I hope I started a chain reaction to get more people interesting into Cider House.
One at time.
It's funny as hell how Horikoshi declared a lot of times how he put so much effort on Shigaraki design to make him unique and super symbolic, just for ended up going with a generic shirtless look for most the rest of the series and big muscles rather than his original boney look.
I guess he realized people didn't take seriously as villain a dude with a lot of hands and clown shoes.
Note: maybe that's why also almost every other time post awakening Shigaraki is barefoot?
I think he spend more time barefoot at this point than with the clown shoes on.
Can't stop thinking about a CiderDeku focused AU in which our favorite seltzer boy and Midoriya work as part time vigilantes together.
And since Izuku has a fire bending quirk in this AU, the contrast of his quirk and Cider's (who is named Mizunami Himura in this story) make people start calling them "Steam-Bow couple" as their unofficial vigilantes name.
Still thinking about the details of how they started their crusade together as vigilantes, but I like that idea I mention in other post about Mizunami saving Izuku from Bakugou when both of them still were in Aldera and Midoriya was around 13. Mizunami still was the leader of the Cider House gang (and maybe two years older than Midoriya) but later he left the group because he felt his members started to be way too problematic and getting in worse situations with civilians and heroes, something he didn't like because while Mizunami commited crimes like robbery he never tried to harm innocent people during his operations.
Besides he started feeling for Izuku after protect him from Bakugou, and since Izu wanted to stay with him after the incident they both start to get along and quickly became good friends, Mizu also helping Izu no being so shy and insecure about himself due the years of bullying.
He start helping Izuku to train his quirk and body during his free time, which served a lot for Midoriya to get in good shape and develop a fight style for the years to come as he still intented to apply to at least a low-middle tier hero school (and this will became important later).
I like to think the incident with the Sludge monster from chapter 1 was what caused a twist on their relationship, as unlike what happens in canon here when both of them are attacked by the Slime that escaped from A.M, Izuku and Mizunami give the monster a big surprise because they were able to fight back.
Slime turned to be quite vulnerable to water and fire combined, which allowed Izu and Mizu to restrain him in a bottle of soda and left him for the heroes finish the job later, as they run totally excited by the experience.
After escape and being safe, Izuku suddenly jump to the arms of Mizunami and they started kissing out of the excitement of the moment. When they calm down both smiled and since that moment they became officially boyfriends, and decide they would have more moments like this in the future so they will start fight criminals together.
Also the incident also give Izuku the final confidence boost he always needed and when Bakugou provoked him after school trying to make fun of Mizunami who was there for walk along Izuku to his home, Midoriya decided he had enough when Katsuki insulted his boyfriend.
So what happened next is that Izuku deep breath and expelled a big green fire ball from his mouth, which resulted in Bakugou getting a lot of first degree burns and loosing his eyebrows (something for what he would be mocked a lot later).
Mizunami used his water quirk to extinguish the fire over Bakugo's clothes who is totally terrified, then Mizu and Izuku laugh at him take a picture with their funs for future reference and run away together.
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CinderIzu is great and Cinder as a character was ignored, slept on ...bc villain stans are predictable into hot villains like dabi and shig(yes, shig is hot even in his possum way) and ...damn this fandom waste a good opportunity for a ship.
For a moment, thought you were talking about my idea.
I do like the idea Izumi being considered so beautiful even with her scars (she is prettier bc of her scars bc this woman survived) so in a country where the woman's value depends on her beauty...Izumi carrying her scars and being hot is amazing. Cinder would be into!
Cinder would also be into kill bk!
Her entire story, as she describes what BK did, seems like SA. See? The difference of boy and girl here is how people perceive the violence.
But I'm into this ship.
I do like sgdk a lot.
I do like dabideku too
But CinderIzu??? I'm open and so far like the ideas.
No, only Nine dies in the movie because you know... crusty bitch killed him in a very cowardly move.
His team likely will never know what happened to him and that's both sad an frustrating to know because they loved Nine as a family.
I will not reveal what ship is valid for Nine yet.
Looking at the characters pages in the Volume Rising extras, I notice an interesting detail about Slice's background.
Now I'm aware this is a rough translation by google, but it's interesting that Horikoshi explicitly describes Slice as being used by "men".
Which could also connect with this panel from Nine's origin backstory, in which Slice is seen lying on the floor of a destroyed apartment looking totally defeated and helpless.
As far I know this is the only time a female character (and a villain for that mattter) in the series is written with an explicit background about being used and possible exploited by mens, implying a context of misoginia.
