Any Time I See Someone Say "Marvel Knew What They Were Doing When They Cast Tom Hiddleston" I Feel A

Any time I see someone say "Marvel knew what they were doing when they cast Tom Hiddleston" I feel a bit like...they didn't though? I think you're projecting some 4D chess grandmaster stuff onto Marvel Studios that doesn't really exist.

Tom was cast via Kenneth Branagh and yes it was PHENOMENAL casting but let's not pretend like Marvel Studios didn't spend the next near-decade and a half deleting Loki's scenes, killing him then instantly reviving him, deleting yet more of his scenes, killing him again, retconning killing him, sticking him off-screen for almost half a decade, removing yet another scene and not even compensating his fans with a DVD extra, killing him again, then suddenly remembering he's popular (again) and coming up with something to use a now-for-real-dead character as the lead but it wasn't exactly the same character (just another version of him) and now they're apparently done with him again when it's pretty obvious he'll be wheeled out of that tree at some point.

I love Loki. I love Tom's portrayal of Loki but the only people who have consistently genuinely seemed to care about the character are the fans. Because we've been given nothing but crumbs by Marvel and yet produce all this beautiful fan art, fan fic and meta. Marvel have just kinda stumbled around Loki like some perpetually confused pigeon in a hall of mirrors that keeps crashing into its own reflection shrugging "huh...what IS this? Ooh shiny!"

Knew what they were doing? More like lucked out with a very talented and charismatic actor and a dedicated fanbase that formed 2011-12 and is somehow, despite everything still here.

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“now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison!”

dude what?


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1 year ago

it is appalling to me how impossible it is to talk to my parents about the palestinian-israeli war. my dad is catholic irishman, and my mom is ashkenazi jewish from poland. i am an only child. we are agnostic. both sides of my family have experienced genocide.

one of my relatives in ireland once had a hatchet thrown at him for being catholic, my grandad was once fired after less than three hours on a job because they found out he is catholic. my great-grandma on my mom's side is the only known survivor of the holocaust in my family.

yet, as soon as the palestinian-israeli war started, such historical context was tossed aside in order to put "democracy" up on a pillar.

i am angry, i am sad, and i just wish that there were people out there that i could talk with who would understand me and my views.


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1 year ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/shiftingrealities/comments/n2jjdb/how_to_reprogram_your_subconscious_for_reality/

What’s included:

Reprogramming the subconscious:

The subconsciousness is the part of your mind that works below your consciousness. It works behind the scenes, absorbing or rejecting information based on an existing perception you have of the world around you.

The subconsciousness was programmed this way from when you were an infant to the age of 7, which was when your brain was in a theta state (hypnosis state) learning by observing everything your parents did. After the age of 7, the way you learn changes to repetition and habituation, doing something repeatedly until you're good at it.

So you've been trying to shift, but whatever you do something or the other comes up or you keep sabotaging yourself at every point? Doubts, negative thoughts, demotivation... More likely you’ve got some old programmed messages that conflict with the new conditions you want to create.

See, shifting isn't something taught to you and it contradicts a lot with what we knew to be true, but you can teach your subconsciousness that shifting is something that you can do as easily as washing the dishes or riding a bike.

You can do this by reprogramming your subconsciousness.

4 Day Approach to Reprogram Your Subconsciousness:

Mornings:

1: Wake up, and do the exercises to relax yourself and rid yourself of negative thoughts to set the tone for the day. (Check the end of this document.)

2: As you go on throughout the day, say that everything you do is actually helping you shift. For example, you're going to brush your teeth? Think to yourself, brushing my teeth is going to bring me a step closer to shifting. You're going to be productive and study for your exams? Think to yourself, doing this is actually bringing me closer to shifting.

3: Create a google doc. In the first page, write down a list of your beliefs. In the second page, write down a list of what you don't believe in. Place shifting in your list of beliefs. Read the list of beliefs out loud. Use this technique to get rid of any limiting beliefs you have about reality shifting.

