was related to Oboro, somehow, wouldn't that be interesting?
Maybe, maybe not.
Oboro's character became a thing to turns Aizawa into a better character...and fails. Kuro was sacrificed for nothing.
The thing about Shigaraki/Tenko backstory is that it feels... a bit overdramatic?
Well we can say that about his whole character, but the part of his backstory in particular when he kills his family is so exagerated for the sake of shock value that it kinda feels comical.
Horikoshi tried a bit too hard on make MVA feel like the edgier and "different" arc of the series, but the contrast in so big that I can't take it seriously.
Especially when Hori already nailed a dark tone without being super explicit or over the top.
Take the simplicity of Eri's backstory for example:
No blood, no unnecessary violence, just two panels giving a basic idea of what happened to Eri's father and yet the image of those clothes lying on the floor is much more haunting and eerie than the enterity of Shigaraki backstory.
Why Horikoshi stop being subtle with his storytelling?
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Anyway going back to Nine real name, or the lack of one, I think it's interesting how that aspect of his character adds to the underlying theme of how AFO and Garaki dehumanize people, especially the ones that are part of their experiments.
We know very well how AFO doesn't view other human being as persons but rather objects that belong to him. This starts with his very own twin brother, which name Yoichi means something like "my first possesion".
And just like Nine, number 6 from Vigilantes was a child which whole life was modeled by AFO. They both are just numbers without a real name.
In this case the idea is presented even more explicitly because Six was a child who suffered some kind of amnesia and couldn't even view himself as a normal human with a face.
He even died as a monster without ever know if he had an identity outside being the number 6.
It's funny how you mention the idea of Nine and Shirakumo being connected somehow, as isn't the first time I've hear that.
It's interesting notice how they share this common theme about sky and clouds as part of who they are (Nine's name also is supposedly a reference to the term "cloud nine") both Nine and Oboro are individuals willing to sacrifice their own lifes for others, and ironically both of them ended being experimented by Dr Garaki.
I even have the headcanon of Kurogiri being the "Number 7" in this line of experiments were Nine and Six belong, as sort of missing link between Six and the sentient nomus.
I probably should make a post later explaining better this idea.
And yes for Horikoshi, Shirakumo was just a diposable character to make Aizawa look cooler and more edgy.
While the author of Vigilantes clearly invested a lot of effort on making Oboro a real and memorable character which complements Aizawa rather than just being an accesory. But that topic deserves it's own post as well.
P.S: I have an idea of what real name we could give to Nine, but I keep it for me at least for the moment.
I think you aren't a shipper but considering our last talk...I wonder
What you think about dabi x Mirko?
Its just....if Mirko has to be shipped with a villain, dabi could work. Now it doesn't mean it will be a sweet romance...it think it would be dark. A one night stand type of deal where dabi thinks Mirko is as villainous as he is (she likes to beat up villains, she goes for the kill)
I just wondering here bc I've seen some arts and fics of them and...got my attention
Also...god I love your interpretation of Dabi x Burnin hahaha. He fucks her in hopes to get infos...gets useless infos (till the very last second where she reveal rather blase smth essential)
Oh but I do like shipping, is just I don't have anything worth to post about the ships I like (for now).
That being said Mirko isn't a character I'm very invested, but considering how popular she's overall obviously there's a lot of ships with her. For some reason many people love ship her with Shigaraki... ew why that's even a thing?
I never seen any Mirko x Dabi content but it can't be as bad as that other. And she would probably dominate Dabi which is always a plus to see.
Perhaps the only Mirko ship that got my interest a bit is her and Rappa, mainly because the fun chemistry they got in Vigilantes. We can considerer him an time to time villain?
That idea about Burnin came out of nowhere really, her chaotic personality just make this kind of situations write themselves. She's also the kind of person who could drive mr. edgelord crazy because he can't stand her energy.
This is insane
7 to 3
I now have prints available of this piece here!