Which also makes me wish we had more context about Slice relationship with Nine and the rest of the crew.
How she pass from not trust anyone to be fully concerned about her team? (All being mens).
There's a lot of potential to developed their relationship there.
But an important note: I don't see Slice devotion to Nine and his ideals as romantic, not at all like much people like to interpret just because she's a woman. I feel that kinda goes against her characterization, considering Nine probably was the first man she ever trust but unlike others he wasn’t a lover or anything, but a savior and a true friend/family.
Horikoshi also says on Slice character page that Nine asked her about her quirk first and he values the name of it over actual names (which btw adds to Nine's own characterization considering he doesn't have a real name). I like to think it might be one of the reasons of why Slice trust so much on Nine's vision for the world, as he probably give a new meaning to her life other than being a pretty face and help her to value her own power.
So the wig idea still could work in this case, she would only need it to be white for match Gentle.And the classy Himura habit on being subtle as a baseball bat in to the head lol.I guess Mizunami got something of that not so subtle nature, but since he's not a bad person such nature would be for say good things to Izu without filter. He totally wouldn't be afraid of saying "what a nice ass!" lol.
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Is fun how I like to make up reasons for my fav characters to be barefoot, as is something meaningful and not just an aesthetic choice (when Its possible at least).
For example I imagine Shindo loves to be barefoot when he trains because a passive effect of his vibration quirk is being able to feel the vibrations in the ground, like the earthbenders from Avatar. He can feel it anyway with shoes on, but being barefoot enhance the effect and makes him feel more connected to earth while feeling it's texture on his feet.
Nine also loves being barefoot because it is associated with a sense of terrenal freedom, which makes him happy and in peace especially during rains.
Mizunami also would just love put his feet on water, that's relaxing.
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A lair for the Cider House gang? I bet it would be something like an abandoned warehouse, but rather than the cliche spooky lair of most villains, Mizu and his gang would just fill the place with neon lights, confy fornitures, arcade machines, all kind of TVs, game consoles, and other stuff they steal. And of course a lot of artistic graffity.
They don't live there of course, but it's a great place for chill between missions and such.
And now I need to think of a lot of domestic SeltzerBunny fluff since you mentioned the morning kiss.
I feel I'm always talking about this ship and Cinder and I thank you for that. I do have a question: does the media follow the cinder's gang?
I ask this bc I do want to give Izumi notoriety. Ofc she will WORK to gain it( I love her, but it would be disingenuous to the story making Izumi win by mere existing) but like the media does talk about the fearsome Usage (it's her moniker. A rare win for this fandom is the bunny jokes for Izu) and the same could be add to Cinder. He is a big name in the thievery world.
Or
Cinder works in the shadow and no one knows who he is?
Just wondering here bc I can work either way. Izumi gaining respect in the underworld and even getting the attention of big fishes like Nine.
It is still funny imagine Cinder being oblivious to how popular he is in the social medias. Villain fuckers are real and...he has never met them thanks to his good luck.
Izumi is watching the edits for...science.
You're welcome! Is always nice have more persons in this small fandom for the CiderIzu ship.
Can we call it SeltzerBunny too? Every ship good needs a corny name as well.
I assume the Cider House gang has sort of a reputation, considering their methods to operate and how they can wait for months before a big hit and not get captured in the process.
In my own AU nobody knows Cider is a member of the Himura family btw, but that's also probably because the clan erased a lot of his public registers and invented some story of "our son is overseas" or something like that.
Of course they're a famous gang in the otherworld however.
Ironically Nine is the underdog here, even his origin chapter put emphasis on how he "survived under the radar" considering how crazy his quirk is. I have my own ideas to flesh out this plot point, more info later.
I love the idea of Mizunami being totally clueless about his reputation in certain social media. He would probably think that's a bit cringe, but if it's Izu... he obviously doesn't mind.
He probably can get away because the mask covers a good part of his face, and that's a popular topic among his followers who fantasy about how he looks unmasked.
Only Izu (any version) got the privilege of see that handsome face in person.
I think I'm in love with Giulio Gandini already
Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of his mask as Stendhal I do like the outfit.
And how it looks way more clean, profesional and stylized, which marks a contrast with his later more savage look as Stain. Even Chizome's hair was silky and better stylized as Stendhal to reinforce the idea.
Random take but: Stain had the coolest and most insane boots design on his debut.
Like we should normalize black leather boots with a lot of metal and with small chains for laces, that looks cool as hell.
