Everything You Said Regarding Haylor Is Right. This Is Why I Have A Pet Peeve When People Use MR To Haylor

Everything you said regarding haylor is right. This is why I have a pet peeve when people use MR to haylor edits. If anything they were both midnight rain and that's what drew them closer. They were constantly looking for light in other people to balance the darkness. Their relationship itself and the parallels between them as individuals is what makes us still talk about them. Not because we think they are meant to be. Harry and Taylor fandom has the biggest crossover of fans because there is an undeniable/unintentional mirroring that fans are unintentionally drawn to. I lost the count regarding the number of people who compared HsH and 1989 era and overexposure(though T had it worse because of misogyny). There is an unintentional parallelism in their music even when the songs have nothing to do with each other. They are the BIGGEST male and female pop artist RN and through their music we know they struggle with similar issues (listening to AIW and Dear Reader back to back is one hell of an experience. ) Which is why they need partners who can give them stability and comfort. T knew it after 1989 era and found it. And considering the way HsH era has gone I won't be surprised if harry came to a similar understanding. (And I hope he finds it someday). Like you said they were meant to meet because without these dead end streets Taylor wouldn't have met joe.

people have used "he was sunshine/i was midnight rain" for...harry...??? "chasing that fame, he stayed the same"????? how

i love what you said about them both being midnight rain, they really are - and this JUST made me connect ttds/midnight rain to changes, the song harry gave to cam. "there is a town, somewhere down a country road/I see it now, I take it everywhere I go/the river sways, I can almost hear it now/as if to say, "You're not the only one who wants a way out"/so, I go 'cause I don't wanna feel like I don't know you anymore/I memorize those roads.../God bless the young hearts sippin' cheap wine/Gettin' drunk with their friends for the first time/Thinkin' nothing's gonna change/'Til everything changes/They never leave/They're all havin' babies now/Watchin' daytime TV/Livin' off the gossip of a cruel small town/So, I go/'Cause I don't wanna feel like you don't know me anymore/Don't recognize my face," and that's very connected to love of my life too: "take you with me every time i go away, in a hotel usin' someone else's name.../i don't know you half as well as all my friends, i can't pretend i won't be doin' everything i can, to get to know your creases and your ends, are they the same?" it's: the road not taken looks real good now, and it always leads to you and my hometown. and it's: i guess sometimes we all get just what we wanted, and he never thinks of me, except when i'm on tv. they are the midnight rain, the one dreaming to get out, escaping, and finding themselves haunted. "we're just two ghosts standing in the place of you and me..."

They were constantly looking for light in other people to balance the darkness. this is very interesting in them too, because they're often perceived as light/bubbly/upbeat people (and they both do have that sparkle and those bright aspects!), but then we know from the songs they've written and things they've shared that they grapple with their darkness and loneliness too.

Their relationship itself and the parallels between them as individuals is what makes us still talk about them. Not because we think they are meant to be. Harry and Taylor fandom has the biggest crossover of fans because there is an undeniable/unintentional mirroring that fans are unintentionally drawn to...There is an unintentional parallelism in their music even when the songs have nothing to do with each other. exactly! the reason why many fans love them both and connect in similar ways to their music is because that mirrored expression and empathy and artistry draws us in! there are themes and emotions they both express that we connect to. the expressionism in how they craft their lyrics and how they present their art strikes something in us.

listening to AIW and Dear Reader back to back is one hell of an experience. oh nooo, i've never done this! you're no good alone /// a house, not a home, all alone 'cause nobody's there /// why are you sitting at home on the floor, what kind of pills are you on? /// my fourth drink in my hand, these desperate prayers of a cursed man...ouch 💔

yes, they need that groundedness and quiet and comfort to balance everything else out. the person who only wants sweet nothing. without all of the exes, fights, and flaws, we wouldn't be standing here so tall. all of the dead end streets led you straight to me, out of all the wrong arms right into that dive bar...and i think that makes so much sense, that you need someone constant and who gives you a sense of peace and freedom and completion to be your whole self, and who loves you in the best and the worst of it. the person who loves you for you, in the noise and the silence.

