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thoughts on the julius is the 4th zogratis theory ( youtuber called broku made a vid on it )

OK, I ended up letting this sit in the inbox for a while but here's my 2 cents

It's pure bullshit for two main reasons:

1) Julius is not the 4th sibling because it doesn't make sense via his character arc/written character

And

2) We already know/can guess who the 4th Zogratis Sibling is

We know for a fact that the Zogratis sibs all have magic that is connected to the human body. Julius' time magic fits nowhere in that. It's likely that the 4th sibling has some form of mind/soul magic to complete that.

With Julius, we have canon evidence of him getting a clover grimoire and him living in Clover, which contradicts how he could be in 2 places at the same time. Not just that, but the thing about us not knowing a lot about the Novachrono house? Same goes with the Roselei, Legolant and Gravorka houses but nobody's pointing fingers there for some reason.

(Ie he was likely around 27 when the Spade Coup happened, and, if we think about it, he would have likely been even younger when we first see the Zogratis 4th sib).

It also wouldn't make sense if Julius had managed to become a Grey Deer and the magic King when he wasn't in a register. We saw how they treated Nero with it, and as you can tell it would have been a lot worse back in the past. Pretty sure Clover has some unwritten "must be clover Nobility to apply for Wizard King position", since there haven't been any talks of a commoner/peasant Wizard king until Asta and Yuno crashed teh political party.

The mark on his forehead? The swallowtail magic tool is literally that.

Him having time magic which means he's devil contracted? literally doesnt need to be a zogratis for julius to be possessed by a devil, if he even was possessed and somehow managed to hide it for over 30 years (especially with Damnatio poking his nose everywhere)

All that, and the main thing that disproves this?

We already know who the 4th Zogratis sibling is.

It's Vergil Zogratis.

Dante's name is inspired by the Divine Comedy, where Dante Aligheri travels through hell.

Here's the thing, he doesn't travel alone. The one that takes him on the trip to Inferno, is Vergilius.

Vergil, who he looks up to and has encyclopedic knowledge of hell, who literally walks Dante through hell and explains everything to him. We LITERALLY see that his first pieces of dialogue is about Zenon being prime devil host material.

It's already kind of obvious that Vergil is dead (number 4 meaning death, he was already dying when Zenon was baby,) by the time of the coup. But the fact still stands that Vergil was undeniably the one to pull the Zogratis family into demonology.

Vergil likely was pushy for Zenon, prime subject, to become devil host and may have orchestrated Allen's death. All of the siblings obviously look up to Vergil. Zenon for being kindest to him, Vanica because he likely brought lots of strong people and power her way via devil contract and Dante by instilling his philosophy to him and letting him carry on his message.

Virgillius was a poet who wrote the Aenaeid and one who Dante Alighieri VERY much adored. Wouldn't be off for Dante to to look up to Vergil Zogratis if he was basically raised by him.

Another thing, we can guess that Vergil would be contracted to Astaroth, the time devil. Astaroth's main powers include knowledge of all that is time (Past, Present, Future) and has a foul breath that you needed an amulet for to repell.

Would it be a stretch that Vergil made a contract with Astaroth for Knowledge but the more he was told, the sicker he would get? I'm betting my left ass cheek on it.