4: Since the subconscious mindset can be rewritten by repetition you should write over and over again the intention as if it was already a reality, ex. "I am capable of shifting on command", this should be done on a daily basis until repetition becomes a habit.

5: Personality creates personal reality, meaning that if we can adapt ourselves to a desired outcome before it arrives our subconscious thinks of it as something that is currently happening, making it actually happen.

Nights:

1: Meditate while affirming that you believe in shifting and that shifting is real.

2: Fall asleep while listening to hypnosis videos on reprogramming the mind. (optional)

3: Layer affirmations with theta waves. (optional)

Relaxation Technique:

1: Sit in a comfortable position where you have leg room.

2: Lift up your right leg and stretch it, holding the muscles tight. Keep it that way for about 20 seconds, then relax.

3: Do the same thing next for your right leg, then your left hand and right hand. (Basically you lift up your arm, keep your hand in a tight fist, hold it for 20 seconds then release and relax)

4: Tighten your abdominal muscles for 20 seconds, relax.

5: Tighten your chest muscles, relax.

6: Same thing, but with back and neck muscles.

7: Lastly, scrunch up your face tightly but not to the point where it hurts. Then relax.

8: Do some deep breathing for a minute or two.

9: Now, tighten all the muscles of your body, legs, hands, shoulders, face, abdomen, chest. Keep it tight for a few seconds. Then close your eyes, and relax them.

10: This is the time to let go of all the tension and pressure. All the muscles are going in a deep state of relaxation. Clear your mind of all thoughts. Let your mind be completely free in a deep calm state of relaxation.

Negative Thought Removal:

1: Identify thoughts of repetitive negative nature. Bring those thoughts back to your mind. For example: "I will not be able to shift", "I'm a horrible person", "I'm good for nothing".

2: When the thought comes, clap your hands and say: "stop". And immediately go back to the state of relaxation you were in before in the relaxation exercise.

3: You'll notice the more you repeat this exercise, let the negative thoughts in, clap and then go to a state of relaxation, the more time it takes for the negative thoughts to appear again. Soon enough they won't appear at all.


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1 year ago

this is cool and all, but i want to add my perspective on knowing why you SHOULDN'T stck stones like that, ending up in me yelling at the screen "NO PEDRO, DON'T STACK THE ROCKS YOU'LL RUIN THE ECOSYSTEM, THE MICROORGANISMS, PEDRO, THINK ABOUT THE MICROORGANISMSSS"

We Thought It Was Important To Show That Joel Missed Her. That He’s Mourning Her. In His Very Simple
We Thought It Was Important To Show That Joel Missed Her. That He’s Mourning Her. In His Very Simple
We Thought It Was Important To Show That Joel Missed Her. That He’s Mourning Her. In His Very Simple
We Thought It Was Important To Show That Joel Missed Her. That He’s Mourning Her. In His Very Simple

We thought it was important to show that Joel missed her. That he’s mourning her. In his very simple way, just making a small cairn of rocks to say quietly ”I’m sorry, I blew it. I lost you”. It was important for us to show that he cared. (Craig Mazin)

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6 months ago

I think that mcu making up flaws that Loki allegedly has and "fixing" them but never even briefly exploring the flaws he actually has has a lot to do with the fact that his flaws aren't the ones that movies or books usually deal with.

Because mcu Loki does have some genuine flaws: guys, he tried to destroy Jotunheim and walked over his own beliefs in order to be liked and deserving to be loved by his family. That's the hugest people-pleasing issues you can come up with.

He's so overly private that he never even mentioned Thanos. Not once. Yes, there were different reasons, but this was one of them.

His trust issues? His desire to portray himself as worse than he is?

Him ruining Thor's coronation out of mix of jealousy AND altruism????

All of that are real flaws, but the writers of popular media usually don't deal with such kind of flaws - they deal with arrogant, selfish, power-hungry characters, so yeah, of course later mcu claims that Loki didn't know how to care about others. Of course the show states he was power-hungry.

Not only that, but the flaws mcu Loki has aren't always seen as flaws by many people: "oh, so he's a people-pleaser, it's like being too much of a hard worker", etc.