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2 years ago

idk if y’all know this or not but Taylor Swift’s fourth studio album Red is one of the best albums of all time regardless of what small-minded “critics“ may say it told a beautiful, compelling, heartbreaking, and cohesive story about losing an intense love at a young age and it conveyed every individual feeling associated with heartbreak perfectly from the way the drums and the guitar in state of grace spell out a warning to the way treacherous has you on the edge of your seat with goosebumps to the unparalleled heartbreak the bass drop in ikywt says “this pain i feel isn’t just your fault, it’s my fault too” to the beautiful story that you can see play out in your head in all too well to the determination of keeping a toxic relationship out of your life and feeling good about it in wanegbt to the feeling of looking back on a love and realizing what you had was beautiful in holy ground to the feeling of pure, real, unadulterated sorrow that comes with the finality of ending something that was beautiful in sad beautiful tragic to the hopeful ending of the album when you realize that love can come back into your life when you’re ready to let it in in begin again and then the tragically forgotten bonus tracks the moment i knew that tells the story of the singular moment you realize the person you want the most isn’t coming back to you and come back be here that describes with painful conviction the feeling of being separated from the only person you want to see i mean no offense but if you don’t understand how amazing this album is then you don’t understand what it means to feel

1 year ago

Do you know where Taylor said she was giving up on relationships for a while? I feel like I remember that but can't find it

it was in her rolling stone cover story! (a lot of the press she did at that time is tinged with things that are saddening to revisit, but also clear on what her perspective was. the vogue 73 questions is another one):

"In fact, she suggests, she hasn’t dated at all since breaking up with One Direction singer Harry Styles more than a year and a half ago. “Like, have not gone on a date,” she says. “People are going to feel sorry for me when you write that. But it’s true.” Swift says dating is hard for her. For one thing, there’s the logistics. “Seventy percent of the time, when a guy asks me out, it’ll just be a random e-mail,” she says. Some movie star will get her address from his publicist and e-mail her cold. Usually she politely rebuffs them – but even if someone did penetrate that line of defense, building a relationship is hard. “I feel like watching my dating life has become a bit of a national pastime,” Swift says. “And I’m just not comfortable providing that kind of entertainment anymore. I don’t like seeing slide shows of guys I’ve apparently dated. I don’t like giving comedians the opportunity to make jokes about me at awards shows. I don’t like it when headlines read ‘Careful, Bro, She’ll Write a Song About You,’ because it trivializes my work. And most of all, I don’t like how all these factors add up to build the pressure so high in a new relationship that it gets snuffed out before it even has a chance to start. And so,” she says, “I just don’t date.” (That goes for hooking up as well. “I just think it’s pointless if you’re not in love,” Swift says. “And I don’t have the energy to be in love right now. So, no.”) Truth be told, Swift sounds a tiny bit jaded – which, for a “self-professed hopeless romantic,” maybe isn’t the worst thing to be. “It’s not like I’ve sworn off love,” she says. “My life is just not conducive to bringing other people into it right now. I’m very childlike and romantic about lots of things, but I’m realistic about this.” [....] it’s not bad that I’m not hopelessly in love with someone. It’s not a tragedy, and it’s not me giving up and being a spinster. Although I did get another cat.” She laughs. “I asked around: I was like, ‘Does two cats count as cats?’ But then I thought, what imaginary guy’s perspective am I thinking about this from? Someone is going to think I’m undateable for a lot of reasons before they think I’m undateable because I have two cats.”"

eta: the above still applies, but i was actually remembering her glamour magazine interview with this -

"Yeah, I do feel jaded about relationships, to be honest. I think the media has sent me a really unfair message over the past couple of years, which is that I’m not allowed to date for excitement, or fun, or new experiences or learning lessons. I’m only allowed to date if it’s for a lasting, multiple-year relationship. Otherwise I’m a, quote, ‘serial dater’. Or, quote, ‘boy crazy’. The narrative has been so wrong, every time it was the same. It’s 'Taylor spotted talking to this guy, she’s chasing him.’ They create a beginning to the story that didn’t happen most of the time, so then they have to create an ending. So they always go to the same fabricated ending that every other tabloid has used in my story, which is, 'She got too clingy’, or 'Taylor has too many emotions, she scared him away’. Which has honestly never been the reason for any of my break-ups. You know what has been the reason? The media. You take something very fragile, like trying to get to know someone, and it feels like walking out into the middle of a gladiator arena with someone you’ve just met. And all of a sudden the public and the media are allowed to say thumbs up or thumbs down. So I just don’t try it anymore."

