SHUSH.... He's Reading

I feel like a big huge GIGANTIC maybe even GINORMOUS reason for the eventual and inevitable decline of the average kpop fandom, i.e the exo fandom is the absolute refusal and denial to have serious conversations. When I look at other fandoms some way older, others not even half as profitable as your average boy brand, the only difference that I see with the exo brand vs say a nsync or micheal jackson fandom or maybe even a gravity falls fandom, is conversation. See, whenever you silence the majority of people who actually have something interesting to say, don't be surprised when those that are simply following the wave, just move on to whatever is new and shiny. Supernatural is an old as hell fandom and they still have kept up a large support system, and it's not because they come out with new music every five minutes. It's because the writers, creators and actors listen. The fans communicate, they talk about serious things. Whether it's about the story, plot, an actor just having a baby and them sending well wishes. The average failed fandom is hostile, both inside and out. S.m is hostile towards the artist, the artist are distant towards the fans and the fans are hostile towards one another. You cannot have a different opinion than what the company is directing you to have, you can't disagree with the majority opinion. There's no talking anything out, there's no theorizing, there's no creativity, there's no point to anything. So how can you be surprised kpop fandoms die so completely after about 5-7 years, maybe a few after that. Even me saying will insult people and cause them to be negative. When this is just constructive criticism. Yet, nobody wants any of that in the kpop fandom. This is why once the companies stops promoting or giving major bucks to a group the fandoms die completely. It's not self sustaining. A lot of these fans have a lack of actual passion towards the group. Because what passion can you have for a manufactured product? Fans even insult a hypothetical groups of fans. Getting angry and cursing and throwing out toxicity more than they will say commentary on an album, or give an opinion on a video.

Even when it's something meant to garner talk fans ignore it and would rather get angry at something hypothetic, 'like yeah if anyone says anything negative about this I'll do xyz, screw them, or comment about allegedly seeing something negative written somewhere'

It's exhausting and immature. Nobody wants to be apart of something so negative. I get people want attention and comments, but honestly I don't blame fans for rescinding. Many fans must go to secretive forums to have conversations that would get them mass reported. And guess what? Some fans are still trying to get those forums shut down. You can't give an opinion, you can't talk about the obvious, you can't be happy if someone wants to leave a group and live their own life. You have to stay in this middle school mindset forever or you will get attacked. But then people wonder why people just lurk and don't say anything, or support the group. Nobody wants to support a bunch of lunatics.

People like to talk freely, laugh, make funny videos, people do not want to deal with being judged or mocked for making a joke. So many creators have been bullied into deleting all their work and now the same people who helped get rid of those people are wondering why their work isn't popular like theirs. I remember days when genuinely talented people would make content and it was great, but if they said something TRUE they were bullied.

It's honestly really sad, but I don't really feel bad. This has happened to loads of fandoms. Stop bullying people off the internet for speaking freely.

I'll leave this here as a food for thought.

There's only two exo creators I can name that made a real positive cultural impact with spreading the group to a global audience. Exosexo and madeline. Both were bullied out the kpop fandom spere. Nobody feels any shame for doing so. Despite the fact that many people constantly cry about idol's mental health, but had no cares for if these girls would of hurt themselves due to all the bullying.

I wasn't in the fandom when the two of them were bullied but I'm sure I would of thought the people doing so were pathetic just like I do now.

Once I found out the reason for them bullying exosexo and knowing that now she is doing a great job promoting her new fandom anime, and is really successful at it, it's clear kpop fans lost out.

Her grave sin was saying that all of exo had plastic surgery, to which millions of people called her racist and a liar....

I could insult but what would be the point of that. Stupid wouldn't even be the word. Most have said outwardly or implied that they've gotten it; or maybe the fact that you can see some of their surgery scars might be enough, but when you worship another human as a grown adult of course your brain has to be for decoration.

Even if she was dead wrong, how is that racist? It's not people just use whatever they can to make others shut up. Even trying to get journalists fired if they don't butter up whatever kpop idol they are talking about. As long as you act like a petulant child of course your average listener is going to dip and ignore and block any kpop content they see. In the end that poor behavior will only hurt the industry you are trying to support.

why imo jongin is a mom but not a 'mother'

months after watching he's expecting on netflix and becoming aware of the plethora of male's being pregnant movies that exist and discovering in it's genesis mpreg was meant to be a analysis on gender differences and what it would be like if women didn't have to worry about pregnancy and men did I'm wondering why 99.9 percent of mpreg don't have women in it, like at all. Like thats the main point gender analysis but many mpregs only have one gender.

Its a whole new year and going through the jongin ff tag im always like maybe something will surprise me but its all the segregation, straight fics have super serious masculine and yaoi has versatility but there's like no mention of women like not even a neighbour and the feminist in me is like

But I do like emotional vulnerable kji in fics cause it feels more real, but when the author slides in a comment about women making them seem like the plague I just can't ignore it like I used to when I was 12. Cause like why. Last year a yaoi fic i read I was like wow so well written but then the author made two derogatory comments about women for like no reason. I felt super weird about that cause like what was the reason

I was more intelligent next time I was determined find a writer who could write female characters into a fic that didn't have females as the main love interest. I believed in humanity.

