Here's A Question I've Had Before: How Does Monster Aging Work In Mtau?

here's a question i've had before: how does monster aging work in mtau?

for example, horror is 58 yrs old if i remember correctly, does that make him relatively old or is their lifespan usually longer than humans'? (i imagine average lifespans also differ between boss monsters and the rest)

TAU horror is 54, but close!

i'm pretty sure i've talked about monster aging before but i can't remember where the post is — TLDR; a monster's llfespan depends on how much mana it generates, which typically correlates (at least roughly) to its size. it also isn't a straight graph of "more magic = more life", because mana slowly wears down a monster's leylines similarly to how oxygen slowly "burns" our cells; there's a sweet spot in the middle where you can have enough mana to live a long time but not enough to burn your body and SOUL alive from the inside.

(and you're correct: most boss monsters normally sit somewhere around this sweet spot, hence their longevity irrespective of size. :>)

how quickly an overabundance of mana can kill you also depends on the type of body you have, which is why it's important to consider the "race" of monster. ghosts and skeletons, for example, don't have a lot of physical matter even by monster standards, which means that even though their leylines play a more important role in their bodies they're also more resistant to those leylines getting worn down. this corresponds to the idea of "undead" monsters living a very long time.

(...that said, the point where a monster reaches "maturity" also depends on the type of monster. generally speaking, more humanoid monsters will reach maturity rouuuughly the same time as a human — maybe a bit older or younger. this is, again, more to do with the size of the monster than the shape; if a monster was humanoid but also the size of a cup they'd probably reach maturity in just a few weeks. but most humanoid monsters in undertale are also humanoid in size, so... let's take that as a hesitant norm across most universes.)

anyway, with that out of the way, and given the context that all of the pantheon members (obviously save abaddon and nightmare) are boss monsters (lots of mana) AND skeletons (not a lot of physical matter to burn), this means that their lifespans are naturally going to be very, very long. like, at least a couple thousand years a piece. (which seems overbalanced until you remember that skeletons are typically pretty rare in their home universes; seeing more than 3-5 in one spot would normally be very strange, multiversal shenanigans aside.) HORROR, however, comes from an anomalous universe where monsters are made of flesh and blood instead of dust, which means that he does have a lot of matter — and that unfortunately means that he is going to have one of the shortest lifespans on the team besides dust himself, who already suffers heavy leyline damage from the condition he has that causes his body to overproduce mana.

all that to say: horror is still pretty young by skeleton standards, but he'll probably only live a couple hundred years (if he's lucky) as opposed to the more typical few thousand. that's not to say that he's a child, either, of course — all of the skeletons are well past the age of maturity, and in that way "their" 54 isn't really different from 54 in a human — but he's not quite on his deathbed yet, so no need to worry.

so i'd say horror (specifically) is like... late 20's, in human years?

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good day/evening/morning/night :x) i have more questions, as always.

so, to start off, do monsters need to brush their teeth? in the carrd it says monster food is typically made by sending mana into plants and then preparing them as usual; so, cooking and baking, and i assume using spices and sugar. also importantly, plants tend to have more carbs than meat, and sugar and carbs are both great for bacteria to start producing an unnecessary amount of acid that attacks the enamel. so, question is, does magic somehow offset that, or what?

that was all actually asked to lead up to this True question... do the pantheon members brush their teeth? are the teeth of one of them more clean than the others'? anyone with cavities or very yellow teeth?

also, i would love to know if any of them have any fucked up teeth going on. abaddon has an underbite, but do we got any rotated teeth, cramming, additional teeth, missing teeth, chipped teeth, etc.? also also... does nightmare even... have... teeth...?

this is probably the most specific question i've gotten yet, and to be honest, it's been kind of fascinatingly difficult to answer. (/pos xD)

my first thought in response to this was "well, do monsters sweat?" and we know that they do — i remember seeing plenty of monsters sweat in the original game, including sans in the genocide route — but on second thought i realized that didn't actually tell us anything about whether or not bacteria affects a monster. and i don't think we actually have much canon info about that, but going by TAU's established rules about how monsters are constructed — essentially just a handful of ash suspended by a bunch of energy and willpower — i think the answer is "it affects them, but not as much as a human." humans, essentially being bags of raw meat, have to basically be moving or bathing nonstop their whole lives to prevent bacteria from ruining their day, but monsters simply don't have much for bacteria to want.

likewise, magic food doesn't typically have a shitload of physical matter to it, either. plants became the popular option because 1: they're easy and fast to make more of and 2: they hold onto their existing matter better than animals do when loaded with mana. that isn't to say that animals have no mana or that plants are immune to matter loss; just more resistant to it due to the rigidity of their cells. monster food is said to never spoil, and that would be why; the mana converts perfectly (and almost immediately) into energy, and there's just barely enough physical matter left over to replace any lost dust. that's not a lot of material for bacteria to detect, let alone do shit with.

so TLDR; i think hygiene is still important for monsters, but... less intensive, let's say. they have to worry more about literal muck and grime than bacteria, usually, unless they regularly do something that gets more bacteria-friendly messes on their clothes. it's difficult for a monster to get stinky unless it's actively rubbing stinky shit on itself. i don't think most monsters would have any need to brush their teeth unless they were eating human food, but even in that case, any existing bacteria would be targeting the food and not the monster — brushing would mostly be to clean anything stuck between the teeth.

