Was Born In 2005, I'm 19 Now, Lol. So I Was 2 Years Old In 2007.

Next poem to post. Kinda rushed through. Have we being used.

Tw/cw: Chained up animal, caged animal, growling mention, biting mention, clawing mention, hissing mention.

- Shay (They/it)

Not Wild and Not Tamed

Chained up and caged.

Not human is what we are.

Not wild and not tamed.

We growl and bite.

We hiss and claw.

Not wild and not tamed.

We aren't a pet.

We aren't free.

Not wild and not tamed.

Chained up to a fence.

Caged in like a threat.

Not wild and not tamed.

We are probably being very dumb right now, but what do you mean? (To Icky/ @leashme )

- Shay

putting this on main actually;

it annoys me to death when folks say stuff like “i’m not a therian, im a [xyz animal]”

because hey that’s what a therian is!

to say you don’t identify as a therian because you just ARE that animal is to say that therians AREN’T really the animal they claim to be. which is so wrong. to say you don’t like the term therian because it’s ‘too human’ is so insensitive.

therians are not necessarily human! someone calling themself a therian in no way makes them human! equating therians with humans is weird!

stop treating us like we are human, stop trying to separate ‘really being an animal’ from being a therian. they are the same thing. you’re not superior or different to us because you “really are that animal”. we all are.

What is meant by "lower" fronting is not the main/primary fronter. Basically, more of a "backseat driver" type of fronting in a way. We just didn't know what to really call it at first.

No real clue on the planning things in the back often.

Maybe? We aren't entirely sure how exactly memory and stuff works with our plurality.

- Shay 🐾

What’s it like when an alter has planned something in the back? Do you just get a fully formed plan popping into your head, or do they talk you through it? Do you just switch?

Hello!!!

Considering I am, as far as we can tell so far, always fronting in some way (sometimes I am just technically "lower" fronting but still fronting). The switch part isn't really true.

It's probably a mixture of the other 2 things, though. Also, sometimes they join front or take over the "main"/primary fronting, and I go into "lower" fronting, but that's not as common.

Usually, when the others join me in front, it's as a secondary (tertiary, etc) fronter rather than the primary fronter.

Hope this answered your question!

- Shay 🐾

We'd love to hear more about median plurals.

Cause we are kinda wondering if we (Shay subpack) are a median subpack cause we are technically all parts of Shay.

We are different from our other packmates. They are distinct. They are their own beings in a way that we in the Shay subpack aren't.

We'd just love to hear more about median plurals and their experiences.

- Shay Subpack 🐾🪶🩵🖌

questions! 1, 4 and 21 :}

This post is gonna be long, so if you want to read it, press the "keep reading" thing!

1. Kintypes?

Ok, gonna answer for all of us who are known, lol. We are working on making/creating some packmates that aren't included in this post.

For me, it's wolf, dog, cat, crow, and ockins (Zuki, Cyan, and Akay. Zuki is MHA/BNHA, Cyan is RWBY, and Akay is DDLC). And then also "mixtures" of the previous ("actual") animal kins (such as wolfdog, cat + crow, etc). I might actually have more kins than this, but these are the known ones.

We have Shirley, who shifts between multiple (if not all) medium and big dog breeds [and some other canines, like wolves and foxes]. There is also Lynix, who shifts between multiple kinds of felines (domestic cat breeds, lions, etc). Declan is a cat. Den is a dragon.

Mystery and Lakey are hard to actually pinpoint what they actually are, lol. But they aren't human.

We have (oc) fictives as well. We don't know whether to really count them for their "fictiveness," but they do fit under the alterhuman and nonhuman communities, and they use those terms, so we will talk about them a bit. Vesper is a fallen angel from the Helluvaverse (if you [general you] don't like that we have a Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss fictive than just block us pls). Okami is a werecreature from MHA/BNHA [my cousin!!!]. Oynx is a wolfdog animatronic from FNAF. Phalen is a werecreature from the Harry Potter universe [not sure what timeline they are from, lol]. Moonfire is a tiefling dragon mix from DND [we have never actually played DND in this life sadly].

