Khalid Some Jaheira And A Bonus Safana And Gorion

Githyankidanky coming in with the slam dunk as always

Also please give me both timelines I need them 🤲

Jaheira's Timeline is Fucked??

I feel like this is known. but still, what the fuck.

The original BG website (taken down) apparently listed Jaheira as being born/less than a year old during the civil war in Tethyr, also known as the Ten Black Days of Eleint. This event happened in 1347.

But if that's true, that makes Jaheira 21 as of the first game. In the first meeting with her, she states that her & Khalid were supposed to be Gorion's Ward's foster parents should anything happen to Gorion. Gorion's Ward is said to be 20 (or "of your twenty years of life") as of the beginning of the game which takes place over the course of about 5 months.

So Jaheira was supposed to be your guardian when she was maybe a year older than you at best.

Worse still, there's supposedly a dialogue between Jaheira and Glint (a companion) in Siege of Dragonspear that confirms that Jaheira had been married to Khalid for 8 years, and dated him for more than 10 years total. SoD takes place in 1368 - 1369 and is 6 months long at most.

That means she started dating Khalid at age 11 - 12, married him at 13 - 14.

Add on that Khalid's BG website bio implies that Khalid and Jaheira met through Gorion (presumably the "sorceror" Khalid asks his father to pay to teach him) & the Harpers, so she was a Harper prior to meeting him, when she was like 10.

like obviously someone fucked up on the numbers, the setting/story isn't quite dark enough to be implying an underaged/arranged marriage for one of the happier couples in the game. but still..

If Jaheira had been born in 1347 she would have been 145 years old as of BG3. Half-elves live around 120 - 180 years.

To make any of it fit, that statement has to be ignored, and at least 5 years need to be tacked onto her age.

So at the earliest:

She's born in 1342.

The civil war happens when she's 5 and she's rescued by one of her servants.

She joins/is involved/travelling with the Harpers around 13 - 15 ish.

She meets Khalid at 16 - 17, marries him at 18 - 19.

Which leaves space for Gorion to have asked her to be next-of-kin to a 14 yro when she was 20.

That way she's 26 when Gorion's Ward (20) rocks up.

As of BG3, she's 150.

But I think that's the absolute youngest she could have been, to correct the dates while still remaining true to the tone of BG & Jaheira/Khalid's relationship.

A more realistic approach would probably be to tack on 10 years:

She's born in 1337.

The civil war happens when she's 10 and she's rescued by one of her servants.

She joins/is involved/travelling with the Harpers around 15 - 19ish.

She meets Khalid at 21 - 22, marries him at 23 - 24.

Which leaves space for Gorion to have asked her to be next-of-kin to a 9 yro when she was 20.

That way she's 31 when Gorion's Ward (20) rocks up.

As of BG3 she's 155.

I did entertain the possibility that she was also present with Gorion when rescuing the Bhaalspawn & adopting his Ward,

(Idk if she knows that your a Bhaalspawn prior to you finding out bc I haven't got that far in the game & haven't seen anything to suggest she does? BG veterans ur input is very much welcome here!)

but that would need her to be around at least 20 in 1348 & a competent Harper, which conflicts with her being child in need of a servants help in 1347 when the civil war begins. Her being 40ish when Gorion is killed isn't so much of an issue since she's a Half-elf and Shadowheart, who is also considered a young adult, is in her 40s in BG3. It's just the conflict with her being a child in 1347 that makes me think she wasn't involved then.

May or may not be cooking something up

Something I think about is Khalid’s mother

Because in the first game in Khalid’s background she is not mentioned at all, and in siege of dragonspear she is mentioned as ‘not thinking much of him’ but to a lesser extent than his father did who we all agree was a POS

1. What was she like?

like her life probably sucked a lot.

She was an elven concubine in a country that is pretty much devoid of any other elves, and so she was seen as exotic, which is probably why Khalid‘s father had her as a concubine in the first place.

She would always be below his actual wife and I won’t get into all of the horrible things that could’ve happened to her prior or during this time

And then on top of everything, she has a illegitimate kid with the dude!

