And also this was mostly before gay marriage was even legal and was not a very accepting thing in like public and society so it's not like Dean would be safe openly flirting with guys and expecting a relationship/hookup so it would make sense that Dean was like always bi and Sam knew but Dean wasn't openly bi because there was still alot of homophobia at the time and they had enough trouble with supernatural problems that Dean wouldn't want to deal with societal problems on top of that, and Dean is known to dislike conservative redneck type of people who are very often homophobic
I absolutely love it when, in fanfics, Dean is absolutely shocked that Sam knew of his bisexuality. It's like my favourite part of any destiel fic.
But every time I watch Supernatural, I see a (mostly unspoken) understanding between the brothers.
Like Dean will shamelessly flirt with or check out men around Sam, and Sam never bats an eye.
When Sam called Dean out on how him being "butch" might make people think he's overcompensating, Dean just said "right" all awkwardly.
When Dean spoke of his relationship with Benny to Sam, he used the word "relationship" without worrying about the implications of it (even if they weren't actually in a relationship)
When Dean told Sam that Aaron was his "gay thing," Sam moved on from it almost instantly, and Dean never felt the need to explain it away.
When Dean was flirting with that male cop, Sam had to pull him away, and Sam's only expression was annoyed.
Before Sam knew sirens could sire people without sex, he didn't react when Dean's siren was a man.
When Dean meets his celebrity crushes, he gets all flustered, and Sam is never bothered (confused, shocked, etc)
Dean will make queer references
Sam will make little comments ("...or are you strictly into Dick now?", "I forgot about you and Crowley's summer of love", etc)
I don't think either of them are unaware of the other's knowledge.
They both know, and they both know that the other knows.
To be fair, I agree with jensen, even tho an I love you would've been great, it would be kinda ooc for Dean to openly express his feelings like that even if it was after purgaytory
DEAN WAS ON HIS KNEES, AND TOLD CAS “I need you”??????399:&$ AND CAS BREAKS OUT OF MIND CONTROL???? WHAT IS THIS HOMOSEXUALITY I JUST BEARED WITNESSED TO SKXKCKRK I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SUBTLE????
They seriously did shit like this MULTIPLE times and they weren't supposed to be inlove, be fucking for real it's so OBVIOUS
will never stop being funny actually. they straight up are just not listening to him at all.
the Cain plot was actually crazy bc wdym the writers said yes here’s Cain but Abel’s not important. What IS important is Cain had a wife and she was the only person who could stop Cain from becoming a monster (flashbacks provided). Now here’s a parallel of Dean and his “best friend” Cas that follows the exact play by play of Cain and his wife. Oh but it’s strictly platonic we’d never make Destiel happen. HELLO??????
Literally the scene I always think of when someone says Dean's straight/isn't inlove with Cas
"Dean Winchester is straight" is such a funny take. because there's like a VISIBLE correlation between Cas coming out of the bathroom all cleaned up and pretty and Dean Winchester sporting a boner.
It's... right there...
spn scripts make me sick bc wdym dean was supposed to say "i love you" in the crypt scene??? wdym cas was supposed to go to his own personal heaven that was full of pictures of dean?? wdym dean spread cas' ashes in a field by a windmill bc he thought cas would have liked it?? wdym dean was supposed to tell cas "i wanted you to stay" in his purgatory prayer?? wdym that while dean was worrying about them dying cas was thinking about how beautiful dean was??? wdym sam was supposed to mention cas while dean was dying???? i am physically unwell.
"when did supernatural go downhill" is the wrong question to be asking because supernatural does not exist on an XY axis where it can go 'up' or 'down' hill, it exists in a plane that extends towards and away from the audience at various times based on writing, plots, and whether or not the gay angel is there. but at no point does it move up or down hill.
Even people like Cain (who had a total of 2 conversations with Dean and barely even a conversation with cas) clocked that Dean and Cas were inlove, like Cain told Dean about his past then the next conversation Cain put the people in deans life in the positions of people that were in cains life, Crowley's the acquaintance/friend that Dean would need a reason to kill but it's not a big deal for Dean to kill Crowley, but then the only person Cain talked about killing that actually hurt to kill (that wasn't his brother) was Collette then Cain clocked that Dean killing cas would hurt Dean just like it hurt Cain to kill Collette, and then of course ending with Sam his brother, and Cain made it a point to say that Dean was living cains life in reverse and purposely made a point that Dean killing cas would hurt Dean alot
how the hell does everybody in this damn show fully believe that dean and cas are gay for each other except for dean and cas
The fucking privilege they don't even know they have to see that line and be like "oh it's foreshadowing" like the fans haven't been fighting for literal years almost DECADES about all the little things and subtext throughout the show proving that destiel was there but people just refused to see it
like I love that they're seeing the destiel moments and agreeing that destiel was there but like destiel has been the purpose of arguments throughout the Fandom for years even after the confession and they're just coming in and watching it now and being like "oh that was foreshadowing, pretty cool for the time" like guys that line has probably sparked more arguments then you'll ever know yet you're just brushing it off as foreshadowing
Rob and Rich are discussing episode 6x17 on the supernatural rewatch podcast and got to Balthazar’s comment about Cas being secretly in love with Dean and they’re all “ah foreshadowing!” “that was ahead of its time for when this aired, cool!”
if only they knew how the fandom was split between “Dean and Cas are canon” and “It’s just a joke guys, there’s nothing there”
it makes me crazy to think that they’re watching this in 2024/25 and it’s just a given that yeah of course Cas was in love with Dean way back in season 6, what else would that comment mean?
Dean's love for Castiel is literally something you can chart the growth of with data points. Just using Dean's reactions after each time Castiel dies.
Season 4: oh wow he died doing the hottest thing ever ('making it up as we go.') Nice.
Season 5: (no time to react before he's back) Are you literal god??
Season 7(first time) denial, then cursing cas out for his choices (ie, choosing crowley instead of dean... Big Feelings on display)
Season 7 (about 3 seconds after the first time in season 7): I'm going to be upset about this the rest of the year, have full on nightmare ptsd from it, and project it onto every relationship and interaction in my life from now on.
Season 8: I will be so traumatized by this that the memories won't even form properly and I won't even be able to SPEAK ABOUT IT AT ALL. Period.
Season 9: only about 6 seconds before he's back, but still a significant amount of wailing his name.
Season 12: depression, rage, eventual suicide
Season 15: Sobbing hysterically. Not even caring that Sam is calling because everyone is dead. Not giving a fuck about any other actual thing in the rest of the world no matter the stakes. Followed by:
'Castiel wants me to live, and I suppose I've internalized the message that I am not a terrible, unworthy person, so I will live and not kill myself so that his sacrifice means something. J/k thank god a fucking rebar. Don't call an ambulance. Don't bring me back. Please let me die.'
We need a chart. I need a chart.
This show is like an anomaly, most of its fans or atleast the hellers absolutely love and hate this show at the same time, it is simultaneously the worst show and the best show and one of the most homophobic and gayest shows of all time, it was a series of coincidences and mistakes and repairs that made supernatural how it is and I can't think of any actual fan who would genuinely want to change it except for the very end of course
I love how supernatural accidentally made castiel trans and then canonically made him in love with dean. I also love how homophobic this gay show is. Like somehow these two things coexist and it’s crazy.