Found one but everyone in the comment kept complaining that there were too many women and too much character development.

Then there's the issue of despite nearly every kpop ff taking place in america there's only korean characters and no discussion of like any wider array of topics like ever. Like stuff do be happening in america. I just feel like fanfics fell off when people stopped writing like they were writing real people on a real planet. It may be a side effect that kpop became so closed off and cult like over the years. Idols being kept in boxes only interacting with select groups of people. It made fans not want to even think of idols in real life situations. I truly believe if exo was on tmz in some mess some people actually might pass out. Sm kept them in a bubble. Most of kpop is in a bubble. It makes the fans more emotionally connected but also they seriously don't think they have autonomy. Like fans are okay with idol interactions but if somebody saw an idol dancing in a club with somebody w video evidence like the facade would be shattered. Nobody would say it but many would not like that person anymore. I think its expressed in the ff. Like in reality kai's very feminine, he is there's nothing wrong with that. He has been since childhood. But depending on who he is in a fan's perception. Whether he's the dominant part of a ship or in a het context or a cute tw!nk like there's always authenticity missing when people write him. Like whole parts of his character are missing.

Cause he is feminine but also tends to act more feminine when around women which is psychologically interesting to me. Anyway I guess what I'm getting at is like why has no one written a he's expecting au for him?

Not in a pushy way just in a pondering way.

Like lmao watch andante he was basically as omega as you can get

the girlfriend character took the reigns and the entire show completely flipped gender norms on its head. But I've seen many say they didn't like the show simply because he was with a girl and by proxy that meant it was cliche and played out not even bothering to watch the entire show. (Its not even that the girlfriend was masculine he just let her take the lead)

Which is an insult to kji because all his characters were unique and complex he never wanted to play just a generic lead which is why he turned down so many roles. I firmly believe he could of been in many shows and even films but he wanted to choose roles he felt built up the image and mythos of kai. He never wanted to do variety for that reason.

In miracle we met he played an angel but not only that but also a sort of romantic interest to an older non traditional female lead character. Sadly because of traditional views the relationship wasn't looked at as closely as it would have been if the actress was younger and closer to the beauty standards. If a show isn't pushing or hitting people over the head with something people simply ignore it.

If it's not aesthetic enough people simply overlook what is being shown to them.

Again a big part of this is the compartmentalized thinking of society. People tend to stay in the realm of what the media pushes and is deemed acceptable.

Lastly in spring has come many interesting topics where explored, including typical non traditional gender roles, age difference, money in relation to love, and sadly many either avoided the show because of it being het and not bl or disliked it because there wasn't a kissing scene.

Kji may not speak a lot about his personal life and preferences but I believe he chooses to show it instead by meticulously immersing himself in the projects he is apart of.

Its like its been such a long time since debuted I feel like fics concerning him could be like a wee bit more complex.

he used to be so talkative and expressive. I believe a part of him becoming introverted was because sm pushed him into being a blank canvas for the public. Despite publicly dating twice he consistently plays like he has no experience with anything and is always careful to talk in terms of metaphors concerning women. Exo l being his girlfriend publicly is like so

cause back in the day fans would have been like lmao how cringe now its like they are all aboard. The parasocialism is flourishing. But it means nobody wants him to act or date or do anything interesting that would give him you know inspo for the albums they love so much. Personally as a former directioner I feel like in terms of high art, dating models, a kardashian or a thespian works best.

Not even talking just girls even at gucci events he sticks by staff he doesn't go out and mingle w male models despite a quick chat or photos. Like when he went back to korea and wrote exo l a note basically saying how he was the only korean and didnt talk to anyone. He can speak english its just not his image to hang around foreigners. its really sad honestly and no I don't think its just cause he is introverted I believe its partially out of fear. Kfans would drop him if he hung out with a different racial group simply because its something they don't expect from him. Members of black pink can do it but their fans don't see them as a bubble chia pet. Boy band fans want subordination in all ways or else they drop members. A group of ppl on twitter said ksoo wanted western validation and implied he didn't want to be korean cause he talked about camila cabello and justin beiber and someone said baekhyun was shameful for liking chris brown

Which is literally insane they expect them to be in a bubble a prepubescent fanservice never talk about women or men who date women. Its ridiculous. I just miss when kji could have his own personality and image but over the years the fan view began to restrict his self expression. Its only shown in his albums but then he can't talk about it.

Tbh if he can get back into acting idc what ff authors write. Everytime exo needs to go viral he has to wear his back tf out arching it like that. Yoga can only help so much. Post military idk how much more he can take. I think he could do sci fi pretty well, I can see him in an alice and borderland type show. Or the weird types of jdramas. Honestly I always thought he'd go to america eventually sm just had to be smart about doing it. Idk if harry can get in a marvel movie I truly believe anything is possible. I saw that policeman movie poor baby can't act to save his life.

