Could You Tell Me Your Thoughts On Nine As A Character? I Rarely Meet Fans Of His. If You Would Indulge

I kinda get what point you're trying to make here, but this is more about Kai character arc that the Hassaikai arc itself.

For Kai as a character I do agree on him not being as fleshed out as he could be (but disagree on the love part, I love him anyway so...).

The Overhaul arc as a storyline feels pretty consistent overall outside of thay specific part.

Besides you have to put this in the context of how it was published in the manga. Because by that point the Overhaul arc was at the time the longest arc of the series and go on for over a year which was a huge difference compared to everything else the manga had previously.

Besides is a known fact that Horikoshi wasn't emotionally okay during that time, and writing the arc with a very dark tone was not doing very good to his mental health as he said on interviews.

With that in mind it's totally possible that Horikoshi just wanted to be done with an arc that was going on forever and pass to something lighter in tone (main reason of why the school festival is almost cartoonish in comparison). That was at the cost of not expand on Chisaki as a character sadly.

As for the rest of your questions, it sounds like you don't finished the stoey of the manga so it might be spoiler so I couldn't talk about them without spoil some things.

ok so tell me if I'm wrong or overthinking this, but....

Does anyone else think Overhaul's ark was rushed and kinda half-finished? Why does every character have a fully explained back story that makes you love them no matter what, but we still don't know anything about Overhaul? Where did he come from? who are his parents? why does Pops' daughter not want anything to do with him? Is it just me? I feel like Pops neglected Kai as a kid. He's obviously mentally ill, and he had no care for that. where did he get his quirk theory from? When he said it, it sounded drilled into his head like he had heard it somewhere else. how is he connected to any of the AFO ark? he seems to be the adult version of Eri if she was never saved right? why did Pops find him wandering the streets? WHY?

Did I ever saw the MHA movies? No. Never bc I know it would be a BK fest (as if canon isn't one too)

But talking about Nine...

It makes me wonder how Nine would approach Izu ?

Bc shig in canon is this and ....I hate it for the simple fact he decided to be amicable to BK.

Hi @mikeellee 👋

I know you haven't watched the movies but nine and izuku have interacted and fought each other during the movie, while nor deep or meaningful conversations took place the movie does establish them to be enemies as izuku is against nine stealing kasumo's quirk.

Nine is very hostile towards everyone who isn't his team so unlike shigaraki there is no bias where he is amicable to one character and hostile towards another.

Due to this iam going to assume your question is: what if nine was in shigaraki tomura's position?

Nine in this scenario starts out with his team that is founded after he helps them and he already has the ideology that the strongest in society should rule while the weak should stay in their place.

By having nine attack the usj with just his small highly skilled team trying to take down the symbol of peace it adds a lot more meaning and symbolism as

1) it makes sense for society to underestimate their attack

2) it would intoeduce us to the main villain group and their real capabilites early on

3) we would get more time to flesh out and develop the found family bond of nine's team

It's during the usj arc that we get both nine's ideology introduced and that we see that same ideology being indirectly challenged by

1) who nine is trying to take down (all might)

2) Izuku midoriya himself

This is because nine is trying to destroy the own natural order he pleads and praises by taking down the strongest person in society. Nine is trying to destroy the already establishes hierarchy where all might is clearly more powerful therefore, making him a hypocrite. However, he could plead his case and use the argument that all might and his reign of peace is inevitably coming to an end so nine will take this opportunity fight and prove himself to be the strongest and bring about change to the system.

Izuku midoriya as well as many other characters like eri or nejire are interesting characters that end up contradicting the system and ideology that nine has in place. I mention izuku midoriya specifically because he is the only charactwr our of the others that I listed that is involved in the usj arc.

In the usj arc nine will figure out that izuku holds a powerful quirk which would cause him to develop mixed emotions. On one hand nine would be intimidated by izuku as he has the ability to take over as the strongest and choose to uphold the status quo which nine wants to annihilate and change into what he label's the natural order of things. However, on the other hand nine would also relate to izuku as both of their quirks have horrible consequences in their body and would feel a sense of hatred as he sees another person discarded by society because his quirk is too strong.