TLDR #2: most of the pantheon members probably don't brush their teeth, no. in fact, i think cross and horror are the only monsters who regularly bathe — cross as a comfort thing and horror because his body genuinely needs the maintenance, being, yanno... more meaty. killer keeps himself clean but mostly through spot-cleaning, and dust should clean himself a lot more than he does, but yanno. depression.

(cross definitely also brushes, but yeah, he doesn't technically need to. and whether or not abaddon technically needs to bathe post-Accident is kind of... nebulous... but they'd feel gross if they stopped, so, yanno.)

given that context, i think the condition of most of the pantheon members' teeth are... surprisingly decent, all things considered? the worst that come to mind are horror's teeth; they're not built quite like human teeth, but wear and tear have thinned them and stained them a bit — you can see that in his model, it almost looks like he has "gums", coincidentally in places that would be more difficult to clean. that's just staining. and abaddon does have a little bit of an underbite, yeah, but their teeth should realistically be much worse than they are — they used to be very crooked (enough that it gave them a nasty lisp, and coincidentally made it difficult enough to clean that they ended up with a bunch of cavities), but their parents were very image-obsessed, so baby abaddon ended up with braces (and the corresponding dietary restrictions) for like 3 whole years. that was such an unpleasant experience for them that they got kind of obsessive about oral hygiene after, so as to avoid any further trips to a dentist/orthodontist.

honestly, this is all kind of funny for me to realize? IRL, i'm a big fan of crooked teeth; generally speaking i think they're a lot more charming than hollywood cookie-cutter pearly-whites, and i prefer natural looks in general. but the "worst" that abaddon has got going on (besides the gap between their front teeth, which returned despite their best efforts) is a bit of yellowing due to all the tea they drink — but it's not super noticeable because, again, abaddon is canonically kind of hygiene-obsessed. and even then, teeth (and bones in general) are kind of naturally yellowish, so. ?? who even notices that??

as for nightmare, though — i'm actually glad you asked!

for nightmare's 3D model, there's a specific effect i want to emulate. i saw this for the first time while watching a playthrough of Valle Verde:

Good Day/evening/morning/night :x) I Have More Questions, As Always.
Good Day/evening/morning/night :x) I Have More Questions, As Always.

when i saw this effect, i absolutely fell in love with it for nightmare.

this is yet another thing i'll have to learn more about textures for before i can accomplish it, though; i still want nightmare's default "smile" to be changeable (and to disappear completely when needed), which is why he's currently muppeting it up in all his WIPS xD

when he's done, the seam where his mouth opens should be invisible, with a smile (or other expressions) just painted on. as for whether or not he has teeth, well... it depends on if he needs them, i guess!


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One animatic down, 2 more to go. Maybe 3 since I also want to make one for Perseverance.

Anyways, one of my favorite things added to this fic (His Wish) was Ink’s ability to absorb and feel the emotions of other people (not just the AUs themselves. His complicated relationship with “feeling” and being confused on wether he reciprocated error’s love for him or not were my favorite moments in this fic.

No this ink doesn’t get a soul that “fixes him” and this ability to absorb people’s emotions creates more of a problem for himself instead of helping him.

I also love error’s arc with him finally accepting that he does care for ink and my favorite moments with him was his deep regret and trauma of accidentally “ending” ink after taking his red paint (yes I know this is very not canon with official ink). So I made an animatic of both of these. Sorry if it doesn’t make sense, that’s why I added a description

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Hai!! Hope everything is alright ^^

So I was thinking about their designs again and (if I recall correctly) you mentioned awhile ago you wanted to change some things with their refs, so I’m curious what you would add or change to their designs?

ahh, i forgot to follow up on that!

mostly i was just unhappy with killer's outfit(s), horror's general shapes (looked a little too fanon for me), and the specifics of abaddon's palette. those are all things i corrected on their 3D models xD

Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^

there's still a lot to do — i need to figure out how to animate/switch between textures to finish killer (mostly for his tears and makeup), and i obviously haven't rigged everyone yet (nor do i know how to get their faces set up in a more natural "default" expression; i know there's a way to set up a library of faces, but idk how yet xD), but as for the color schemes and details of the outfits i think i've fixed them!

i also still need to do all the props... i did abaddon's phone and polearm just as a test, though, and i think they turned out cool:

Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^

might still need to adjust some things; i think the polearm needs to realistically be a bit longer, and i'd also like abaddon's soul to actually be able to show "levels" of fullness as they absorb mana. i think i know how i could approach that, but i'd like to know more about textures first so i don't do things some unnecessarily hard way xDD

killer also has more outfits cuz he's a lil fashionista:

Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^
Hai!! Hope Everything Is Alright ^^

rn i'm not sure about the "earrings", but once i can figure out the textures and finish up the details with his face, i think it'll tie together nicely!

idk; like i said, there's still a lot to do, but it's been nice to work on something that isn't work related. it's cool seeing them slowly come together uwu


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