1 year ago

but the theory doesn’t insist on the song being about calvin or joe tho especially joe because it’s before they met? i think maybe she had some parts done in 2015 here but redid it later in 2016 and changed it obviously

But The Theory Doesn’t Insist On The Song Being About Calvin Or Joe Tho Especially Joe Because It’s
But The Theory Doesn’t Insist On The Song Being About Calvin Or Joe Tho Especially Joe Because It’s

Rep Timeline-ish?

Part Two Part One here

2016 cont..

August 29 - "This summer is the apocalypse" Nashville, TN [Lover Journals], Taylor attends jury duty in Nashville

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August 31 - Taylor seen in NY

September 2 - Taylor begins writing Gorgeous in Cornelia St apartment

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September 6 - Taylor papped leaving gym in NY, writing King Of My Heart

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September 9 - Taylor papped leaving gym in NY

September 16 - Still writing Gorgeous - Now in Nashville

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September 17 - Taylor attends Music City Wine and Food Festival in Nashville. Writing Gorgeous after festival (same outfit)

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September 19 - Taylor flies to NY and attends Max Martin & Shellback studio. (The Swift Life video) Works on Gorgeous, I Did Something Bad, Delicate & King Of My Heart

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September 20 - King Of My Heart bridge in LA

September 21 - Records King Of My Heart at Max Martin & Shellback studio.

September 27 - Taylor attends dinner in NYC at the Waverly Inn with Cara, Jack, Lorde, Suki Waterhouse and Sienna Miller

October - November - Harry recording HS1 in Jamaica

October 12 - Taylor & Joe attend Kings of Leon concert at Le Poisson Rouge in NYC, afterparty at The Bowery Hotel. October 15 - Taylor attends Elliot Sumner's party. Delicate is written/recorded somewhere here - See Taylors neck tattoo in making of:

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Rep Timeline-ish?

October 21 - "Someday" is released.

October 22 - Taylor performs at F1 in Austin

October 23 - Taylor attends Drakes birthday with golden tattoo

October 28 - Taylor flies to London, MIA

October 31 - Taylor returns to NYC, Deadpool halloween

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November 12 - Taylor attends Joe's movie screening at Arclight Theatre: "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" November 23 - Taylor papped in NY

December 09 - I Don't Wanna Live Forever released.

December 28 - Unconfirmed haylor sighting.

2017

January 03 - "Living in London, hiding out. Joe and I have been together 3 months" [Lover Journals]

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January 08 - I Don't Wanna Live Forever video filmed in London.

January 11 - Taylor papped leaving gym in LA, attends Conway Studios. (Don't Blame Me recorded at Conway) She's also wearing her "J" necklace in these vids

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February 18 - Taylor spotted in London

April 04 - Taylor recording reputation in Nashville (The hair around this time seems to be matching that in the Jack tracks from rep. He's wearing the same T-shirt in Getaway Car & This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things. Call It What You Want is also around here

April 18 - Harry's Rolling Stone interview

April 29 - Harry celebrates the anniversary of April 29.

May 12 - Harry releases HS1

May 14 - Taylor papped in Nashville, leaves for London

Mid May - …Ready For It? recorded at MXM Studios in Sweden

May 18 - Harry on Carpool Karaoke, wears Haylor ring.

May 20 - Haylor anniversary. Harry emotional on stage, sings Landslide with Stevie Nicks.

June 01 - Taylor & Joe leave London for LA, then Nashville

June 03 - Joe & Taylor papped in Nashville

June 11 – Joe disembarks Taylor’s jet in London.

June 18 – Taylor in London for fathers day.

June 30 – Taylor & Joe disembark Taylor’s jet in Rhode Island

July - Harry & Camile

July 15 – End Game written. Ed Sheeran confirms that they started working on it when he was in Mohegan Sun, Connecticut for his Divide Tour and Taylor was staying in RI.