Lmao all this cause I was mad people only wrote him intersex in the context of yaoi. Like has nobody watched cw, freeform,? Good trouble. Maybe he's a single pre law student trying to make it in the big city, accidentally gets pregnant then gives the baby up to a wealthy couple only to change his mind and raise the kid on his own with his quirky roomates. Like not everything has to be a romance. Jongin is a strong independent blaq ish woman who does not need a man. He's proved this countless times. Everything he does thats effeminate on twitter is meow meow, kitten, malewife. Like where was the neocapitalist feminism we were all indoctrinated under, where's the great mother worship, where is the respect for the divine feminine. Its all become a joke I fear. I have no proper reasoning but I blame tyler perry. After Madea's family reunion all female led movies turned into domestic violence themed messes. But on that note like kji does kinda look like jlo in enough or gives off the same mama bear energy. I think an enough au could work...imma just stop here cause im tired and ill start on my multitude of late night brain theories of how sm could of had exo on shake it up and kai and rocky could of had a dance battle.....

super m promoting melanated is why they got hate and fans didn't support

eco

Nature

they are sending pictures and have him write somber letters like he's actually in prison to build up suspense when in reality he could have been just did a live on instagram.... like on one hand I don't think he should spend every waking moment checking in yet at the same time I feel like at the very least he should be able to speak his mind. Let's be honest weverse is very controlled, and all of this has s.m written all over it. He's always been terrified about going against what the staff and managers want. So he's probably updating whether he wants to or not. I think especially since everybody is making career changing moves regarding s.m and kpop in general. He needs to start speaking up for himself, these people will use him until he literally can't go anymore. Everyone who filed a lawsuit is not lying, but with kai he genuinely thinks if he works hard enough and does everything they say them they will treat him right. The military thing showed that's literally not true, they only care about money, if they could replace him tomorrow they would. His loyalty to s.m is becoming his weakness I hope he can figure out how to brand himself and speak for himself. He must. S.m is brokedown and desperate they will sacrifice anybody for a quick check.

240314 Kai Weverse Update

"I’m thinking of you when Spring is coming. Don’t catch a cold on a warm spring day!" Translation

The kaiyonce theory I wanna do will actually be a trilogy; coming this summer, finally culminating in a documentary where they finally meet in person and merge into one person ala steven universe.

damn…. kaiyoncé is real

Capitalism kills

people are way to general with the exposing celebs argument for me, like you either wanna talk about EVERYTHING or nothing. There's no in between. And people usually stop at the simple judging a celeb because it's popular. Celebs are only the reflection of the current celebrity. A school of fish won't give birth to a giraffe. If someone with money fame and success acts like a demon that's because the society upheld that standard. People's subconscious mind intakes everything. In a society where alcohol and drugs are okay, fighting and harming others is funny why would it surprise you that people with fame and money participate in that as well? It shouldn't. In reality people support villains the most. Mind you clark kent gets treated like crap for being a nice person, but people uplift superman only when he is destroying and fighting. People are awful in general therefore what celebs do don't surprise me. but it's acting like you cannot discuss if someone has narcissistic or sociopathic tendencies. But when it comes out they hurt others everyone is shocked. No people are fake and hive minded. Only ready to crap on someone when it's socially acceptable. If people thought logically and it was normal to observe people's behavior and protect your heart and emotions nobody would be hurt by celebs or family or friends getting exposed. But human society rewards ignorance. Like no. That's not cute at all. That being said even if I like of kekeke about someone that doesn't mean I'm ignorant to darker or shadow sides of their personality. I wish it was normal not being a fairy about another human beings like humans aren't naturally lying and violent creatures. It's actually sad how it mentally hurts people to think of someone they like in a realistic way. This is how people have psychotic breaks whenever their faves gets outed. Honestly this is making me reflect on my youth when I thought it was cute to ignore the human imperfect sides of someone. Never do that. Don't bully or make fun of people ever but be realistic. That can save someone's life seriously. I've seen people get scolded into turning their lives around. But sadly many think that is hating, but it isn't. As a large group, telling someone they need to go get help and take care of themselves isn't overstepping. That shit can save someone's life, literally. Even if you don't know them formally. People need to stop being hesitant to tell the real about people to protect their reputation. It only helps the one drowning feel like nobody can see their pain. Instead of spamming people's dm's with praise or inappropriate photos to puff up their ego, try to encourage them to get help if you have to do anything. Honestly a lot of celebs are mentally unhealthy, not all but a lot. Some people don't need access to large amounts of cash like that, but it's like the most insecure people in the world are getting quick cash and it's killing them. There is no buying happiness. A lot of them need to just stop being famous because they cannot handle it. Some people can because they are stable and confident but a majority literally cannot. Its okay to make it clear that you will not support someone until they take a much needed break and go get mental, spiritual and physical help.

I love how they were all in each others space and ty stopped and turned away when bk said that and then Kai busted out laughing and vehemently denied it and they put all the blame on bk and gets closer with him again. Ty just let kji handle it cause he's not a good liar. "Like real brothers"..................... just what could he be referring to???????????

Lmao he said even "real brothers don't do that" and then hit ty on the back. It's so funny cause people will lie and their body language tells on them. Lmao he hit him so hard on the back cause his laughing was giving the truth away.

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