Does Hellspawn Make New Friends At School?

I'm soo tired and that made me not finish.

Hellspawn's birthdays throughout the seasons/years?

1st birthday

pre s4

Sensei G's monastery

unfortunately, it wasn't really a good one, because Zane wasn't there — we all know why :( — and the team was pretty much a split up mess. It was fortunate the other three at least made an effort to show up, but it really felt like there was something missing.

Kai bought his honorary niece some baby hair clips — cuz hair is priority — and Lloyd sucks with his own hair, so he's trying to help the kid out.

Nya, on the other hand, was like "I'm gonna turn this kid into a future builder" so she got her some blocks.

Cole and Jay each got her an onesie...the same one. (sigh) They ended up bickering about it during the entire party.

Sensei G and Misako gave her a stuffed dragon that... looks familiar to Lloyd in a way. Wu just nods at Lloyd knowingly.

Meanwhile Lloyd wanted to make her first birthday as special as possible even though he knew she wouldn't remember it so he made her a mini version of his gi. Sadly, it didn't take long for her to grow out of it and that gave Lloyd some grief....well, lots of grief.

2nd birthday

This one was shortly after Stiix

a whole lot better than the first. They celebrated on the bounty

Zane was there (Yay!), and baked the cake. He (and Pixal) also got her some of those sortable shape toys to exercise brainpower. Nya just says it's because no one wants hellspawn to get Lloyd's iq and... Pixal agrees.

Lloyd bought her some finger paints...which she loved so much that she used them on his hair and face. Her excuse was that Unca' Zane had taught her that paper was bad for trees so naturally, she decided to go for another green source.

Jay got her another version of Mister Cuddlywomp, while Cole showed up with a toy piano — his dad's idea, actually. "Introducing kids to music at a young age is a great way to encourage brain development"...(and turn them into musicians, goes unsaid)

Once again, Kai was like "my niece better be stylish and not have little gremlin Lloyd's horrible taste" and got her a leather jacket — toddler size, of course. This guy even brought some sunglasses and a hat. Nya thinks it looks ridiculous.

Meanwhile, Nya came with some bath toys — which she designed herself to be durable enough against the strong waves of the sea. (She's still not over her new Master of Water status)

Misako got her a book full of children's stories — maybe a collection of legends would be more accurate. She's the historian of the family for a reason.

Dareth gave her a mini plushie of himself and she kept pointing out how much the plushie's eyebrows don't even look anything like his real ones.

3rd birthday

some time before Day of the Departed

on the destiny's bounty

Hellspawn wanted to learn airjitzu but that was quickly out of the question — she's too young. And for FSM's sake, she hasn't even learned spinjitzu yet. So that was instantly a no.

So, Misako was like: just do what your father did with you. He didn't listen to me, but you turned out just fine — I still do not understand how you even turned out just fine!

Which was why Lloyd decided to put her on his shoulders and spin around until they were both surrounded by green. Mission accomplished.

But it is only that he realizes that he'd forgotten the fact she'd just eaten some of the cake earlier and has the stomach of a nauseous toddler. Too bad it's too late to do anything. Lloyd ended up needing a shower shortly after that. Jay got a picture :(

4th birthday

pre s8

The apartment Lloyd was stuck living in during the year they were looking for Wu.

Dareth decided that she was already old enough to learn a 'sacred' karate move he personally invented. After learning it, she ran to use it on Lloyd.

Misako couldn't show up because she was too far away, but the others managed to come. Except Nya, but she still joined via face time and sent a parcel.

Lloyd made a cake himself instead of relying on Zane and it actually turned out to be edible. Kai was wondering if they'd entered the apartment of an imposter.

But actually, Skylor helped. So yes, the real Green Ninja has not been kidnapped by aliens. Lloyd can be trusted living on his own. A new invasion isn't coming, So Kai, stop setting chopsticks on fire, Nya can't save your ass—

5th birthday

At the monastery, post MoTo

Unfortunately, there's a reason Garmadon isn't here (I've added it in that post about how the ninja managed to take care of hellspawn)

That morning, Wu finds a strange package left outside, with a note that just says Happy Birthday in messy, familiar handwriting. He knows very well who it's from and opens the package to find a plushie of a plant...an unusual choice from someone like him.

Wu then just lies that it's a gift from a fan and the ninja believe him. So Lloyd lets hellspawn have it.

He ends up despising the gift during Crystalized. 😭

6th birthday

pre s13

celebrated in kindergarten. Which Jay jokes was merely done because Lloyd doesn't want their presence.

But actually, Lloyd does. Because he's getting too many stares and questions from the other kids and he's only doing this because hellspawn wanted to after she saw her classmate do something like this. They celebrated again at the monastery hours later.

And Lloyd gets to meet the boy hellspawn made immediate friends with and finally has confirmation that he's being overprotective over nothing.

The only piece of evidence that could possibly refute the theory that Wu's pet chicken is secretly Libber Gordon, is that the chicken has lightning powers and Libber has already passed her powers to Jay by this point. Still, Ninjago's lore is already bullshit enough as it is and i refuse to let go of that theory. I dont care what anyone says, Libber is the chicken. I feel this in my soul.