Mcu Loki is a complex character who is flawed in such interesting ways, but of course it's easier to give him classic bad-to-good guy story.


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11 months ago

In Defense of Loki (Masterpost)

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April 20th, 2020

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Since Tumblr mobile is a little bitch and won’t let people navigate to custom pages, I’ve decided to convert my Ragnarok Sucks compendium to a masterpost for mobile access. So here we go.

A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…

Wait, no. Wrong universe. Sorry.

Once upon a time, I—like so many other filmgoers—enjoyed Thor: Ragnarok. If you dig deeply enough into this here Tumblr, you may even come upon instances of me defending it or celebrating certain aspects of it. So I absolutely understand that some people prefer to view it uncritically or to take what good they can find in it and leave the rest. It was reading the vast number of meta posts others within the anti-Ragnarok community here have penned that really opened my eyes to just how offensively flawed this film is. In the past few years, I have gone from uncritically loving Ragnarok to despising the movie with every fiber of my being.

Travel anywhere within the Marvel fandom on social media—be it Tumblr, Twitter or elsewhere—and you will inevitably find incredulous people asking, “Why do Loki fans hate Ragnarok so much??” With respect to the people posing such questions, our reasons are numerous and well-documented—perhaps nowhere moreso than in this masterpost. If answers are what you truly seek, you will find them below.

To be rather blunt about it, Thor: Ragnarok was an objectively insulting and out-of-character deviation from established canon. It dropped character arcs left and right; it misrepresented itself as anti-imperialist when its messaging was mixed at best; its brand of humour was immature, bullying and albeist; and it sought to actively punish and demean one character over any other: Loki. I know how conspiratorial and ridiculous that sounds, believe me. But if you stick around until the end, you will see how and why a certain portion of the fandom has arrived at that conclusion. I promise it is not coming from nowhere. Ragnarok’s Loki was a caricature, done in bad faith—and I can prove it.

Through this collection of meta-analyses, I will attempt to illustrate how and why Thor: Ragnarok was a slap in the face to Tom Hiddleston, Loki’s longtime fans, and basically every writer and director who worked so hard to create the three-dimensional, complex antihero we came to know and love over the past decade of the MCU. One part of demonstrating this betrayal by Marvel Studios will be to explicitly detail who Loki had shown himself to be from his introduction in Thor (2011) all the way through to The Dark World. We will then be directly contrasting this Loki with that of Waititi’s Thor: Ragnarok—so as to illustrate that these are not different facets of one individual character (a claim often echoed within pro-Ragnarok circles), but rather that Waititi’s “Loki” is often in direct conflict with the version that Tom Hiddleston and Kenneth Branagh built from the ground up. Additionally, we will be looking at how Thor: Ragnarok as we know it came to exist, as well as breaking down direct quotes from Tom Hiddleston, Taika Waititi, Chris Hemsworth and more—with a special focus on the precise nature of where Loki has come from and how his experiences have shaped who he has become.

One final note: I recognise that this page can be rather abrasive to read for those who love Ragnarok. While I’ve tried to tone that down somewhat in my more recent edits of its contents, there is a reason I made the initial choice to write it in the style I did. Critics of Ragnarok are frequently accused of either wanting everything to be deadly serious all the time or of simply not understanding Waititi’s particular brand of irreverent humour. I hope the irony of my creative decision here is not lost on anyone—because it was entirely intentional.

Now without further ado, let us begin.

The Odinsons: An Asgardian Soap Opera

How Not To Talk To Your Son About Being A Tiny Blue Spoil Of War

New Brother, Who Dis?

Thanos Is A Big Purple Turd

No Rest For The Wicked

BREAKING: Odin Is Still A Jerk

What Makes Someone A Villain?

Everything Wrong With Ragnarok

Tom Hiddleston, Professional Thespian™

Chris Hemsworth, Professional Wanker™

How Taika Waititi Knowingly Sabotaged A Beloved Character

Why the “Ragnarok Shows Another Side Of Loki” Argument Is Crap

Ragnarok Is Crap, Part Deux

A+ Meta & Stuff

On Thor & Loki’s Broken Relationship and Odin’s A+ Parenting

Loki: Villain or Victim?