Due to these feelings nine chooses to investigate the case of izuku midoriya further and choose to recruit him onto the team as a means of disabling the threat and also gaining a power tank on his side.

This feeling and motivation is reinforced by the sports festival arc where nine is introduced to both izuku and todoroki. However, another person also enters nine's field of vision: katsuki bakugo. Nine feels like he could manipulated bakugo to fit a narrative and mold that he wants him to fit and exploit him to show society that the strongest are being oppressed by the weak. This is a mistake that nine makes and he learns that this is a grave mistake through the consequences he receives (the kamino arc) and the new information he gathers during the kamino arc.

Through research and the kamino arc (where izuku and bakugo are kidnapped) nine finds out that izuku was quirkless. This would be an interesting development as izuku was and may still be someone who nine thinks should be at the bottom of the cycle but also izuku is too similar to nine. This discovery would send nine spiralling what does this mean for him? His ideals? His plan? People will suffer, people have suffered and people are suffering. Nine's plan wouldn't change a thing but would just make one group of people suffer less than another group of people.

Nine would have to go back to the drawing board and his interactions with izuku become more frequent trying to understand izuku and izuku trying to understand him. They fight, they argue, they talk and all of that to reach a middle point. What should be done with society? It's flawed, they have managed to acknowledge that but upholding the status quo would do no improvement and changing it to have it be a cruel cycle of the strong abusing their power would also be a horrible thing.

With all of this occurring one thing that brings nine and izuku closer to one another is the overhaul arc, specifically one character Eri.

Eri infulences them to meet a middle ground one where society isn't determined by power of quirks but a society where everyone has potential and is taken care of. No people aren't born equal but a sample of equity can be achieved if they try hard enough.

Izuku meets more people who got exploited by their quirks and so does nine. Nejire is a good example of a character being bullied because of her quirk and she is a direct foil to izuku midoriya which makes her more interesting

Ew... I hate DabiHawks more than you can possibly think, and the fact is so popular makes me lose any faith on this fandom.

Hawks isn't a saint but he sures deserves far better than that (he deserves Chisaki okay?)

But isn't like I'm totally against of a turbulent romance for Dabi, a toxic one that is destined to end in tragedy. That's why I ship him with Geten (incest a la Star Wars?) because I was kinda sold for their aesthetic and hate/love relationship that mirrors Enji and Rei marriage in many ways.

And yeah my Dabi is ruthless, cynical, cruel, savage and with no regrets (no tears for missed Soba plates in my book). I enjoy Dabi at his best when he's a pure evil bastard who knows no limits, or just some, but this doesn't apply to Shoto especially.

Also on a tragic spin for his story, maybe even when Dabi really start feeling something good for someone like Geten in this case, his obssesion with revenge and make others suffer ends up destroying anny chance he got to obtain a bit of happines. To put in simple Geten wouldn't end very well staying close to Dabi and it's to late for both.

I'm not even the biggest fan of Dabi in terms of looks, but always found very weird how the anime constantly makes him look way more defined and with bigger muscles than he has in the manga.

Isn't a bit contradictory for his character to look super ripped? Horikoshi clearly drawn Dabi in that specific way because the story makes emphasis on his body being more frail due having a weak constitution, also contrasting him to the rest of mens in the family who got the big and strong constitution of Enji, Natsuo especially. The anime just lose all the meaning behind that.

And this is more of a personal preference but I find Dabi's body in the manga to look much more attractive and less generic than in the anime. Skinny guys can look attractive as well.

Hi @nyc3

Thanks for the ask bc it's so fitting as I was thinking about how the fandom sees dabi and mr. Possum.

Let me start with this. Have you seen how in the Tumblr the tags of dabi x reader and shig x reader there a HUGE contrast in quality? Shig is depicted as a creepy and weirdo incel while Dabi IS "I'LL STEAL YOUR WIFE😏"

now on a controversial take. I do like the idea of dabi losing his scars. Why? Would increase his quality of life...I find odd how everyone in LoV accepts Dr. Evil's word and never try to take a second opinion. Also, without the scars Dabi would look way more like Endy making his claim be more powerful.

