Why I Think Caitlyn Didn’t Ask Vi For Forgiveness

Why I think Caitlyn didn’t ask Vi for forgiveness

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Why I Think Caitlyn Didn’t Ask Vi For Forgiveness

The importance of Caitlyn’s “I know”

A key moment in Caitlyn’s character narrative is her “I know”—both its content and delivery.

The content: When Caitlyn says, “I know,” it doesn’t just mean “You’re right.” It means, “I’ve taken the time to think about this.” And thinking is what Caitlyn does best. Her “I know” conveys that she has already had this conversation with herself, over and over in her head. She’s thought about it constantly, she’s already told herself these things, and she’s already blamed herself for them.

The delivery: She screams it with violence, and we can see this represented by the boat falling apart. It’s not just that she has thought about it; it’s tormenting her. Her “I know” is incredibly powerful because it’s filled with suffering.

To me, this is as valid as an apology because asking for forgiveness is outward-facing—focused on the other person. "Asking for forgiveness" says, “Whether I’ve forgiven myself or not, whether I feel guilty or not, it’s on you to decide to forgive me.”

But here, Caitlyn’s “I know” is inward-facing. It means, “I’m not asking you to forgive me because I can’t even forgive myself.”

She knows everything you’re saying, and it torments her.

This is followed by:

"I didn’t even have time to think before they hauled her off."

This line is so telling. Everything about Caitlyn is tied to thinking and reflection.

Being a sniper means aiming and shooting. Aiming is the equivalent of thinking, and shooting is the equivalent of speaking. Everything Caitlyn does is deliberate and thought through.

This is why some people dislike her: as I’ve said before, unlike other characters, Caitlyn’s actions can’t be forgiven easily because she doesn’t do anything by accident.

Then we get to:

"We can’t erase our mistakes. None of us."

Caitlyn speak in “we.”

In the prison scene with Jinx:

Why I Think Caitlyn Didn’t Ask Vi For Forgiveness

"No amount of good deeds can undo our crimes."

This scene mirrors the rage she felt when she threw the boat. In this moment, she’s speaking to Jinx, but also to herself.

Caitlyn and Jinx are paralleled so many times throughout the show. Caitlyn quickly realized that, in some ways, she had become like Jinx. And so, in order to forgive Jinx, she would first have to forgive herself.

At this point in the episode, the person Caitlyn hates the most is herself.

But she no longer has the "energy" to hate, neither Jinx nor herself.

Energy comes from fuel. What she perceives as a lack of strength to keep fighting is simply the fact that the fuel that powered her hatred has disappeared. And when you stop feeding a fire, it eventually dies out. She has no energy left; she has no fuel to sustain her hatred.

It's a particular way of saying, I don’t hate you anymore, and I don’t want to hate myself anymore either, because in the end, that hatred corrupts us/everything .

In her own unique way, Jinx also says, I didn’t know your mother was there, even if it wouldn’t have changed anything. And this too is a strange way of taking a step toward the other.

We have two brilliant and intelligent women who express their emotions in unconventional ways. ----------

There’s also a whole analysis that could be done about her concept of justice and rules, "but I don’t have the energy" to dive into that here. Still, it would only lead back to the fact that Caitlyn doesn’t see herself as the right person to free Jinx (and therefore to forgive her) because she believes she herself is beyond forgiveness.

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Mai Rajab from @Mai_Gazan tweets:
It was my dream !!
She broke my heart and soul 
I can’t imagine why ??? Just why ?? 
She sent me this before she closed all her accounts! 😔
6:48 AM, 04 March 24
Cropped screenshot of a text message sent to Mai says:
I am not responsible for your travel. I wish you the best of luck.
@Mai_Gazan tweets:
"I want to explain to you.

She told me that she wanted to transfer money from her personal account, so I sent her a safe way so as not to be at risk by sending the amount. She transferred the amount through the commercial bank account and sent me a picture of the transfer, but in a few moments later she deleted it and said that this is a fraud.

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Mai's tweet is accompanied by a screenshot of a text message conversation that is transcribed in the next photo.

1:57 PM, 04 March 24
A screenshot of a text message conversation. The contact name is saved as Gaia Thomas.

Friday

Mai: My nose is bleeding.

I think it's from fear.

sent 12:10 AM

(Forwarded meaning this is Gaia texting) My bank will not put the money through. They said it's a scam. There's nothing I can do. It's not my fault.

Mai: Really? 🥺

sent 3:39 AM

Mai: Nooo😭😭😭 I really need to escape 😭 

sent 3:40 AM

Mai: Please help😔

sent 3:40 AM

Mai: The delay is not in our favor. Registration for travel will stop. What can we do?

sent 3:48 AM

Gaia: I am not responsible for your travel. I wish you the best of luck.

sent 8:20 AM

Mai: What happened?

sent 1:06 PM
Mai Rajab @Mai_Gazan tweets as a reply to her own tweet:

Damn you Gaia ! I was trusting you !! 
Fuck everyone who exploited us we just want to survive that’s not our fault

1:59 PM, 04 March 24
Mai Rajab @Mai_Gazan tweets:

"When she deleted the photo of the transfer receipt! I'm not a liar. I have all the documents that show that I didn't take any money."

This tweet is accompanied by a screenshot of a text message conversation that will be transcribed in the next photo.

3:40 PM, 04 March 24
A screenshot of a text message conversation.

11:37

Contact name is Gaia Thomas

Mai: I want a picture of the reciept of the money until it is reviewed with Hossam.

sent 9:27 PM

Mai: (replying to her own previous message about the reciept) That's what I want important for us

sent 9:47 PM

Gaia: (old message from Gaia that Gaia herself is replying to) 🚫 This message was deleted

sent 9:46 PM

Photo of a wall shrubbery with vines hanging down, dotted with purple flowers. It says "9:48 PM" in white font on the bottom right corner of the photo.

Gaia:  I sent it.

sent 9:48 PM
A screenshot of Gaia Thomas' Linkedn profile.

The profile picture shows a pale white woman smiling at the camera. She has brown hair piled up on her head. She blotchy red cheeks and a red chin.

Gaia Thomas
Writer
Self-employed • Zoeglossia

Oakland, California, United States • Contact Info

157 followers • 156 connections

Join to view profile | Message

About
Specialties:
Capacity building, public and community outreach, coalition building, board staffing and facilitation, conversational leadership, collective visioning, volunteer coordination, grant writing, fund

This is the white woman Gaia Thomas.

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There really is nothing left to say.

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