I doubt Khalid’s father or his wife (mother of Khalid’s half brothers) was particularly interested in raising him, so it was probably all on her.

So now on top of her life already probably sucking, she has this kid in a world that is guaranteed to be hostile towards him because he is considered lower by default.

There’s no way she could protect him from that even if she did try.

Maybe there was a combination of resentment of having another thing on her plate to take care of but also guilt about having this kid that she feels is guaranteed to have a miserable life

2. Was their relationship purely indifference and neglect or was there some love?

Is it possible that she walled herself off from him so that when he was inevitably hurt it didn’t hurt her as much? Like self protection so she only had to feel her own hurt

Were there good moments? Where she would protect him or comfort him in ways she felt she could?

Maybe she held some hope that because his father was of the merchant class Khalid would get further than she could only to have those hopes crushed within her lifetime

3. How does Khalid feel about her?

Maybe he is a bit overly forgiving of her actions because of he knows her circumstances (Which probably annoys Jaheira lol)

Maybe there’s some resentment for not being the mother he needed but he feels guilty about having those feelings

Maybe she just fades into the background of his childhood

There’s so many possibilities because we know nothing about her so we get to fill in the blanks!

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For the hungry, she's hunger

For the dead, she's death

For the ill, she's illness

For the prisoner, she's life sentence

For the lonely, she's loneliness

For the traveler, she's a broken compass

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Every time I draw jaheira the colors change I simply cannot decide ; ;

Something I think about is Khalid’s mother

Because in the first game in Khalid’s background she is not mentioned at all, and in siege of dragonspear she is mentioned as ‘not thinking much of him’ but to a lesser extent than his father did who we all agree was a POS

1. What was she like?

like her life probably sucked a lot.

She was an elven concubine in a country that is pretty much devoid of any other elves, and so she was seen as exotic, which is probably why Khalid‘s father had her as a concubine in the first place.

She would always be below his actual wife and I won’t get into all of the horrible things that could’ve happened to her prior or during this time

And then on top of everything, she has a illegitimate kid with the dude!

I doubt Khalid’s father or his wife (mother of Khalid’s half brothers) was particularly interested in raising him, so it was probably all on her.

So now on top of her life already probably sucking, she has this kid in a world that is guaranteed to be hostile towards him because he is considered lower by default.

There’s no way she could protect him from that even if she did try.

Maybe there was a combination of resentment of having another thing on her plate to take care of but also guilt about having this kid that she feels is guaranteed to have a miserable life

2. Was their relationship purely indifference and neglect or was there some love?

Is it possible that she walled herself off from him so that when he was inevitably hurt it didn’t hurt her as much? Like self protection so she only had to feel her own hurt

Were there good moments? Where she would protect him or comfort him in ways she felt she could?

Maybe she held some hope that because his father was of the merchant class Khalid would get further than she could only to have those hopes crushed within her lifetime

3. How does Khalid feel about her?

Maybe he is a bit overly forgiving of her actions because of he knows her circumstances (Which probably annoys Jaheira lol)

Maybe there’s some resentment for not being the mother he needed but he feels guilty about having those feelings

Maybe she just fades into the background of his childhood

There’s so many possibilities because we know nothing about her so we get to fill in the blanks!

uuuhghdhf i love khalid so much....

Khalid’s alive that’s what matters to me lol

Kinda makes me want to do this for my au because it gets wacky after I decided to go down the pure ‘I think this would be cool’ route

I made a loose timeline for my au.

Under the cut because this is looong 😅

No colour is canon

Blue is headcanon

Orange is au

1334dr 

Khalid is born.

1337dr  

Jaheira is born.

1347dr

Castle Tethyr falls.

1348dr 

Iloben (Gorion’s Ward) is born.

Jaheira joins the Druids.

1350dr

Gorion finds Iloben and takes him in.

Khalid joins the Calimport Militia.

1354dr

Jaheira joins the Harpers in Athkatla, sponsored by Dermin Courtierdale.

1355dr

Khalid is found by Harpers and leaves Calimport to join the Harpers in Athkatla.