We also have a "subsystem" (we call it a subpack, lol. As we use pack instead of system) that is fictive(s) from Encanto [we are bodily white, so if this upsets anyone, just block us please]. We aren't gonna go into any real detail about this subpack, but we will say that none of them are (actually) human, lol.

4. Favorite kintype?

This is hard, lol. For the longest time, I was mainly talking about Zuki, but I don't think I would call Zuki my "favorite." I miss my life as Zuki, but I also miss my life as Cyan and Akay. I miss being more animal-like than this stupid human body [this body is stupid cause it doesn't fit any of us, not because 'humans are bad' btw. We don't hate humans. We may have fear and shit of (unknown to us) humans, but we don't hate humans]. Anyways, I would probably just say a mixture of all of my ("actual") animal kins, so a wolfdog cat crow creature, lol.

Don't think we/I am gonna answer for the others, cause this is longer than we thought it'd be.

21. How does your plurality affect your alterhumanity?

Hey, it's our question we added for us!!! Also, did we use "affect" right?

Anyways, our plurality affects our alterhumanity in many ways, lol. We have talked a bit about multiple of our/my packmates in this post already. None of us in the "Wildlife Pack" are human. We are all alterhumans and nonhumans.

Our plurality is also very much intertwined with our alterhumanity. It is essentially part of our alterhumanity. While some plural beings may not consider themselves alterhumans, plurality is/can be a part of the alterhuman umbrella. And that is definitely the case for us.

We don't know exactly what our origin is for our plurality but we are pretty sure (around 99.99% sure) that we do not have a CDD [CDD means complex dissociative disorder, which are things like DID, OSDD, etc]. We also think trauma at least impacted our plurality even if it didn't cause it, so we mostly call ourselves quoitraumagenic, but we might not 100% fit under "traumagenic." Anyways, we are 100% pro endo and endo safe!! If anyone doesn't like that, block us.

- Shay 🐾

Anyways, we/I have ranted for a lot of this post, lol. So this is gonna be the end of it for now.

Also, if there are any mistakes with spelling, grammar, etc. Only correct us if you are meaning it in a constructive way, please. As we are bad with English (despite it being our main/only language in this life/body, lol). [We are disabled in multiple ways, and it affects us in multiple ways.]

[TW: Death and shit that comes with that, idk maybe more? If you find any more things that should be in this trigger warning pls tell me.]

Also, shit is happening in my life rn. I recently [on September 11th] lost my cousin, she died and we aren't sure how exactly yet. So, yeah. Death is fucking weird and I don't think I process it normally (AuDHD). So I may end up not posting for a while or might end up posting like every day.

Just sharing so ya'll know what's going on if I disappear for a while [even though I would likely do that even without this shit happening].

We aren't sure when the funeral thing is happening yet, I slightly hope it's soon so I can see my family, I don't live by that side of the family, sadly. Probably gonna end up missing like a day of college, but whatever, my family [my pack] is more important to me.

My cousin left behind a son. He is a kid. He's younger than I was when my mom in this life died. [I was like 16 when that happened, and I won't be sharing how old my 2nd cousin is]. So I really wanna see that side of my family, so I can try and be there for him. He's gonna need people there for him, and if I could without getting in trouble, I would drop out of college rn to be around him while he is going through this. (Protective wolf/dog instincts?)

There's just a lot of shit going on rn with my life, I wish it would stop for a bit.

- Zuki Shay Lupo (They/xe/ze) :((

[We is referring to my family, btw]

Sorry if we weren't clear. We are autistic and adhd so that affects literally everything, lol.

Anyways, we meant any "human" looking creature (so even those who are fully human). Not just alterhumans & nonhumans.

Theriform human actually works, lol. (Strikout cause original poster/creator of the term says it's not supposed to be used about humans)

(The next paragraph has religion, specifically christianity, talked about)

We know that humans are animals and aren't better than any creature, but every once in a while because of how we were raised in this life, we think of humans as "different" than most of beings. (We were raised Christian in this life, but we aren't Christian. A lot of Christians have the idea that humans aren't like other animals [this is based on our experiences with Christians, so don't come for us with the whole "not all Christians" thing]). Somehow, this kinda became a little bit of a vent about being raised Christian and shit, lol.

