Was Vivienne ever aggressive like Madoc? That her redcap nature, though somewhat tempered by her human nature, played a role in her pre-Elfhame childhood? Was that why their parents and the other adults were so worried, apart from the cat eyes and fairy ears? Do you think that Eva saw Madoc in Vivienne's eyes and shrank from her? What about Justin? Do you think that they homeschooled her to keep themselves safer? Do you think that she was angry and ferocious at Madoc, then saw that he liked it, then tried to calm down and be nicer and go against her fiery nature and not learn battle strategies and swordplay in order to displease him?
Mitchell stared at his mother. Her skin was pale silver, and curly black ringlets framed her face, the rest being pulled back into a high ponytail. Her eyes, however, changed every moment, like a kaleidoscope. 'M-mother,' he stammered. He didn't know what to do-was this really his mother, or was she a hallucination? After losing Capture The Flag, Sherman had taunted him about his parentage. 'Aphrodite's children could never fight as well as the rest of us. Your mom is the goddess of lust and beauty, what's so strong about that?' Mitchell had punched him in the face. In retaliation, Sherman had nearly scratched his eyes out and left him with bruises that might last for a month. And then, in front of the whole camp, Mitchell had burst into tears and ran away, even as Silena called for him and Drew hissed at Sherman. And he had come to the forest, where he really liked to be alone. Thankfully, there were no nymphs or dryads now. Well, there was one, and he had turned to leave, but she called his name and beckoned him over. And then she had told him that she was actually his mother, Aphrodite. He had been told that if, by a rare chance, a god was actually encountered, they must be given the utmost respect and consideration. One's own needs were practically nonexistent, one always agreed with them no matter what. She patted a moss cushioned rock beside her. 'Oh, do sit down! It's been ages since I've talked to one of my children.' He sat down, assuming a respectful posture, hands folded in his lap. 'Ah…………uh, to what do I owe this honour?' 'Oh? Sometimes I secretly visit Camp Half Blood and watch Capture The Flag for fun, and, well, I saw what happened today.' Embarrassment heated his face. Was she going to tell all the other gods? Would he be made a laughingstock among them? Or would she turn him into something for embarrassing her? 'Oh, cheer up.' she patted his cheek and he blinked in surprise. 'I'm not going to humiliate you further. I felt that I ought to tell you how bad my children can have it, especially my sons. The patriarchy negatively affects men as well.' He swallowed. Ah. So……..she was going to comfort him? Would she expect something from him after this? Was she going to send him on a quest to prove himself or something? His throat constricted. He'd heard stories of campers going missing or worse. And there was that horrible tradition of weaving a burial shroud for a quester.
Imagines flashed through his mind, of his siblings weaving with trembling hands, of tears sliding down their cheeks, of the designs that they would struggle to choose from. 'My children are often dismissed and treated as frivolous. The gods are changed by how we are viewed, and people have begun to view me as a silly, fragile little thing who would sooner walk away then get my hands dirty. And the same goes for my children, which I cannot control, though I fervently wish I could.' Does she want to control us? Mitchell thought uncomfortably. Or is she talking about her image? 'My sons bear the brunt of this horribly-misogyny and misandry can be two versions of a terrible, useless coin. Feminine men were often mocked back in the day-well, they still ARE mocked, but you understand me.' And the point of this is? 'The point of this is to assure you that you are not alone. Other feminine men, even ones not my sons, suffer from the same discrimination. And my daughters are also mocked and called useless for the simple crime-' she wrinkled her in nose in distaste, '-of being feminine, even though femininity and fighting are intrinsically intertwined since the dawn of time. Women have silently fought their wars, not the ones with politics and weapons, but the ones with misogyny and violence from both men and women alike-and those battles have dragged on for millennia, and every generation has been witness and victim to them.' A beautiful monologue, worthy of Athena, Mitchell thought, smiling, then he was glad that his mother couldn't read his thoughts. 'And so……….' Aphrodite waved her hand, 'go back and fight, my son. I was once worshipped as a war goddess, and feminine people can still fight. Go and show them that you are a worthy son of mine.'