Khalid is captured and tortured by Zhentarim.

Gorion, Jaheira, and two other Harpers are assigned to rescue him.

1356dr

Khalid and Jaheira start dating.

1358dr

The Time of Troubles.

1360dr

Khalid and Jaheira are married in The Dalelands.

1368dr

Gorion is murdered and Sarevok tries to set Baldur’s Gate and Amn against each other in war in hopes of pleasing Bhaal through all the murder. He is stopped by Iloben, Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Dynaheir and Minsc.

1369dr

Iloben tries to join the Harpers but is rejected for being ‘out of balance.’

Caelar Argent starts her crusade and is stopped by Iloben, Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Dynaheir and Minsc.

Irenicus captures them all. Iloben and Imoen are tortured and experimented on, Khalid is tortured in front of Imoen as one of the experiments. Jaheira and Minsc are kept captured, but are mostly unharmed. Dynaheir is killed.

They all escape (including Khalid) when Shadow Thieves attack Irenicus’ dungeon.

Khalid lost the abilities of his legs but was (mostly) healed by clerics in the Harper hold in Athkatla. (He stays there for the entirety of bg2 because he is too weak to fight.)

Iloben and Nalia marry for convenience but start dating properly not long after.

Irenicus and Bhodi steal Iloben’s and Imoen’s divine souls but are killed and they are returned.

Amelyssan makes all the Bhaalspawn fight and kill each other in attempt to become the new God of Murder, but is stopped by Iloben, Imoen, Jaheira, Nalia, Minsc, and Aerie.

Iloben gives up his essence of Bhaal and lives with Nalia in De’Arnise keep.

Khalid and Jaheira leave the Harpers to focus on his recovery.

1374dr (not sure if this is canon but it's the only date I could find)

Khalid and Jaheira rejoin the Harpers to fight against Ketheric.

Ketheric is killed, The Shadow Curse starts and Reithwin falls.

1396dr

Khalid and Jaheira have their first and only biological child who they named Elmae.

They (temporarily) take a break from the Harpers to raise her.

1416dr

Khalid and Jaheira rejoin the Harpers

1419dr

Tirana (Tav) is born.

1432dr

Iloben dies of natural causes and Bhaal is reborn.

1451dr

Dayis (The Dark Urge) is made by Bhaal.

1465dr

Jaheira becomes High Harper of Baldur’s Gate

1468dr

Jaheira finds Rion as a baby and takes her in alongside Khalid.

1478dr

Khalid and Jaheira adopt Jord at age 5.

1489dr

Khalid and Jaheira adopt Jhessem at age 8.

Khalid and Jaheira adopt Fig at age 7.

1491dr

Khalid and Jaheira adopt Tate at age 8.

1492dr

The events of Baldur’s Gate 3 take place.

I wanna talk about my AU that gradually took over my bhaalspawn

So we all know Jaheira and Khalid were meant to take care of gorions ward if something happened to him right? Well what if instead Gorion asked them to raise the MC from the beginning?

If we take what SoD implies about Gorion saving the MC and killing their mother maybe he does this because instead of feeling responsibility he feels guilt over killing this kids mother. If we take what Gorion says in his note about her dying in childbirth then we can say maybe he was filled with grief or something. Either way he doesn’t keep them unlike canon

What would be the impact of this on the story? There are so many ways you could go with this concept, but most of all I just want to know how jaheira and Khalid would be as parents! Jaheira has her kids in bg3 but I need more! I need dad Khalid! He already gives off those vibes with his whole “Gorion would be proud of your actions” I think he’d be such a girl dad

So I took my Bhaalspawn Evune from my playthroughs and put her in the au and she lives there now

(Old art aaaaa)

This is her, my girl, she’s a ranger

I’m choosing to believe that Minsc doesn’t mention him because he knows it’s a sore spot for Jaheria and/or he doesn’t want to bring him up if Jaheria hasn’t.

this feels like a safe place to post here now..the only patch fix I'M concerned about. when khalid was failed to be mentioned here i had to laugh...im addicted to the pain