(not a fan of erasing Shig's scars nor the "crusty" jokes. Shig is handsome with his scars)

Now onto your ask: I think Bones just like to make characters hot in a conventional way, JJK men got to be hotter than the manga. But I do notice how bones lacks in translate the manga to anime. Some of the scenes of the manga were done so dirty.

Dabi became hotter aka buffer bc of this. Btw, many dabi x reader like to make the reader have a healing quirk (it should be a trope by now) just so it can heal dabi...which no one account that dabi IS self destructive, a healing quirk is nice but he would do again...unless he changes his mindset (I'm trying to explore this in my fic called besties)

Ask yourself: did shig NEEDED to be buffaraki? Was afo the quirk really need you to be buff?

(was necessary for Izu to gain muscles? Maybe, maybe not)

So to answer: Dabi is attractive in any shape. His writing trumps over shig any day even if shig IS more attractive than Dabi.

I guess you mean this one?

It look similar, but it could also be just another quirk very similar looking. After all AFO has a lot of quirks which look samey.

Like it could be just air cannon being used differently or something like that, as Shigaraki is kind of propeling himself rather than float.

Besides is fun to imagine AFO being so petty that he would deny Shigaraki having his original quirk in any capacity just for the lols.

Does the UA data book acknowledge that "flying circles" was a variant of "Float"?

Here's a translation. So it's a quirk that works sort of like the way a double jump in a video game would work and allows you to float. Its pretty much a variant of Nana's just had rings when used to propel itself.

There's another panel i can't find where Tomura uses it too and you can see the rings around his feet.

But yeah

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Oh yes don't get me wrong, I don't think in canon any part about Yoichi and AFO relationship has any positive side, is totally horrible and toxic but still love the dynamic as a villain motivation. And is funny how the feelings are not one sided as many of AFO detractors think, because Yoichi until his 2nd death as vestige acts like he always wanted AFO to came back to him and be saved somehow.

On a related note, KudoIchi shippers are so freaking annoying...

Nine is a gentleman... that's canon. He has standards unlike crusty kid.

Eh... I wouldn't say any character in DS is trying to be like Bakugou. There's many abrasive characters in that series, but they're far from being similar to Bakugou in any other trait or story role.

Idk why anime fans are so reductive to compare characters based only on archetypes.

Is like the people who compare Shoto and Giyuu Tomioka from DS just because they're the "emo guy" of the series, when outside of a very basic part of their personalities both characters are nothing alike.

Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...

Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.

Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?

Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.

So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.

In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.

It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.

I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.

But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.

Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.

Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.

Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.

I like to think of Cider being something like that... a sheep on a wolf costume.

Cause if you pay attention to how he acts during his two appearances, is interesting that despite being a villain Cider never harms civilians and he only wants to steal money but unlike other criminals he never tried to kill or harm unless they attack him first. He seems like a decent guy deep inside.

I actually write some snipets of Cider x Deku for another blog.

Super rare pair I know, but hear me out, I love the idea of Midoriya having being friends and later having a romantic relationship with a small criminal that isn't a total lose cause. Cider fits that description and they would look very good together.

One of the small drabbles I made was about Cider protecting Midoriya from Bakugou when they were in middle school. Cider beated the shit out of Bakugou and recovered Izuku's notebook to give it back to him, and since then he waits Izu after he finish the school day just to watch for him he goes home (Cider is in love but a bit clueless about his own feelings).

Also the idea of Midoriya having a fire quirk and got with a water user like Cider makes the ship even better. I'm weak for elemental pairs.

You can't imagine how much I love the Cider House leader guy...

A minor villain has no right to look so cool, badass and handsome like he does.

Also he probably got the best water quirk of the series.

Also he got so much sassy energy on top of having such insane drip.

Being one of his like 3 fans isn't easy, but still love him.

Introducing the Shigaraki family

We have:

One angry dad

One angry mom

And their angry son

Why are they so mad?

YoDeku shippers, we won.

I don't even play the game, but they need to keep feeding us with this kind of content.

Aren't they the coolest couple ever?

Midoriya deserves to be happy with his handsome boyfriend in the steampunk world.

They totally run a workshop together btw.

This was also the hair of a homeless man:

I saw this meme and it reminded me of them when I saw each photo😭

I hope it was just the wind that made afo’s hair like that…