I sort of love the idea of Cider being the kind of guy which mindset is "Thiefs used to have standards" while he beats the shit out of Compress.
I think he and Gentle would actually appreciate each other moral codes.
Nagant is the team? I usually pair her with the Shie Hassaikai, because her interactions with Chisaki make me appreciate her more, but I get the idea of her being with other villains with morals.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
If you talk about deep comic lore about X-Men, then I don't really know.
While I love X-Men as a concept for a superhero group (probably my favorites on that sense) my only experience with them are the live action movies and some of the animated series. So I don't know that specific character you mention there, but there's other similar characters to Shigaraki with similar decay powers that are much better writen than him, for example Polka-Dot Man (from the James Gunn S.S movie at least).
I wish we could get more of the gay twincest between AFO and Yoichi, but well don't think Shonen Jump would allow HK to get away with that even if he wants.
Nine and Midoriya really are perfect foils for each other in canon. I wonder how your version will play out.
And one of the funniest part abot Bakugou fans is how obviously they're mostly new anime fans and Bakugou is super dope for them only because they don't know anything better. But the rest of the anitweet community always make fun of them because there's tons of characters that do the same as Bakugou but far better.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
Feel free to use any of my ideas for your AU if you want! And adapt them to your style, as you probably would put a better use than me.
That includes the names for Cider.
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I already love your own ideas for develop their relationship since their meet. Their teamwork and the way the gain mutual respect.
And the whole concept of Cider/Mizunami having a "Oh no, he's hot" moment is pure gold.
Just imagine if his mask breaks and he takes the parts off showing his face cover in dirt, sweat and a bit of blood after a that fight which he wins. All this in front of of Izumi who will be dying inside by the view of so much testosterone lol.
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Geten being illiterate might be actually canon, as Horikoshi explained he never go to a school and rather trained his quirk all his life. And that's kinda sad if you think about it.
He really is the perfect child soldier, coming from a family like the Himuras who are elitist jerks obssesed with status and power (and they even practice inbreeding between their clans) capable of sell their members like objects no matter the gender as both him and Rei were sold very young for different porpuse. And Geten was sold to a quirk elitist maniac who probably brainwashed him into serve to the ideology of a guy from 300 years ago, and Re-Destro is okay with Geten not having any kind of education apparently.
Yeah that's a rough life for sure...
But also a gold mine for interactions!
Especially between him and his biological family.
In my AU all the Todoroki kids, Geten and Cider are cousins by the Himura side, at some point all them should be reunited in one way or another. Think about that sweet drama...
The parallels you made between Mizunami and Geten are brilliant. Hope it can develop into a good dynamic in which both can lear from each other rather than just being enemies.
The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.
Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)
Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)
Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.
(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)
Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.
Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.
Lol
(I love a good mask reveal!)
I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?
Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.
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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.
They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.
Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.
And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.
Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.
His hair blowing by the wind...
Nine is too gorgeous.
How cinder enters the world of crime? I know this feels a simplistic question but it also can adds layers to world building. Like, say he was kicked out of the Himura household at 15...what he would do? Join a crime organization right away?
Assuming someone took him in. Did he wanted do crimes or was his only option?
I ask this bc...many Himuras we see are either in shitty situations or in crimes. Rei did endure a crime against her. Geten is an attack dog and Mizumi is the leader of a gang(benevolent as they all may be...it's still a gang)
And my final question (s)
How Cinder reacts to possum? See, possum wants destruction for the sake of destruction and anyone sane would say "fuck you" to that. Even if Cinder was a malicious and evil person...there was nothing to gain with Shig. (I HC many capable villains scoff and turn down working with LoV even if they are fans of Stain. Dabi is the best one and to this day I don't get why he joins LoV.)
Would Cinder and Nine be on good terms or enemies?
I mean, when you're kicked out of your house to survive in the streets isn't like you get many options.
My guess is that Mizunami started from the bottom working for some low tier gang before leave and form his own group, aka the Cider House gang.
