Moon Isnt Actually Conscious In The Watcher, I Checked And There Isnt Any Flower In The Hunter's Deathplace.

moon isnt actually conscious in the watcher, i checked and there isnt any flower in the hunter's deathplace. meaning no slag reset. the watcher's strand of reality isnt one that happened in the actual material world as far as i can tell, just an imagined "dream plane" (like moon mentions in the karma flower dialogue). one that never truly happened in the 'collective' plane

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i just wonder how watcher!moon felt, realising that the rot was going to continue spreading everywhere, outside of pebbles' control. like nilla!moon definitely has some very complex emotions towards him (& herself). i get the impression that she's angry, worried, afraid... and of course we know how msc!moon feels towards pebbles.

but watcher!moon... imagine what an awful realisation that would be? and such an awful position to have that realisation in. she's already collapsed, already lost most of her memories, already afraid of dying whether by wild animals or by the rain or just sheer bad luck. and then the rot slowly spreads into her chamber, absorbing her environment, the last remnants of her can ... and knowing it's probably already taken pebbles? her brother?

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Do you love the color of the North American teiid lizards?

Aspidoscelis tigris, western or California whiptail. this lizard has a reddish background with black
Aspidoscelis hyperythrus, orange throated whiptail. this lizard is black and white striped with a deep orange throat.
Aspidoscelis angusticeps, Yucatán whiptail. this lizard has a black and yellow striped body with a long orange tail and back legs.
Aspidoscelis neomexicanus, New Mexico whiptail- yes, this is the all female lesbian only species. this is a yellow and brown striped lizard.
Aspidoscelis gularis, Texas spotted whiptail. this lizard has green, brown, and yellow stripes, and the brown stripes have yellow spots.
Aspidoscelis gularis, Texas spotted whiptail (male). this lizard has yellow and brown stripes, with a reddish pink throat and blue sides.
Aspidoscelis costatus, western Mexico whiptail. this lizard had a green back and dark brown sides.
Aspidoscelis deppii, blackbelly racerunner. this lizard has multicoloured stripes and a blue underbelly and jaw.
Aspidoscelis motaguae, giant whiptail. this lizard has green and blue patches with an orangey back.
 Aspidoscelis arizonae, Arizona striped whiptail. this lizard has blue feet, tail, and lower jaw, and the rest is brown with yellow stripes.
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1 month ago

Rain World - THE EFFERVESCENCE and some various theories built off of it

EDIT: now that Watcher's out my actual reading of all this is a bit different. Once I look at that more I might post a new thing so... Watcher quasi-spoilers I guess?

Firstly, consider:

Rain World - THE EFFERVESCENCE And Some Various Theories Built Off Of It

Anyways,

You know that weird shit James said on an art month stream last year or so I think? Someone asks him what the deal with Hunter being "karmically imbalanced" is and he says this:

"It takes a certain level of karmic alignment to sort of translate the barrier between realities."

Lydia chuckles because of this quote afterwards. Obviously, her subliminal pointer gives away that this statement is a Rosetta Stone-esque lore revelation that will educate a new, objectively correct model of Rain World's reality - and the coming story that will break it.

Remember the rambling in the Ripple trailer? To summarize: droplets fall upon a body of still water, which send ripples outward. As more and more droplets fall, these ripples form countless interactions and create a chaotic "effervescence."

Each droplet symbolizes a singular "unit" of the cycle. Each "unit" is probably either the life of an individual or an entire reality. For this particular post I'm going with droplets as realities.

Overall, I think this ramble can be used to visualize how the cycle behaves according to the perspective of a Slugcat. (Fair warning that it's basically a very loose adaptation of the timeline-based cycle theory that I know Some of you hate.)

Ripple Collisions and Reality Transfers

While each droplet and its ripples (each reality) initially exist as its own distinct entity, their ripples eventually collide with those of another droplet. Here, the barrier that separates realities is lessened, and transfer is possible. When you die and wake up again, your Essence™ (whatever comprises You™, not sure what) is carried along this collision to a living version of You, in a parallel reality. This transfer expends karma (or expels a Karma Flower, which also gets carried with you).

It may be initially strange to think that collisions conveniently occur at the exact same moment a creature dies; rather, it's important to remember that karma seems to exist on its plane and that the ripples do not sync with time in the same fashion.

