it's time to talk about leno đ
first of all an abriged timeline of what we know about the alleged beef (creds to @moondoggiestyle for the reference, also some of my own additions):Â
may 29, 2024: will signs with the sharks
summer 2024: leno and gabe both remain at BC
oct 31, 2024: will scores his first nhl goal, leno posts about it
jan 20, 2025: sharks play the bruins in boston, all the bc buddies attend including leno
jan 21st, 2025: leno's bday - no post from will, though in previous years he did post, and typically posts for everybody's bdays
jan 24-24th, 2025: BC beats BU in back to back games. leno gets a hatty in one of the games, his first. wait for it...
jan 28, 2025: jersey bet. that's fucking right. those were the games - leno's five point weekend - after which mack shows up to walk ins in will's fucking tarp. credit to @aquilotti and @loganes for this diabolical realization. so who cares about leno's hatty when INSTEAD we can talk about mack in will's jersey! SICK and TWISTED!
jan 29, 2025: mack and leno follow each other on insta, leno has been up in mack's likes, mack not so much. according to rumor, mack follows leno first, leno follows back right after (ty @loganes again!!!)
feb 10, 2025: the beanpot, bc and bu play each other, leno and gabe are on the team, mack and will attend together in fucking matching black outfits, bc loses to bu, will and mack fuck off to arizona to reenacg magic mike or whatever
march 17, 2025: will's bday - no post from leno, posts from all their buddies (voter, gabe)
march 31, 2025: leno and gabe both sign to their respective nhl teams, will reposts both posts, leno is the only buddy to not get commentary on the repost
april 4, 2025: leno scores his first nhl goal (empty net đ), no post from will
extremely early may: mack uses leno's number 9 for his initial team canada jersey number, THEN doubles down and adds will's 6 (insane btw)
may 7, 2025: gabe's bday - posts from both will and leno
may 29th, 2025: leno makes his farewell bc insta post and completely leaves will out of it
also let it be noted all year will has been all up in gabe's comments, nada for leno
now, for part 2 - the insta post
5 slides
slide 1: the cover photo and also the most insane photo to have possibly chosen. leno and gabe exactly mirroring the pic of mack and will that will posted on the second slide of his year one sharks dump. i dont wanna cornplate too hard yet before i get the facts down, but it's a clear duo picture. hes saying this is my guy! not a whole pic of the team, not a pic of just leno, no it is a duo pic with gabe that is quite literally an exact copy of will's duo pic with mack
slide 2: leno in the middle of posma and powell. posma is a senior, powell is a grad student, both older, neither of them appear to be in will's in crowd
slide 3: line pic with gabe, stiga, hagens, and gustafsson. interesting to me that he doesnt tag hagens here and instead waits for slide 5, which....see below
slide 4: walk in pic with will vote. from insta we know that will, gabe, leno, and vote were kind of a squad, and will leno and vote also all lived together for the development program. unsuprising inclusion.
slide 5: an absolutely insane pic of leno literally lying on toppp of james hagens and grinning. hagens was a freshman and was essentially will's replacement in the gabe will leno line. warning for early cornplating but in my head this is like The Replacement Pic.
finally part 3, i put on my little tin hat and run around in the wild going insane.
âźď¸warningâźď¸ cornplating starts here đ
okay. leno posting for will's first goal - first of all, leno stand uppppp, second of all, w the way that boy has been acting all up in insta likes, i dont think it's fair to assume that no falling out has happened yet. and if it has happened, it was likely leno at fault because why would he be gassing will up if he was mad?