July 19 - Dunkirk released

July 24 – Joe & Taylor papped leaving gym in NYC

August 21 - Taylor films …Ready For It? music video

August 28 - Taylor deletes Instagram

September 03 - …Ready For It? released

Mid September - Taylor writes and records So It Goes. (Final track recorded with Martin & Shellback) Rep mag track listings don't match up indicating last minute adjustments

October 20 - Gorgeous released

October 26 - …Ready For It? MV released

November 02 - Call It What You Want released

November 10 - reputation released

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1 year ago

every anti-taylor swift tumblr post: she writes boring pop music with lyrics that paint her as a perfect girlboss queen

every time taylor swift writes a song: have i become one of your problems / you don't want to know me i will just let you down / the rain is always gonna come if you're standing with me / never take advice from someone who's fallen apart / you can't talk to me when i'm like this daring you to leave me just so i can try and scare you / i had the shiniest wheels now they're rusting / every single thing i touch is sick with sadness / they see right through me can you see right through me i see right through me / did i close my fist around something delicate did i shatter you / when i break it's in a million pieces / i broke his heart 'cause he was nice / there are so many lines that i've crossed unforgiven / put on your records and regret meeting me i bent the truth too far tonight / can't not think of all the cost and the things that will be lost / i drew curtains closed drank my poison all alone / do you miss the rogue who coaxed you into paradise and left you there / to a house not a home all alone 'cause nobody's there / why'd i have to break what i love so much / i wounded the good and i trusted the wicked clearing the air i breathed in the smoke / i should not be left to my own devices they come with prices and vices i end up in crisis / i miss who i used to be the tomb won't close / in my defense i have none / i'm a mess but i'm the mess that you wanted / here i sit alone behind walls of regret falling down like promises that i never kept / what will become of me once i've lost my novelty / everything that's mine is a landmine

1 year ago

May 20th - date of significance? Yes.

Harry released Harry’s House on May 20, 2022. After waiting many months to release Fine Line on Blondie’s 30th birthday, and after writing the bulk of this album in mid 2020, we can assume he chose this date for a reason. Here’s my proposed reason why.

But first - this requires acknowledging that the official, public Haylor origin story of 2012 is incomplete. Yes, they met in late March, eventually took a break, and picked up again in the fall. But based on Harry’s random flights, their mutual habit of vanishing simultaneously (no photos, fan or otherwise) and the lyrical information they’ve disclosed over the years - there is way more to the story.

Let’s call May, June, and very July of that year the Cruel Summer of 2012.

A bunch of stuff likely seemed to have happened in early May (that’ll be a future post about how the Sweeran origin story is also contradictory). But here we are, mid May.

Taylor is living in LA and mostly in the studio. There’s a stretch mid-month where she seems to disappear. Recall - this is the summer where she rents the house in Hyannis Port for many months.

On May 20th, 5 boys and their crew are spotted at the airport in London, flying to Boston Logan to embark on a couple months touring/doing promo in North America. Take a look at young H:

May 20th - Date Of Significance? Yes.

He is CARRYING ON an acoustic guitar, which he can barely play, rather than sending it ahead with all their other instruments and luggage.

The band lands in Boston; 4 guys head to the Mohegan Sun in CT (where they will play a concert soon) and are photographed by fans. And this guy? Vanishes.

Recall the secret message for Everything Has Changed, which Taylor brought to Ed almost totally done for recording on May 27, 2012:

May 20th - Date Of Significance? Yes.

This song, if you’ll recall, talks of a green-eyed smiling man whose eyes “look like coming home”.

Red was finalized at the very beginning of June; Taylor met the Kennedy grandsons on July 4th weekend. The timing does not work, especially since it was recorded in late May (with pap photos of Taylor and Ed outside the Santa Monica studio that day).

But MORE that that, something else occurs that day. It’s described in a 2014 song by Alex and Sierra written by Harry, and outlined in greater detail by Taylor on folklore. It’s a day described in august:

May 20th - Date Of Significance? Yes.
May 20th - Date Of Significance? Yes.

And…ah…perhaps this was also the date for some of the other events described in august?

And lest you think the whole thing wasn’t significant to Harry…by May 27 or 28, the boy gets his second tattoo. It’s a small capital A on the inside of his left elbow, seen for the first time here:

May 20th - Date Of Significance? Yes.

In an interview given by the boys in early July, Harry is asked about the tattoo (which had been drawn by Zayn, our OG Haylor). I cannot link directly to the interview - search for One Direction Granada TV interview on YT. And at 2:30, Harry is asked the significance of the tattoo.