Do the female characters ever feel like 'satellite love interests' to you in PJO and HOO? I'm talking mainly about Annabeth, Hazel and Piper?
I'd have to go back and reread the books to answer this because I haven't read them in a few months.
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Ok, now that we're done with those two very crucial points-
I often edit my posts, so if you have read my posts before and don't like something about them or thought I was wrong, then please go read them again, because I might have edited them.
That being said, I don't think that my edits are included in reblogs, so if you see my post reblogged somewhere and don't like it, then please come to my blog and read the post again, because there's a high chance that it might be edited.
I have had opinions that I have changed and I have deleted my posts. If you dislike me due to a post you see that's reblogged, please come to my blog and search for it-there's a good chance that I've changed my mind and deleted it.
I am also open to constructive criticism and arguments. I have edited my posts due to constructive criticism many times and I'll do it again if I need to.
Also, I've lost interest in PJO. I have asks that I'll answer and if you have an ask feel free to send me one, I'll definitely answer it, but I won't post about it that much anymore. I'm not anti Percabeth or anti Annabeth, I simply use those tags for fandom etiquette and I do not think that Percabeth is abusive, that was in the past.
What other Greek mythology based books would you recommend
Greek Mythology based books? Well, if you're looking for stories like PJO, I don't know-
But I would really recommend reading the Odyssey and Iliad, even translated versions of them with easier-to-read language. I would also recommend reading Euripedes' Bacchae and his other works like Medea.
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The tagged people will be able to recommend more books like the ones I listed above.
I GUARANTEE you that if Rick didn't make Athena have children, he would also have made her be a child somehow.
Can we just get some love for the small fandoms? The tiny ones? The barely there ones, with people who've read the books, but can't find anyone else who has, even though there are people out there?
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So I have some questions about Gaea and Camp Jupiter.
If you were to have Gaea be the antagonist of HOO, what would be her motives, plans, etc? Would she still need to open the doors of death? If not, which other Greek or Roman mythology figure would be a better antagonist without mischaracterizing them?
Also, with CJ, the world building is an interesting concept but, of course, failed in the final draft (WHY THE CONFEDERACY WAR ARC MUST BE APART OF THE BOOK?! RICK WHY?!) And Lupa (Idk if she's a part of Roman mythology, but still, why she gotta be so cruel? Those are children, especially in Jason’s case)
The split personalities thing in the books is.. odd because while roman mythology was inspired by the Greeks, they should be separated, at least being their own person.
Honestly, I'm not making the roman gods cruel either, but the traditional mindsets of the past affects how the demi gods/legacy treated and viewed as along with their parents relationship. That's what I got, let me know if I need to fix or add on.
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If I'm being honest, I think that Rick shouldn't have written Heroes of Olympus so soon, but should have waited for some time (a few years) before starting on it.
(I also think that that his publishers should not have demanded that he pump out books that big every goddamn year, because good writing can take time, you absolute morons-this is towards Rick's editors, not the guy himself.)
I think that there are two potential avenues for HOO:
I) Making Gaea not a villain, but a morally gray character who does bad things but has good motivations. It's like with Luke and the Titans, except it's with Gaea and the nature spirits.
I would make Gaea's army be WAY larger than Kronos' army, since there's so much pollution on the Earth, many nature spirits, gods and goddesses would join her side. Also, she's not just a Titan-she's a Primordial, second only to literal Chaos and above all who come after her-by order of birth and chronology, at least.
I would have had some of our heroes in the OG book series join her to add tension and further the narrative that the world is not black and white, it's full of nuance, complexity and moral grayness. I might even go so far as to make Grover join Gaea and think that he could make a new world with her.
I might make a combination of his joining her-she manipulates him into thinking that they can build a new, better world without many ramifications and he also exercises his free will by joining her, though he wasn't with full autonomy under her influence.
Also, it would be cool if Percy encountered the river spirit that he had talked to in BOTL on Gaea's side. She's pretty minor and doesn't appear again
Since HOO was so popular along with the PJO franchise, I truly believe that the series would've made a good impact on many people if it were written like this.