For the moment I can't give a more fleshed out answer to that specific question, but considering Mizunami aptitude after the prison break we can assume he at least enjoys being free comit crimes as robbery as much he wants, despite having a more noble side by avoid harm civilians. Perhaps he got the habit with the years, don't know really.
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No villain with an IQ of more than 2 digits would find Shigaraki a worthy option to work with, and we know Cider is way to smart for that.
If you think about it, not even the MLA soldiers actually liked Shigaraki as their new leader. They were pretty much against it but stayed loyal only because Re-Destro (a bigger idiot) suddlenly became Shigaraki number 1 bootlicker.
Why Dabi joined lov? Because Horikoshi wanted his dumb villain group but didn’t even bother to write a believable reason for that.
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I would say Mizunami and Nine would be in neutral terms all things considered.
Cider would find Nine to be way more dangerous than Shigaraki, because unlike crusty boy Nine is man with strong convictions and capable to do way more damage. And also his ideology remind Mizunami to his brother Geten, which isn't q good signal.
But from Nine side I don't think he would mind Cider that much. As unlike Re-Destro who has a similar mindset and will kill you for not join his cause, Nine doesn't seem to mind of people following him or no, after all his ideal world is one in which the strongest rule but he doesn't harm the weaks just because he can (as he didn't kill the heroes he stealed quirks or Katsuma dad for example).h
Unhinged observation
And now we have the tiddy-popping, abs-showing, whoring man himself Sanemi tits-mcghee Shinazugawa
We've got the infamous shot
Then this like wtffffffff? Anime-only mind youuuuu!
I dunno about y'all but this counts as fanservice to me
Imagine being the person tasked with lovingly inking Sanemi's abs lol
Sanemi isn't in this scene but Sanemi's tiddies are hehe
Same thing here, there's no need for this shot but ok 😂, Giyuu couldn't handle it so he had to dip
This is such a trad malewife pose lol, complete with the subby demeanor and the tiddy presentation. Giyuu is crying, screaming, throwing up 😭
Then there's this too, oof that waist!!!!
Then there's his official art like what's with that expression??? Hmmmmmmm??? Tryna rizz up the whole fanbase
To be continued!!
Headcanons for YoDeku/DekuYo? How do they maintain their relationship, knowing that they are both in different schools?
Oh isn't easy to maintain a relationship when they live decently far from each other and assist to different schools, but that just make them put much more effort on make it work and appreciate more every bit of time they got to be together. Neither Midoriya or Shindo give up easily, so they will do their best until both are free of school and can work on the same agency or something.
So for the headcanon I have:
-I like the idea of them starting to know each other better during that training between U.A and Ketsubutsu that Ms.Joke proposed to Aizawa but finally never happened in canon despite he accepted (I wonder why Horikoshi cut that idea). Shindo give the proper thanks to Midoriya for save his life during the license program of course, something we didn't see.
-They would have a small battle in which Yo teases Izuku a lot, because Yo being Yo, and Izuku obviously will fall for that and he pays way too much attention to Shindo's costume which start getting distracting.
-Something isn't entirely my headcanon cause I see a lot of other YoDeku shippers do, is the idea of Shindo being the person who makes Midoriya start getting out of shell and feel more comfortable with himself. I love how YoDeku shippers unlike many others don't portray Midoriya a super shy and almost dumb person just to fit the "uke" stereotype, and instead Izuku can act like a normal teen around Yo and feel free to share his geek interest for example without being mocked for that.
-This one is indeed my own, and it's that in the canon timeline after the 2nd war when Midoriya is recovering in the hospital Yo rush to visit his bf (yes they're official at that point) and covers him in kisses, getting a good happy laugh from Izuku. Especially after Shindo starts kissing his cheek scars non stop.
-Yo also kiss the scar Izu have in the head and comments he totally loves Midoriya "new hairstyle". Izuku isn't totally convinced about this though, and while he doesn't say it louder he wonders if Yo is making fun of him for his hair.