then to january, leno attends the sharks game, but the NEXT DAY, will doesnt post for the bday. meaning sometime in fall '24, there was an initial conflict. leno still shows up with all the boys, but he isnt in the group pic, and he isnt getting posted. this further solidifies my theory that in at least the initial conflict, wherever it started from, leno was at fault.Â
just a week later, mack and leno follow each other. the sharks were in between a home game and a game in seattle, so it's likely mack and will were together in san jose that day. okay, so what happened here? between the weird boston/bday tension, and then will's new number one guy following will's old number one guy on insta?? hmmm
now - the beanpot. will and mack show up together to watch a game extremely important to leno and gabe, a game that very much matters to will's two best friends, and they show up in fucking matching black outfits, zero allegiance showing. mack is reading the lineup, waving a bu flag, will not so much. whats more is as far as im aware we have no evidence of will actually hanging out with his bc boys after the loss or while he was in boston at all. im not saying they didnt, but they didnt post about it! says something idk what but something!
no will bday post - silence is loud. he reposts leno's signing - he's being polite, but the distance is clear. will is notttt the type to be reserved about showing affection for his friends and fam, but not even an emoji....cold war happeningÂ
then jerseygate: mack stealing leno's fucking number, no good explanation at all. THEN adding will's number too! so clearly will isn't even upset about it! mack is clearly involved in the will and leno war, at first one could speculate that he played a part but this is like direct involvement now. mack and will on one side, leno on the other. mack's out here wearing their matching numbers at worlds like he's fuckinh achilles dragging hector's corpse around, leno's gotta feel mocked, erased, and not chosen. heâs being publicly overshadowed, his identity stitched onto someone will now loves more.
the insta post now, no will. he's erasing him. and the hagens pic?? unreal. reads like, âyou replaced me? i replaced you" except wayy more pathetic unfortch
so my main questions:
the mack following - who followed who first? leno, in some kind of testing the waters move? or mack, likely at will's prompting, or out of his own insanity? and why now? why not before or after the game, which is when they wouldve met up? they had a back to back and played the preds next day so ig wouldve been like coffee or something quick outside the locker room, but still.
âźď¸info update that mack followed leno first, leno followed right after. SINISTER given that this is occuring the DAY after jersey bet gate, where mack wears will's tarp to the rink based on a bet on games that leno carried. SINISTER!!!
the beanpot - i feel personally that the vibez took a turn for the worst here, but were already bad before. some kind of blowup? a real actual fight? was mack and leno following eo indicitive of some attempt to smooth things over, but then the scab got picked open at the beanpot? again with the way that leno has been grovelling via instagram, feeling like it's a him problem. but ALSO if leno did do or say something it wouldnt be entirely his fault or entirely too bad, given that it doesnt appear that sides have been taken within the core group. maybe leno said something? possibly about or to mack? possibly just to will? who knows! but after this, leno is no longer inner circle and will makes it clear. leno's sitting in a locker room somewhere refreshing will's story after his first nhl goal, and it's crickets.
post beanpot - has will been freezing leno out entirely now? and what role is mack playing, is he actively leaning into it? all signs point to yes.Â
the way i see it, there's obvi endless possibilities, but my general mentally made up delulu timeline is this:
summer '24: will blindsides (to some extent) gabe and leno with leaving bc, leno takes it as a slight or a betrayal. he made sure to talk a LOT abt how happy he was that he stayed another year at bc, in this context it reads as trying to rub it in. tension is created, but nothing friendship ending yet
fall '24: something happens. will's probably drifting, pulling away, busy with the sharks and his new best friend mack. maybe leno's making comments, being passive aggressive, trying to ice will out a little bit out of hurt, jealousy, whatever. maybe he goes a little too far, will doesnt take it well, leno grovels a little.Â
winter '24: by jan, it's cooled off a little, things are still tense. leno goes to the game, but the whole group is going, he cant NOT go, but they are almost certainly fighting or almost certainly have a fight here bc no leno bday post the NEXT DAY?? in my head theres a few scenarios, obvi have zero basis in fact, but i love a hypothesis so maybe something like will bringing mack along to a meetup, or texting mack while hanging w bostom boys, leno feels overlooked and replaced all over again right in front of his salad, says something nasty? who knows but it was enough for will to not post his bday! at the beanpot, there had to be something, some kind of fight, because its been a full on ice out ever since.
