Note To Try This The Next Time I’m In Grymforge! 👀👀

package deal do not separate <3

finally finished my figuring out designs and poses page for these 2... they've been living rent free in my brain for at least a week but now they're also living rent free in my sketchbook! hurrah! (lyrics taken from various songs i was listening to while drawing :D)

Wanna draw some memes with the bg1 characters, probably mostly jaheira and khalid because hyper fixation go brrr, but if anyone has any suggestions feel free to suggest

We discuss how much Khalid loves his wife but let us not forget how much Jaheira loves her husband!

The necklace she’s wearing is Khalid’s gift according to the forgotten realms wiki, it’s been a bit since I’ve played siege of dragonspear so I dont remember the image of the top of my head, all I know is I love it and I always put it on jaheira as soon as I get it

Also! @githyankidanky has altered my brain chemistry and I now must include Khalid’s ear clip because I love their HC that it’s a common practice in Calimport considering how classist the society is. Like it makes complete sense to me that since the indentured servant class isn’t meant to get out of that class the upper classes would make sure that they could always be identified at a glance even if they were all dressed up or something. Also a good character design element that provokes thinking

Something about that last jaheira….

There’s something about her that is scratching my brain

I love her so much

Mapped out the progression of my khalid design. apparently it’s been 11 months of this already. happy new year!

How Jaheira and Khalid adopted Evune joke comic I doodled instead of being actually productive

I was inspired by those memes where it’s like

Dad: doesn’t want a dog

Famous: gets dog anyway

Dad and the dog:

I’m following the SoD lore where Gorions wards mother was a priestess of bhaal and Gorion was like “I can fix her”

To me she feels at the very least in her early thirties in bg1 I typically think of her as her as late thirties. I think the people who made the game didn’t think too much about the timeline because that’s a common trend in the dnd verse since it’s so complicated lol. Her being the godmother to gorions ward makes me feel really weird about the romance

I think it’s best to ignore the actual timeline and go with what makes sense to you

Jaheira's Timeline is Fucked??

I feel like this is known. but still, what the fuck.

The original BG website (taken down) apparently listed Jaheira as being born/less than a year old during the civil war in Tethyr, also known as the Ten Black Days of Eleint. This event happened in 1347.

But if that's true, that makes Jaheira 21 as of the first game. In the first meeting with her, she states that her & Khalid were supposed to be Gorion's Ward's foster parents should anything happen to Gorion. Gorion's Ward is said to be 20 (or "of your twenty years of life") as of the beginning of the game which takes place over the course of about 5 months.

So Jaheira was supposed to be your guardian when she was maybe a year older than you at best.

Worse still, there's supposedly a dialogue between Jaheira and Glint (a companion) in Siege of Dragonspear that confirms that Jaheira had been married to Khalid for 8 years, and dated him for more than 10 years total. SoD takes place in 1368 - 1369 and is 6 months long at most.

That means she started dating Khalid at age 11 - 12, married him at 13 - 14.

Add on that Khalid's BG website bio implies that Khalid and Jaheira met through Gorion (presumably the "sorceror" Khalid asks his father to pay to teach him) & the Harpers, so she was a Harper prior to meeting him, when she was like 10.

like obviously someone fucked up on the numbers, the setting/story isn't quite dark enough to be implying an underaged/arranged marriage for one of the happier couples in the game. but still..

If Jaheira had been born in 1347 she would have been 145 years old as of BG3. Half-elves live around 120 - 180 years.

To make any of it fit, that statement has to be ignored, and at least 5 years need to be tacked onto her age.

So at the earliest:

She's born in 1342.

The civil war happens when she's 5 and she's rescued by one of her servants.

She joins/is involved/travelling with the Harpers around 13 - 15 ish.

She meets Khalid at 16 - 17, marries him at 18 - 19.

Which leaves space for Gorion to have asked her to be next-of-kin to a 14 yro when she was 20.

That way she's 26 when Gorion's Ward (20) rocks up.

As of BG3, she's 150.

But I think that's the absolute youngest she could have been, to correct the dates while still remaining true to the tone of BG & Jaheira/Khalid's relationship.

A more realistic approach would probably be to tack on 10 years:

She's born in 1337.

The civil war happens when she's 10 and she's rescued by one of her servants.

She joins/is involved/travelling with the Harpers around 15 - 19ish.

She meets Khalid at 21 - 22, marries him at 23 - 24.

Which leaves space for Gorion to have asked her to be next-of-kin to a 9 yro when she was 20.

That way she's 31 when Gorion's Ward (20) rocks up.

As of BG3 she's 155.

I did entertain the possibility that she was also present with Gorion when rescuing the Bhaalspawn & adopting his Ward,

(Idk if she knows that your a Bhaalspawn prior to you finding out bc I haven't got that far in the game & haven't seen anything to suggest she does? BG veterans ur input is very much welcome here!)

but that would need her to be around at least 20 in 1348 & a competent Harper, which conflicts with her being child in need of a servants help in 1347 when the civil war begins. Her being 40ish when Gorion is killed isn't so much of an issue since she's a Half-elf and Shadowheart, who is also considered a young adult, is in her 40s in BG3. It's just the conflict with her being a child in 1347 that makes me think she wasn't involved then.

Living up to “the druid” part of my name by spending all day in the forest

I did in fact touch some grass but it didn’t fix me :(

I regret nothing

I know Orin is a changing so I’m pretty sure she lacks the mind reading ability that doppelgängers have and I don’t remember her having the mind reader ability which may be a good thing because if she knew what Khalid looked like she would be going CRAZY

Oh, you easily got around my trap at the dancing axe? Time for psychological damage

Obviously jaheira would win but come on that’s a premise right there

saw this trend on tiktok and thought it fit them well 🤭