How Hero™/Villain™ Coding Robs Your Critical Thinking Skills

With All Due Respectful Disrespect: Taika Waititi F%#(ing Sucks

Ragnarok Stan Bingo

So much love to everyone who has contributed to these links (intentionally or otherwise, haha). You’re doing the lord’s work.

6 months ago

Petition to bring back the boop function next year for the ides of March where instead of a paw on the screen it’s a little knife that Caesar gets stabbed with

1 year ago

neil gaiman? what are you doing in this tumblr post?!

glad that im not popular enough to have an evil shadow version of my blog that exists just to make contradictions on my posts

6 months ago

Thor. (Thor 1)

Thor is a brother. A prince. King. Lover. Fighter. Avenger. His identity is wrapped so tightly around these fragments that if he lets go, he’ll fall to pieces. But he’s fragmented because he shattered. And he shattered because of what happened in Thor: God of Thunder. 

Thor’s arc in the first movie, I believe, centers around the idea of consequences. It’s not falling in love with Jane, it’s not Asgard, not someone slapping him over the head. It’s the fact that his choices suddenly have weight and meaning. 

Thor gets banished for slaughtering Jotun unprovoked. 

Thor’s relationship with Jane, Darcy, and Erik is poor because he’s treating them like crap. 

Thor fails to capture his hammer because he’s not worthy. (To whatever standard Odin has set.) 

Thor, as he’s told, is the catalyst of his father’s death. 

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There’s this moment in this scene when you can watch his face go from earnest to oh. That was me. I did that. Me. Not you. ME.

Thor is the prince of Asgard, which is basically an empire of nine worlds. He is used to having diplomatic immunity. He could do no wrong. With that ripped out away from him, Thor doesn’t talk. He shuts down, and settles inside himself, thinking. 

Not reacting. Thinking. 

Thor isn’t an idiot. He’s impulsive, there’s a difference. His first reaction is violence, because he was raised in a society where slapping your enemies over the head brutally was just something that was done. As much as I love Frigga, when Thor was banished, in the deleted scene, she didn’t go to Odin so tell him oh my gosh, our son killed all these Jotuns, why didn’t we teach him better? She complains that Odin’s punishment was too harsh. 

Thor has never been told to stretch this much, and had it stick before. And Loki does it. He does it in a way that’s a little cruel, and cold, but he tells Thor to stop being such an idiot. 

And Thor, miracle of miracles, actually listens. 

This is not a story of Thor becoming worthy. This is the story of Thor realizing where his priorities need to be. It’s the story of him growing up. 

And this is where we get to my final point. I think that almost none of this–none of it–would have sunk deeply into Thor’s psyche if Loki didn’t fall of the Bifrost when they fought. 

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Look at them. Loki is dangling. Thor is being held onto by his foot. 

And Thor doesn’t care. 

Because the only thing he’s focused on is his little brother. Hanging there. Dying. His best friend that just tried to kill all the Jotuns. His confidante that just disowned him. His biggest supporter that fought him. And Thor doesn’t understand. He doesn’t understand. He doesn’t know what Loki uncovered at that point.

This is just his brother who is going to die if he doesn’t do anything. 

And then Loki addresses his last words to their father. Not him. Their father. And Odin rejects him. It always struck me that Thor sees Loki’s face close off and then immediately knows what Loki is going to do. He’s not surprised, he’s not shocked. He knows. Loki lets go, and Thor can’t catch him.

Thor can fly. Odin didn’t let him go until Loki was beyond any chance of recovery, and Thor blamed himself. He’s solemn after Loki’s death. He rejects his parents’ and friends’ comfort. He goes to Heimdall to start looking out for Jane, because he is not going to let someone else he cares about slip beyond his reach. 

Thor’s consequence for his actions in Thor 1 was his brother. And that nearly killed him. Thor 1 was never, never about becoming worthy. At least, not for Thor.

“How is he?”

“He mourns for his brother.” 

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