spring '24: will is done, checked out, he's picked mack over and over. leno is crashing out holed up in PLD's house shaking like a rabid dog. now he just wants to hurt will back, but at the same time he wants will back. he wants will to pick him but he wants will to feel as abandoned as he does.Â
anyways. anyways!!
youâre ryan leonard. you go back to college again to get a second crack at the natty and prove a point to the guy who ditched you for the nhl. you lose the beanpot. you lose the natty. you lose the hobey baker. you sign with the capitals and proceed to get eliminated from the playoffs with 0 points to your name. you choose to do the stanley pup instead of playing for worlds because youâre avoiding your old situationship and usa is probably going to lose anyway. exceptâŚ. usa does win. your ONE accomplishment was winning gold in the WJC and even that has been upstaged. your roommate is desperately trying to kick you out because you refuse to go back to boston and keep interrupting him and his gf every time they get handsy. and throughout all this, you have been publicly humiliating yourself and getting curved via instagram likes. no one is doing it like him
So today, in a conversation about some older hrpf fandom lore, I got asked if I could talk about Sidâs public image and fandom interpretations and Nateâs influence on him over the years. And I said, boy, can I.
So to start out, it really cannot be stressed enough that pre-2015-ish, Sidâs initial public image and his characterisation in fandom was pretty hard on the babygirlification and leaned hard into spacetoaster (the original âhockey robotâ trope). this was due to a number of factors, mainly:
he was a very young and chubby-faced player in the league (and there werenât any twinks around)
he was exceptionally good at hockey and the youngest captain to ever win the cup
he notoriously never, ever, ever gave away even a hint of his personality in front of a camera.
Sid was media trained to the gills at a really young age. some of the first articles about him in local newspapers appeared as early as ages 6 and 7, and by the time he hit around 14 and it was clear that heâd stuck with the course and was pretty set to play in the NHL at some point, more and more media attention swung his way. His first endorsement deal I think happened at age 15 or 16. After Gretzky retired in â99, âand especially after the lockout in 2005, to this day the biggest lockout in North American sports historyâ most hockey fans were hungry for The Next One. JĂĄgr and Yzerman were still around for sure, and Mario un-retired in 2000 to save the Pens from bankruptcy, but they were aging, and they werenât Gretzky. No one was. And there were few players that seemed as promising as Sid.
So, given that Sid was drafted in the mid-2000s before social media was rampant, and celebrity information still came out mostly via wildly invasive tabloids, Sidâs early career was marked by a notorious lack of personal information about him. Basically a perfect breeding ground for fanon interpretations to run rampant, but they werenât entirely unfounded either. Sid was clearly an absolute freak of nature (affectionate) on the ice, and some of the early information (mostly via PR obligations and PensTV) that leaked out over the years gave fans little crumbs of his personality that basically amounted to: loves being chirped; his teammates call him âCreatureâ; likes his fun-loving teammates (mostly the pranking ones, like Flower and Max Talbot, but Sid was never caught helping with pranks by media); is an excellent Captain; and (via whispers and rumours floating around from people that had been there to see it) he seems to be an upstanding guy thatâs really involved with a shitload of charity work on the down low. A lot of this info also came after the fact via articles and short PR videos. For example, turns out that Sid personally pioneered the Little Penguins with his own money, which ultimately kickstarted league-wide initiatives for kidsâ programs to learn hockey and for teams to donate equipment. In an article years after the fact, it came out he fought for some tickets to his Juniors games in Rimouski to be set aside for a cheaper price so low-income families could attend.
So that was what we knew until around 2010. He won a cup in 2009 and very little footage of those celebrations leaked out, and he won an Olympic gold in 2010 and became Canadaâs Golden Boy. He only did the bare minimum of PR, and never attended the All-Star Game (10 bucks says mostly to avoid the PR there, too). Itâs genuinely hard to overstate how much he avoided the public eye.