2) Not have Gaea be present at all and focus on the politics and tension between CHB and CJ.
The first thing I would do is add adult demigods and legacies. This is what sets Camp Jupiter apart from Camp Half Blood-demigods can actually live there, grow old and have children! Not have to fend for themselves in the mortal world and die early deaths. This is the most special feature that distinguishes it from CHB, so why not show it in person instead of telling us and not showing it?
I do think that there's potential for tension between the demigods and the legacies-the demigods thinking that they're superior because one of their parents is actually a god, while the legacies are only descendants and their parents are mere mortals (or demigods, but not gods).
Also, the reactions of the adults looking at Percy, a freshly traumatised 16 year old straight from a war would be pretty interesting. It could be hilarious, heartwarming or depressing-or a combination, choose your pick.
I would make Chiron and Lupa meet. Imagine the possibilities!
You should look into your country's national suicide number and call them. They can help you and it will be good for you to talk to someone who is trained to help people like you. Please don't make a mistake by taking your own life. God bless you. I'm praying you'll get the support you need.
Thanks, but I'm not sure if I would call myself suicidal. That seems somewhat extreme, though given my posts I understand why you'd call me that.
It feels like I'm at an impasse in life due to certain reasons and given my circumstances, I don't think my future will be that good, especially with the way the world's going.
I'm not really the typical image of suicidal and I don't often think about death as much as some suicidal people do-it just feels as if my death wouldn't be that bad because there doesn't seem to be much for me in life anyway.
Honestly, talking of suicide hotlines-what would I say? What would we even talk about? My life? They're not really a therapist. And I'm not that suicidal anyway. I'd really just be wasting their time.
Thanks for the message anyway. I think I really need to help myself, which I don't know how to do.
Off topic but it frustrates me to no end that religious people always attribute my actions and achievements to God.
'Oh, you're so lucky, God answered your prayers-'
Noooo no no no no no no, NO.
I am the one worked hard to achieve my goals and I will not have them automatically assigned to a higher being that's nonexistent for me. No sir or ma'am, no I will not.
'Oh, but we need God to be humble-'
Maybe your pea sized little brain needs him for that, but my hulking cranium can take the weight of the fact that I can say that I'm good, great, amazing even at something and not start claiming that I can find the cure for cancer.
Seriously. If you meet an atheist, do not automatically say that everything they've achieved is due to God.
One thing that puzzled me was-why the hell was Gisela so toxic to Keefe?
What if she acted nice towards Keefe and gave him more love, not just small doses? Then she could have swayed him to her side way more easily!
Imagine Cassius being a terrible father, but Gisela being a kind, sweet mother-at least that's her facade.
She slowly grooms Keefe to be what she needs him to be-subtly drops hints about the injustice of the Lost Cities, pitting Cassius and Keefe against each other, playing the doting mother when Cassius is angry.
Then Keefe wouldn't have rebelled so hard-he would've been taken in. And when Gisela revealed herself, she could have told him about the injustice that she had been showing him for years.
And Keefe would have had to make a decision. Stay with the Black Swan, or join the Neverseen? And he struggles with this decision over the course of the series. Sophie or his mother?
Because clearly the Black Swan's not doing anything, but the Neverseen is trying.
But the Neverseen's methods are horrible, while the Black Swan is more passive and preferable.
Still, there's so much injustice........
It would've made the book where Keefe join the Neverseen so much juicier.
Just imagine Gisela welcoming Keefe into the ranks. Imagine her teaching him, spending time with him like the old days-
AND IMAGINE HIM BETRAYING HER AND RUNNING AWAY WITH THE STOLEN CACHES.
Imagine her disappointment, her fury. Keefe's overwhelming guilt and shame, but he did the right thing, didn't he?
Except the Black Swan's not getting closer to doing anything, and the Neverseen members weren't as evil as he thought they'd be-they actually seemed to be humane, behaving like normal elves instead of evil people. Humanise the villains.
Aah, my heart, so much ANGST.