The more news we get on Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey the more I'm convinced this dude thinks we're still in the 1990s 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
What the hell is this???
(picture credits @margaretkart)
For comparison this is what the real Ithaca looks like:
what the what
Kid Diego: Don't belittle me.
Kid Klaus: Ah, yes of course. Number 2 would like to clarify that just because his name is Number 2 does not imply in any way that he's inferior to Number 1.
Kid Diego: And all of the above.
Kid Luther: *murmurs something incoherent*
Kid Klaus: Number 1 says he's Number 1 for a reason and some people should just get used to it.
YES 👏
if you think the greek gods were tyrants who made mortals suffer then you 👏 don't 👏 get👏 it 👏
"In ancient Greece, mortals suffer under the tyranny of the gods—forced to sacrifice the food they depend on, their worldly possessions and even each other at the whims of the Twelve" STOP 👏 BEING 👏 SO 👏 FUCKING 👏 BORING 👏
'I’ll be the first person to call out when a person from an imperialist country is disrespectful against another culture’s traditions because this affects my everyday life.'
I see, thank you for sharing that. I repeat, however, I did not accuse you of xenophobia.
OP's post was harmless, including the tags. They were joking, they said so themselves. You're making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be.
There was an interview where Miller specifically said "I wanted to push back against Homer". That's probably what I remembered, and same logic applies. How can she compare her books to ancient writings?
As for which characters she simplified, well, I've already mentioned Patroclus. The women in 'The song of Achilles' are depicted negatively because they get in the way of Patrochilles. In general Miller sees the Gods as modern sociopaths and describes them as such. Why did Helios need to be a bad father, for example? Simply for protagonist Circe's backstory? In Circe, it often feels like all the male characters have to be abusive purely for Miller's 'feminist' narrative.
You keep forgetting what I wrote:
This isn't about all retellings being inherently bad.
Let me put it this way; I enjoy fanfiction. Fanfiction is essentially a form of retelling. But here's the thing; even in fanfiction, where you put the pre-existing characters in a story that diverges from canon, or even in an AU, the characters are still 'in character'. If their personalities are different, then what's the point? You might as well be reading about completely different characters.
'The idea that reimaginings are “bad writing” is restrictive of the medium and dismissive of plenty of great works'
I was refering to the characters' personalities. Not the entire idea of a retelling. So again, I'm not anti-art, and again, I feel you're twisting my words.
You said in your previous response 'I don’t care for misinformed reviews'. Well, I don't care for people who repeatedly distort my opinions. And I especially do not need to justify myself to them, since they will twist anything I say.
So Madeline Miller is writing a Persephone retelling. So let's make our bets about the book.
The winners will win this picture of a brick.
So let's make a bet.
A.) She will potray Demeter as an abusive mother, whaile the kidnapping will be ereased, and Hades will be baby boyfied.
B.) Hades will be potrayd as eveil incarnate, and Demeter will be potrayd as a poor poor blorbo (similar to how she potrayd Circe)
C.) Both will be potrayd as the worst. Demeter, and Hades will be potrayd as abusive, and Persephone will be potrayd as a poor poor girl who always has to suffer.
My bet is that it will be C.).
(Η Αριάδνη γνωρίζει τον Διόνυσο στη Νάξο)
Διόνυσος: Διόνυσος. Για σένα, Νιόνιος
Αριάδνη: ?????
Every time i see dionysus misspelled as dionysis my spirit gets transported to a different reality where some random greek guy has become a widely known blorbo. Dionysis from my polykatoitikia.