Then came the concussion years. The first injury happened on January 1st, 2011 in the Winter Classic against the Washington Capitals. Itâs pretty wild to look back on it now, but Sidâs injury and everything around it ended up doing a lot of legwork towards taking concussions more seriously in the league. While the NHL still wonât admit to the long-term harm of concussions and concussion syndrome, itâs hard to describe just how long of a way theyâve come in the last fifteen years. Concussion awareness and a tightening of the concussion protocols became more prevalent after The Face of The League was injured with one for so longâ of course, itâs not something you can pretend isnât a big deal when the leagueâs star player spends almost two years out of commission with one.
So Sid was essentially in and out of the lineup between 2011 and 2013, when he broke his jaw. He recovered from the concussion in time for the 2012 playoffs, but in 2012/13 the half-season lockout happened until January of â13, and his jaw injury was sustained at the end of March, right before the playoffs in 2013. He did play a couple games in a full cage, and he had excellent stats, but he was still injured that entire time. During his injured years there was medical information (there is footage of a really hard-to-watch press conference out there about his concussion, let me tell you) and some personal information that became known to the public, but it was kept as much on lockdown as the team could. I assume it was to give him as much privacy as possible. The big exception was, of course, his angry âI donât like any guy on their teamâ monologue that burst out of him during a post-game during the 2012 playoff series against the Flyers. That was the most impassioned thing Sid had pretty much ever publicly said after years of spouting so much empty regurgitated hockey media bullshit otherwise. The media ate it up of course. In general both before and after that, there were a lot of press vultures circling during that time. After all, with all those injuries there was a lot of anxiety that, well: Sidney Crosby, generational talent and Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieuxâs spiritual heir, would never play hockey again.
That brings us to the summer of 2013. Nate gets drafted. Sid is looking at the starting line of his first full healthy season in three years. Now, Sid and Nate actually met for the first time in the summer of 2011 by all accounts (which is narratively interesting to me, personally), and the high-knees story is from then, but after Nateâs draft is when they really started growing closer and becoming friends. Apparently, the day after Nateâs draft is when the sand-dune story happened, and according to Nate, they didnât really know each other much then. But it seems that since theyâd been in each-otherâs orbits for a while (since Nateâs early teen years theyâd shared an agent, Pat Brisson, and a personal trainer, Andy OâBrien), this is around the time they started becoming friends. I imagine it happened pretty organically. Who knows, thereâs not too many details out thereâ but I like to think they gravitated towards each other the way only two maniacally obsessive peas in a pod can, that they took one look at each other and recognised oh, yeah, this guyâs the same as me. I like this guy.
For those first two seasons after Nate got drafted, Sid was mostly focused on silencing the haters whoâd been banging pots and pans since 2011 that Sid needed to be taken to pasture at a farm upstate, and Nate was mostly focused on not being a first overall bust after media pundits were traumatised by the Oilers fucking up too many top 3 picks (RIP Nail Yakupov). There wasnât a lot of information about them out there publicly. Same old hockey robot media trained stuff you could expect from âFace Of The Leagueâ Sidney Crosby. At the NHL Awards in 2014 Nate won the Calder and Sid won the Hart, Ted Lindsay, and Art Ross, and as we found out via Genoâs instagram in 2017, Sid has the picture of the two them from dinner that evening framed in his house (very casual, Sid).
But around 2015 something funny started happening. Sid went to Worlds with Nate, despite the fact that he hadnât gone since 2007 (where Canada placed 4th. 10 bucks says that was a superstition thing too, like maybe Sid thought not medalling gives you bad mojo or something). After that, they spent three weeks in a condo in Santa Monica together (which we found out several years later in an article). They started wearing matching socks to go golfing. Nate and Sid started doing the Tim Hortonâs ads together. Sid did the inaugural Hockey School at Cole Harbour Place and Nate helped him out. Nate took part in Sidâs birthday skate. PensTV was even allowed to come film them (something they hadnât really done too much of before) to make a little documentary called Thereâs No Place Like Home With Sidney Crosby, which won him his first Emmy (I assume mostly because people were so gobsmacked by the concept of him talking about his personal life that that alone merited an award. Itâs either that or the magical appearance of a hummingbird behind him like heâs a fairytale princess at the end, who knows). All in all, while nothing had happened much in the public eye between Nate and Sid (apart from some wildly embarrassing tweets and instagram posts, Nathaniel), there was evidence of something monumental having happened behind the scenes. It was wild. After years of iron control and media-trained-habits-only in public, Sid was letting his personality shine through on camera and in front of the media, and being affectionate with Nate in public (who was a giant goofball around Sid, of course). And Sid looked happier than heâd been in years! Admittedly, some of that was probably because the Injury Years also just sucked, but he was openly having fun hanging out with Nate on camera, saying yes to media engagements he wouldnât have said yes to in a million years. Willingly! Not because it was a sponsorship or a team obligation! And it kept happening! In some more recent articles, we found out fun facts like that Sid cooks for Nate daily in the summer after they work out in the mornings (which, the fact that that information is publicly out thereâ wild).