(We are gonna edit our original post, not getting rid of our dumbness but by using the strikeout thing)

- Shay 🐾

Theriform [Official Coining Post]

Theriform Adjective (can applied as a noun in certain phrasing, see examples)

From θηρίον (thēríon) [diminutive of θήρ thḗr, “wild beast”] and μορφή (morphe) ["shape"/"figure"/"look"].

Definition:

A theriform animal is one which was born into a body that is typical/expected of it's species and observable as such by everyone, with species-typical levels of sapience/intelligence and whose behaviour is unaltered by being born into a human body/raised in a form perceived as human.

It is not the 'opposite' of therian despite similar etymology but is instead to be viewed as a complimentary term to therian, nonhuman, alterhuman, otherkin etc as it exists to specify certain details of a species whilst not invalidating the identities of those who are not theriform. It is made to replace potentially invalidating phrases like 'bio(logical) animal' or 'real animal'.

It is not an identity label and therefore has no flag or symbol and does not need one. Do not create these things please, or use the term to describe yourself on a personal level.

Alternative versions for non-animals could include: floraform, nat(ur)form, techform, fictoform, feyform, voidform, starform, divineform etc

Examples:

"Lol it's so funny being a cat and having a theriform cat as a pet we're both just kitties vibing but with different body shapes."

"Just because they're the same species are you does not mean you are able to take care of wild theriforms."

"The fact that there aren't that many theriforms of my species is so saddening."

"I wanna do quads alongside a pack of theriform wolves so bad!"

"I am transspecies, here is what I do/what I want to do to look more theriform."

"I wonder if theriforms get species dysphoria?"

We aren't really good at drawing but we are thinking of starting to do commissions soon. Are there any good tips for both art and commissions?

Like what's the best way to get the money from commissions (PayPal, gofundme, etc)? [And other tips for commissions].

Also just art/drawing tips for both traditional and digital.

[We don't have a job, are working on getting disability income, and the body's dad only gets disability and retirement so we don't have very much money.]

Edit: Also, what would you like to see us try to do commissions of? (Examples: animals, anthro animals, humans/human-like beings, etc).

- Shay 🐾

We'd like to try and do it today (let's say like 11:00/23:00, it's 6:20/18:20 rn) but technically it just needs to be done by Friday morning.

It's not too messy, mostly just some trash and making our desk a bit more clean and just that kind of shit. (It's the room we stay in, it's not technically our bedroom but we are in it more often than not and we sleep in it, lol).

- Shay 🐾

We need to clean a room, do any beings have any tips? (We need tips that keep in mind that our issues are mainly from AuDHD and chronic pain rn).

- Shay 🐾

Ok, first of all, our post was not an attack or hate to you. We even got where you were coming from.

Second of all, fuck that whole end paragraph.

We don't like using those terms just the same that we don't like using system to refer to us. They just don't feel right for us. We don't look down on or anything people who use any term that we don't.

We know that therians and otherkins aren't inherently human (although they can be, let's not forget the humans under the alterhuman umbrella). We would NEVER call someone human unless they say they are human.

Also, for the bisexual thing, there are multiple different multigender sexualities for a reason (pansexual, bisexual, polysexual, omnisexual, etc). Cause some don't prefer one of the other terms. There is nothing wrong with a preference for a term.

We like nonhuman and alterhuman better cause they are the ones that we would prefer to be called. There is nothing wrong with our preference, and if you think there is, then just block us.

- Shay 🐾

putting this on main actually;

it annoys me to death when folks say stuff like “i’m not a therian, im a [xyz animal]”

because hey that’s what a therian is!

to say you don’t identify as a therian because you just ARE that animal is to say that therians AREN’T really the animal they claim to be. which is so wrong. to say you don’t like the term therian because it’s ‘too human’ is so insensitive.

therians are not necessarily human! someone calling themself a therian in no way makes them human! equating therians with humans is weird!

stop treating us like we are human, stop trying to separate ‘really being an animal’ from being a therian. they are the same thing. you’re not superior or different to us because you “really are that animal”. we all are.