Harry: oh, it’s for my….ah…ah..it’s for me mum.

Boys: laugh heartily at him

Louis: No it’s not! No, it’s not! It’s for a mystery blond!!

Reader, recall that Blondie publishes all of her songs as Taylor A. Swift.

Ten years later, on May 20, 2022, Harry’s House is released.

And on May 20, 2023, during a rain show at Boston’s Gillette stadium, Taylor Swift tells the crowd “I’ve never been so happy in my life in all aspects of my life…my life finally feels like it makes sense.” And that she will play them “this song, which brings me a lot of happy memories”: Question…?

ETA: Want to know what his next two tattoos are? He has them in this late June photo

May 20th - Date Of Significance? Yes.

- the word “Hi” (“all I know is we said hello, and your eyes looks like coming home)

- the (misquoted) lyrics from Temper Trap’s Sweet Disposition, which happen to be the line which follows *the secret message for Treacherous*. Which he starts kissing while singing love songs starting the day after he gets the tattoo.

2 years ago

““Shake It Off” and “Clean” were the last two things we wrote for the record, so it shows you where I ended up mentally. “Clean” I wrote as I was walking out of Liberty in London. Someone I used to date—it hit me that I’d been in the same city as him for two weeks and I hadn’t thought about it. When it did hit me, it was like, Oh, I hope he’s doing well. And nothing else. And you know how it is when you’re going through heartbreak. A heartbroken person is unlike any other person. Their time moves at a completely different pace than ours. It’s this mental, physical, emotional ache and feeling so conflicted. Nothing distracts you from it. Then time passes, and the more you live your life and create new habits, you get used to not having a text message every morning saying, “Hello, beautiful. Good morning.” You get used to not calling someone at night to tell them how your day was. You replace these old habits with new habits, like texting your friends in a group chat all day and planning fun dinner parties and going out on adventures with your girlfriends, and then all of a sudden one day you’re in London and you realize you’ve been in the same place as your ex for two weeks and you’re fine. And you hope he’s fine. The first thought that came to my mind was, I’m finally clean. I’d been in this media hailstorm of people having a very misconstrued perception of who I was. There were really insensitive jokes being made at awards shows by hosts; there were snarky headlines in the press—"Taylor Goes Through a Breakup: Well, That Was Swift!“—focusing on all the wrong things.”

— Taylor Swift on Clean (x)

1 year ago

The way she loved him so much to the point where she would have been okay with being called a slut if that meant she could have him! And the way she is possessive over his couch and snarky that he is dating her clowns while wondering why he didn't say I love you

I KNOWWWWW she was so fucking in love with him and felt insane. i am thinking about her ayhtdws speech on tour. the one where she said that people deserve more than someone who can't make up their mind and say they love you. he hurt her so bad and the worst part is in all his songs after that, he didn't ever seem to notice. he speaks so frequently of his hurt. she sings of his hurt a couple times (particularly in ootw and question). but when does he ever mention hers?

it's a tragic thing in their story where she was always more aware than he was and always more emotionally intelligent.

1 year ago
December 2012: People Magazine
December 2012: People Magazine

December 2012: People magazine

1 year ago

THEYRE JUST TREES TAYLOR

1 year ago

whats your take on the first verse of is it over now? i don’t really get it

it's her listing all the moments that the relationship should have/could have been over! once the flight flew, once the flowers died, once she slept alone...all of those could have been relationship enders, but they weren't. this comes back in the second verse too: when he lost control, when they both got hurt, when she was all alone on that boat, when his new s/o looked exactly like taylor. but it isn't over! there's takeout coffees, she sees him everywhere, he dreams of what it was like before she got mad about the fucking around, he's sleeping with everyone to get past her, they're going on blind dates with other people, she's sleeping with other men, he's still sleeping with more other women, he's dreaming of her and yet......still not done. and she's mad about it! she's mad that he's doing the same thing she's doing and getting away with it while she's getting shamed for less—and making her watch this. she's mad that he's looking everywhere for an answer when the answer is her. she's daydreaming about doing crazy fucking things to get his attention because her matching his sleeping around isn't working. what a good song.

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no other sadness in the world would do.she/her

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