In 2016, after he won the Cup again, he did another Tim Hortonâs Ad with Nate. In early 2017 he attended his first All-Star Game in 8 years (and finally scored a point), and PensTV captured footage of Nate and Sid joking in Sidâs hotel room while Sid was getting dressed for an ASG event (??? WHEN will someone explain to me HOW they werenât fucking beforehand?? WHY was Nate in Sidâs room while he was GETTING READY, I want ANSWERSâ). And then, of course, the Pens won the second back-to-back and Nate fully BUILT A HOUSE almost on top of Sidâs and Sid willingly changed the build of his driveway for Nate to be able to build his house. Nate got a therapist in 2017-2018 and became a hockey monster, and then they did another Timmies commercial, yadda yadda, another million weird and codependent things have happened since then (yeah, Iâm looking at the Buddy Basket for Avsâ Better Halves and the congratulatory vid for Sidâs 1000th game that was âtoo private to airâ and the fact that Nate had to talk about Sid 0.5 seconds after winning the Cup). The point is that thereâs a pretty obvious catalyst for all this shit happening, and his name starts with N and ends with athan Raymond MacKinnon.
And I know what youâre gonna say, thereâs no proof Sid went to Worlds in 2015 or started being more open in public just because of Nate. They havenât explicitly said that. But like. What else is there? Nateâs low-key been doing small local TV and media gigs since his teens; they even did matching His&His couplesâ podcast episodes for Spittinâ Chiclets in 2019. You really wanna tell me that wasnât Mr. Nathan I-Have-An-IMDB-Page MacKinnon? All Iâm saying is that I only need to look at that blooper where Sid loses his shit just because Nate said âSidneyâ to know that thatâs love, baybey.
(i know thatâs a gif from a different year, 2018, but i canât find the right gif right now and sid cracking up because he thinks nate is thee most hilarious person on earth will always be great to see)
something i find really interesting about will is how he's so extremely conscious about the fact that he's really goddamn young in the grand scheme of things. no rush to check off any box or marker of "true adulthood", comfortable being doted on by his parents even now. every other interview he does, he's like: "well mack and i are just kids" or "it's nice to have someone my age around when all the other guys have families and other responsibilities and adult lives outside of the rink" etc. he's having fun! he's right that he can't really relate to the guys on the team who have kids. he's living in the moment but he's careful about it exactly because he knows that that's what he's trying to do. he's making all these memories and he's taking note and he's going to be nostalgic about a moment just a month ago because well now is the youngest you will ever be again.
versus mack who's kind of always getting spoonfed the "well you're very mature for an eighteen year old" narrative who is mostly careful not to talk about being a kid but still can never escape from it, because, well. he is a kid and it shows. mature in some ways because he left home young and maybe internalized some of the 1oa hockey robot story but childish in other ways, how he waits on those around him to see how he's supposed to react, how it's patently obvious that he just wants to be wanted, even if he doesn't know that that's what it is....!
the last one is for me specifically
hi mikko. mikko's tongue.
wpg@dal 05.17.25 | round 2 game 6
ptolemaea â ethel cain i am the face of love's rage
(special thanks to @celbrini for brainstorming with me)