"Karmic Alignment" and Hunter

You also need a certain degree of "alignment" to be properly carried through the collisions of these ripples. Hunter is misaligned in some way, which is correlated with their illness & general karmic fuckery (note: idk whether alignment or illness is the root cause).

This misalignment creates friction when crossing between the barriers of realities. Hunter outright cannot perceive the existence of Flowers and they live on borrowed time before this dealignment rips them from their life entirely; completely unable to be carried along the ripples.

After Hunter dies, it's a bit of a toss-up. A super-Karma Flower is created that persists in Monk and Survivor, and Hunter will apparently "wake up again" anyway according to Moon. Even in this truly dealigned state, Hunter's Essence™ will return somehow.

I kinda doubt Hunter simply turns into a Flower, because of the meta aspect of repeating runs as Hunter (which I see as a part of the experience) feels symbolic of a more "complete" return to form.

Perhaps their inability to translate the ripple barriers means that they're forced to persist and return within the same reality they were doomed in. Hunter's shambling Rot corpse in Downpour is actually a very decent analog for this, though I'm not 100% satisfied with this answer because the reset symbolism is lost.

Ok But What About Watcher

First, let's look at the words of the unknown-possibly-Pebbles-considering-where-the-voicelines-come-from-iterator from the ARG.

They greet their "shadow", claiming that they "have drifted, (...) dispersed in the multitudes of the waves and the ripples." This seems to suggest that this individual is unwillingly moving through these realities at speeds or distances beyond normal, or they're possibly even shattered between all these realities.

According to the iterator, the shadow has a "thread" that they can follow to eventually return to how they once were; their preferred reality or an unfractured Essence.

The shadow is most likely referring to the Watcher... assuming the Watcher even is the Slugcat we play as. After all, the speaker does say they've been watching the shadow instead.

I think the iterator and the shadow (our slugcat) may be the same being; they together make the Watcher. The iterator is fragmented across realities (which is possibly fucking up those realities in turn, i.e. the various references to "cracks and crumbles"), but the shadow acts as some kind of extension or envoy whose behavior can help reunite the iterator into their whole.

Going by teasers like the pink sky region, the clear lack of rain in the Badlands region (due to the locusts, which I presume are a new end-of-cycle threat), and the generally fantastical nature of what we've seen (especially in that weird whale), I think the Watcher DLC definitely takes place in an alternate reality. Or alternate realities, plural?

Maybe the shadow ferries together the fragments of the iterator so that it can perform something greater, when it is reborn whole.

Rain World - THE EFFERVESCENCE And Some Various Theories Built Off Of It

It's 2am and I think it's fun to pretend that whatever I just wrote is a comprehensive thought, closed off with a nice little bowtie, so I'm just going to say it is


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2 weeks ago
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How do you think the rot lizards came to be? /genq

Rot uses existing lizards as hosts, creating the partially infected lizards that still have the uniquely colored heads. These probably work in a commensalism fashion, with the rot keeping the lizard body intact, but also using it primarily to protect itself and get more food this way.

The rot gains from the relationship, but the lizard doesn't gain or lose anything really

How Do You Think The Rot Lizards Came To Be? /genq

After absorbing so much information about lizards, eventually the rot starts to make its OWN version that sprout from cysts, and create the "fully infected" lizards

How Do You Think The Rot Lizards Came To Be? /genq

I believe this primarily because rot loaches have an entirely separate code and are a different creature from typical loaches, and spawn in a place they hadn't before, making me believe that this can happen to other creatures as well

1 month ago

was. i mean was incorrsct. not am. i have realised my mistake im not agruing on an incorrect point intentionally while knowing it is not correct. i have to stop miscommunicaitng everythign in this post oh my god

Dyou think Pebbles wouldve started Hearing The Voices™ when his rot reached a certain state of infection or is his rot detached from the "kingdom"

His rot is So detatched from Prince. Prince barely knows what an iterator is outside of what the memories of the benefactors have given him

Pebbles' rot is made of his own neuron matter, and is more just a parallel to the already existing sentient rot

RW is full of things that parallel, but aren't directly related

3 weeks ago
Bittern Time:) Here Are A Bunch Of Doodles + All The Different Species
Bittern Time:) Here Are A Bunch Of Doodles + All The Different Species

Bittern time:) here are a bunch of doodles + all the different species


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