-But then the day Izuku is leaving the hospital and is received by Shindo he gets shocked because... Yo shaved a side of his own head, the exact same Izuku got shaved.
-Shindo is all happy and joyful and he says "Did you think I was joking? Nah I totally love your look Zuku, and we still match ;)" (joke about them having the same hairstyle, and they will still match even post shave lol).
-Needless to say, Izuku almost pass out because how loved he felt for that.
-Btw Shindo uses "Zuku" as a cute bf nickname for Midoriya. Izuku meanwhile still tries to figure how call Shindo but he's not that good with nicknames, yet Yo makes clear that he loves when Izuku calls him "Yo-Kun".
-Another headcanon that is almost a cliche among YoDeku shippers is Yo using his vibration quirk to be the personal masajist of Izuku, who after so many damage to his muscles is going to need that sweet treatment more than ever. And of boy, he's blessed by that.
-But hey! Izuku can also uses his quirks for good and improve their relationship, cause (spicy bit ahead) Shindo really loves the power games and being restrained by Izuku using black whip when they got intimate, which belive me they do it everytime they can (they're really horny for each other).
-On time Midoriya also asked Shindo if he would like try using GearShift to go faster during sex. Yo loves experiment so obviously accepted, and the result was so good that it became obligatory everytime thay have sex.
-Eventually they also discovered the way to incorporate Fa-Jin and Float into the mix, with results beyond words lol.
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I have many other headcanons, but these are some of the ones I can remember right know.
YoIzu is one of my favorite ships ever and it has crazy potential, sadly bkdks hate Shindo and our ship.
But hey they will never have the pride of Izuku carrying Shindo bride style twice lol.
On the seltzer bunny 🐰 fic I finally have an outline for the first chapter. And yes, Cinder does make an appearance. Ok my idea is basically Izumi makes Aldera her first target.
It doesn't make a big target if you see with western eyes but in Japan, teachers are respected so...Izumi showing how aldera is corrupt is a big deal, many eyes are on her and aldera.
Izumi's crimes:
Breaking in
Invasion of propriety
Identity thief
Hacking
But she exposes Aldera as it is. She ruins their lives as they ruined hers and the others. No Redestro is used nor they are anti QUIRKLESS...here they are willing to sacrifice everyone for BK (and BK is ranking bellow Mineta) and didn't spare a second (hm, this au is set UA is a colleague and they DO use the image of the students to create polls and whatnot.
You read that right ...Bk ranks bellow Mineta.
The first thing in this chapter is how Izumi is walking among the rain. She is wet and I do like this small nudge to the talks we had about what would tease Cinder...Izumi will say the phrase "I'm wet" a lot.
As for Cinder...he hears about the Usagi(means bunny) and is curious...he is not sure if she is real or if the Aldera's staff is making things up. Their crimes do make others educators frown at them...their careers are over and so is Aldera. A new school will born.
Cinder is not a fan of corrupt schools and finds aldera really stupid but if this bunny is real...that's interesting.
Cinder: if we are to meet, we will.
(I love put those lil moments here and there. Hints to the couple. Again, she says "I'm wet a lot" and is not an innuendo until it is)
Izumi is planning her next move. Nighteye. Everyone is motivated by revenge in the team. I label them "team found family revenge" lol
Congrats for the progress with your story! I want to read it as soon you publish the chapters, so let me know when that happens.
I'm aware of how Japan culturally holds a lot more respect and give importance to education than the west. Ngl I kinda admire them for that, for story porpuse I get what you try to make.
And since you're ruining the lifes of bad teachers do you have some plans for Aizawa next? I think you didn't like him that much either.
Lol isn't weird at all that Mineta should classify better than BK, as after all besides the stalker stuff and such Mineta is capable of having human decency and interact with other people normally. He also smarter according to canon and his worst tendencies became pretty tame later on.
The "I'm wet" is going to take a new meaning later lol. But I'm here for the slowburn so this sounds interesting.
So you dislike Nighteye? Yeah he's not a very likeable character tbh.