I do sorta wonder if the reason some people are finding it hard to jump to Oak/Wren from jurdan is because their comparing Jude to Wren and Oak to Cardan... like there are parallels but I think we're supposed to compare Oak→Jude and Wren→Cardan.
Another gesture study made into a cute small thing. <3
a while back i saw someone (or rather, a thread of ppl saying that they hope cardan and nicasia don’t get it on in the next book which is supposed to be nicasias book (supposedly) and i even saw someone say they WISH THEY DO ?!
so here’s your fun reminder of what nicasia put cardan through!
I’ve gathered together all the shit nicasia did to cardan: being the first girl he loved then breaking his heart w his friend, allowing cardan to catch them ON HIS BEDROOM FLOOR. (not entirely her fault but she totally had shits and giggles abt it when cardan confronted her) then when Locke screwed her over, she got CARDAN and his power as prince, to harass the girl(s) locke chose over her, one of which cardan liked, then later on was trying to manipulate him to marry her (which i think is when cardan realized they weren’t rly even friends anymore), THEN kidnapping and torturing the girl she knew cardan loved, AND befriending his abusive neglectful mother!
like damn. how u even fumble that bad, not just romantically but as a friend.
also I’d like to add her consistent entitlement, not just the whole “i bully girls bc I’m a princess and i can!” but the “cardan take me back even after i emotionally ruined you multiple times!” 😐
poor cardan
anyway, I’ve read lots of holly black books, and she is VERY mindful w abusive sort of relationships. and cheating relationships. she writes about them a LOT and each time they are pretty irredeemable.
note(the only exceptions):Taryn and hazel (darkest part of the forest) who sorta cheated on accident/ it wasn’t their fault-> but didn’t end well
add on note sorry: “but nicasia cheated on cardan on accident bc Locke was a gancanagh!” false! nicasia admitted that what her and Locke were doing was prolonged, the scene that cardan finds them is not their first time screwing around. nicasia KNOWINGLY cheated on cardan. then she was like “ok but i still care abt u! take me back” ?
now you can say that it could sorta be classified as an accident due to lockes natures (which are actually really disturbing if u think abt it) and that’s true, i never blamed nicasia for that relationship, but i do blame her for all the utter dogshit she not only put cardan thru, but Jude.
and this is cardan we are talking about. he who killed half an army for Jude when madoc tried taking his daughter back (sounds funny out of context).
we must remember that cardan does not want Jude hurt and humiliated and that’s exactly what nicasia went and did to Jude. through all the books bro. nicasia literally kidnapped and tortured Jude in the undersea so there’s 0 chance of cardan touching nicasia unless maybe to turn her into a tree again (but he can always just do that at a distance 😛)
anyway back to the cheating:
which is why i know that holly would never pull any sort of bull w cardan and nicasia, and you may be thinking (well that’s bullshit what do u know?) 3 separate books w cheating tropes, and 5+ diff relationships that involve cheating w no redemption. LOL
anyway black and i certainly agree on that front, and the way she uses the trope so consistently, and makes it so the cheaters are never endgame, or have a horrible death (Locke AND his mom, also Eva Duarte 😭the dude Ben dated from dpotf, and Kaye and that guy Janet was dating, Val and Tom and dave and lolli (modern faerie tales)) is pretty telling!
holly is great at writing healthy relationships, and she knows that tcp is her biggest hit w the media, so she won’t go and fuck that, not just bc she would never and it’s out of her writing style and character and literally moral compass when it comes to writing relationships, but also bc her publishers/editors would NEVER let that slide.
but i can’t wait for her book! i love knowing that nicasia will never have a chance w cardan again, it’s no less than what she deserves 😋
anyway sorry for ranting! I just feel so strongly abt this topic, cardan would never cheat on Jude, since he’s been cheated on before, and it was heart wrenching, and bc of his upbringing, he would never. if you haven’t, go thru my masterlist in my pinned and find the cardan /nicasia thing where i explain why he wouldn’t cheat far better there!
But feel free to add on, i probably missed a few things so lmk!! 🫶
"Ekko would have never loved Jinx, as much as he did Powder"
See this is where you're wrong.
He loves her.
It didn't matter if she was Jinx or Powder...he never stopped loving her...no matter how many times he tried to convince himself otherwise.
No matter how many times they were on opposite sides.
Even though he gave up on her....
He would always love her.
Ekko knew what he wanted from a very early age
The way he still looks at her like she's the prettiest thing in the world. 😭
Black cat and orange cat, grumpy and sunshine, musician friend and gamer friend, pink and blue duo ✨
In my head they are bestiez and no one can convince me otherwise tbh
yes
Insane that Jinx showed the “worst” of herself to the child to drive the kid away only for the child to see the humanity in Jinx and risk their life to save her
KMS.
There is a clear difference between Jude fans on Tumblr and Jude fans on Tik Tok.
On Tumblr, people actually get Jude's character. They go more into her character and get/understand who she actually is. That there is more to her and how she's a selfless person that will do anything for the people she loves.
On Tik Tok, she's only a killer. That's it. She's just morally grey to them. I mean yeah, she killed people but she isn't the unhinged killer that TT fans perceive her as. The "You're not a killer, Jude" thing and how they go on saying, "then she kills Valerian!" Nah, Madoc means that she isn't like him. Jude is a killer but she's not a true killer. MADOC DIPS A CLOAK IN THE BLOOD OF THE PEOPLE HE KILLS. And they always use that fanart of her with blood on her head. I do like it but y'all stay using it, get something else.
The people who glaze Jude annoy me. The ones who think that she can defeat anyone because she's a human who has tricked her way and killed a couple of fae. If you tell them that there are characters who can defeat her, they go "NUH UH." FUCK YOU MEAN?
The slideshows where they put four characters and say who will win and people have the audacity to say "Jude will win." My girl is NOT winning this, I'm sorry. She's still human at the end of the day. It's only fair if you put her against other human characters like Kaz Brekker or Aaron Warner.
I saw a slideshow that had Jude, Feyre, Aelin, and Fang Runin. In the comments, someone said "They would just team up and be friends." Nah. Jude would be disgusted by Rin and her actions, Feyre and Aelin too. Rin committed genocide. And I don't think Rin is capable of making friends besides Kitay. Why would Jude be friends with a woman who committed heinous crimes like this?
The mischaracterization of Jude will never not piss me off.