Eh, I didn't say that. Is just not for this particular scenario.
AFO is perfect for crossover material in fact.
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Since you mention it... there's a pretty dope crossover of DS and MHA in Ao3 that is a massive one-shot that blends both stories (until certain point for MHA) in a pretty fascinating way.
And Muzan himself is the villanous main character.
The basic premise is that he survives the events of DS ending and he lives through the dawn of quirks and alters the MHA timeline. Of course during the dawn of quirks Muzan and AFO clash and they have a great rivalry.
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That's a fair take, I dislike a lot of things about Zenitsu myself. Yes he's annoying but surprisingly not so much for me, I find him funny most time.
There's other things that I hate about him, mainly his atrocious romance with Nezuko and other things post ending that isn't worth explain if you didn't watch the whole series.
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Yeah crusty boy will be there... just for die in a quick and pathetic way when a hashira shows up.
It will be the best option, trust me.
What do you think about another crossover AU for SeltzerBunny? This time with Demon Slayer.
It's kinda easy to adapt the respective canon quirks of our dear couple into Breathing Styles.
Cider/Mizunami obviously would be a water breathing user, and for this AU I like to think he would be tsuguko of Sabito who survived this time.
While Midoriya is a wind breathing user (cause you know air force and float and green aesthetic... whatever) who was saved by Masachika (Yeah he's also alive at least for now) from the lower moon who killed his mother.
That lower moon would be no other than BK, who is a promising demon in ascension who is capable of generate explosions like his quirk in MHA.
And this would make Midoriya quest for revenge his principal motivation.
Still thinking about the details for this AU and who should be the other characters adapted into it, as MHA having such a big cast compared to DS force me to pick only the necessary lol.
@nyc3 hello
So while I did saw the first season of DS and do think it's well paced and better than MHA in every way -not a big achievement to behold. I didnt saw the other seasons, I got spoilers here and there. My point is how some of the names here are unknown to me.
That being said...I do like more aus for this ship.
Cinder is still a thief in this au or he seeks revenge?
How they meet and how is their dynamic?
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That's okay, I just was thinking Nine gives more of these big brother vibes but it works either way.
Rokuro also deserves love 🥲
I'm going to leave here some old drawings of nine + afo because yes
( is this some kind of headcanon? I think so! and it's the delusional headcanon type😓)
If you were to turn 9 and his squad into main series villains, how would you do so?
Tough question actually, because there's a lot of different things you can do with a group of characters like them.
And I don't want to make the classic "role swap" in which everything in the timeline is almost the same minus which characters fill X spot.
For Nine specifically, I would start his story right after Kamino and the defeat of AFO.
An idea I would like to play is he and Shigaraki could actually act as rivals of sorts when AFO is out of the picture (but he would still have a part on the story).
As both groups will start from the very bottom without much resources, and Nine will have his empty copy of the AFO quirk to fill with new quirks different than the canon, perhaps only keeping the more iconic ones as Hydra just because is so cool.
Actually the quest for find the ideal quirks and one that solves the cell degeneration would be an important part of Nine developement, rather than just happen offscreen.
As for what new quirks he could steal, that's not something I don't have very clear yet (so I accept suggestions) but one of them would be Dabi's blueflames. Lol I just want see Nine with epic blue flames.
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Oh and an idea that always loved is that Nine needs another rival that isn't just Shigaraki, but someone else who is his direct opposite in terms of world view and ideology.
And that's no one else than Overhaul
Think about it, Nine and Kai are just the perfect foils for each other.
The concept of a quirk supremacist and an anti-quirk believer having a ideological (and literal) war for control the underworld and reform the world into their own view could be epic.
And for that to happen obviously we need to keep Kai as a recurring villain for most of the story. I would create a dynamic where a lot of villains groups will have internal battles while at the same time the heroes are another problem to deal.
But wait, you need soldiers for that to work.
And what best army for Nine than the one which literally believe in quirk supremacy?
Look I will die on the hill that MVA as a concept for an arc is literally made for Nine and his team.
The idea of Re-Destro wanting to contact a villain group that is getting more recognition and in the end they found common ground due beliefs fits way more with Nine than it does to Shigaraki.
I mean it's obvious, Nine is basically the living incarnation of all the ideals of the original Destro. If his descendant meet him he would instantly adore Nine.
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So that's just a part of all my ideas.
I would like to better put them together into something more consistent. Need to work on it, perhaps some day I will make a story based on this rewrite idea.