How were the ninja managing to take care of little hellspawn throughout the seasons? Did her existence changed certain events or did the seasons plot stay the same?

Also little hellspawn hugging her daddy when he's sad after the oni trilogy and being adorable comforting him

P.S: i can't think about any right now but how about names that start with L to match her dad? maybe search some on google?

Hmmmm. Well, I would say MOST of the events stayed the same with her existence. Not all, but MOST. I'll answer until Season 10 first.

So she would have to be born during Season 3, before Lloyd lost his Golden Power. There are two options here. One is that it was an ordinary day at Garmadon's monastery and Lloyd just happened to be experimenting a little with his powers, while the other one is that she was born while Lloyd and Garm were on the run from the Overlord. It's also Lloyd's fault for not listening to his dad about being careful of overusing his powers. Take your pick.

Although I personally love chaos * inserts maniacal laughter *, I'll be using the first one for this post. (I might write another one about the second option if there's a lot of interest in it though, but right now that's kinda hard to work with)

Rebooted

She's like six months old here, and Misako takes the kid while Lloyd and Sensei G are on the run from the Overlord. Garmadon still isn't quite happy with the fact his son just spawned a kid at the age he currently is, and Lloyd on the other hand is still a disaster when it comes to children. They somehow manage to work it out though. She's also present at Zane's funeral.

Tournament of Elements

The season where our new dad literally leaves his kid sleeping in his dad's monastery to compete in a noodle guy's tournament. (Sigh) She's about a year old here. And eventually, her grandad leaves too but his is actually an attempt to knock some sense into her father, but even he doesn't come back either so...

Possession

About fifteen months old.

While helping Wu set up the tea shop, Lloyd left her alone long enough for her to get her hands on Montrositea and use it on a plant.

While being possessed, Morro would often torment Lloyd by showing him nightmarish visions of him hurting her whenever he tried to fight back. On one occasion, he had a nightmare that he caused her death while being possessed, and without even a single ounce of control to stop it from happening.

Skybound

Around 2. I like to think that Lloyd would be the type of person to keep their kid out of the spotlight ya know?Considering how much the press had been on him after the Final Battle. And, I also like to think that the fact that the Green Ninja even had a kid was leaked shortly after Stiix. Just imagine the fan girls scene in the first episode of Skybound... but ten times worse.

While they were in jail, the kid got taken by CPS. After they broke out, Lloyd found her and gave her to Dareth in the middle of the night after literally breaking into the dude's apartment. Since the events of Skybound were erased, this no longer happened, and no one remembers this.

Day of the Departed

3 years old. She goes with Misako & Lloyd to light a lantern for Garmadon in the Corridor of Elders. She also thought Pythor was actually an overgrown tape worm, well maybe that's what he was in the Great Devourer's belly.

Morro felt really guilty for what he did to Lloyd while possessing him. So much so that the guy even apologized.

Hands of Time

Still 3. (I can't do much with this season because I didn't really finish it) But let's just say, Krux thought her eyes were a bit creepy.

Sons of Garmadon

Well, I think I've already explained this one before.

But if you're interested in some pre SOG info : The kid started to notice her dad's voice pitching deeper but whenever she points that out, Lloyd just laughs. It's only until the team comments about it in The Mask of Deception does he actually realize she was right. During the year the team is searching for Wu, he lives in the city with her and Pixal—who's a lifesaver whenever he gets a bit clueless on things about children's development. She's about 4 here by the way.

Bonus; she fell really ill at some point during the year they were searching for Wu and Lloyd took her to Mystake, hence explaining Mystake's familiarity with Lloyd in Season 8. (This was before his voice completely settled btw)

Hunted

The kid stays with Lloyd in Ninjago, and does her best to cheer her dad up after the death of his friends. It goes to a point where Lloyd actually snaps at her, something which makes him feel utterly terrible moments later. (It's stress from everything bruh. His friends just died and the city's under the rule of his tyrannical resurrected father. Give him a BREAK)

And do you remember that scene where Misako and some of the EMs got arrested by the SOG? Little hellspawn was one of them and this really sent Lloyd and Nya into fucking panic mode for the most of the season.

However, she was actually unharmed. Emperor Garmadon basically took one look at her and decided he kind of liked this kid, I guess? (* insert Harumi seething in the corner *) Kind of like Maleficent and young Aurora vibes, if you get what I mean.

The season ended like it originally did though. The Resistance members in Kryptarium broke out, and Garmadon was arrested.

March of the Oni

Nya bought her a green kimono while shopping for her own blue one. Hellspawn also caught Jay practicing his proposal to Nya but decided to keep it to herself.

Garmadon also requested Lloyd bring her while visiting him, but Lloyd decided not to and went alone. Garmadon wasn't quite pleased.

When the ninja heard about the dark cloud thing happening in Ninjago City, Lloyd told his kid to stay in the monastery, but of course—like a certain demon child that once snuck on a Serpentine bus—she snuck aboard the bounty. Lloyd almost lost his shit when he found out.

After Garmadon was released from the prison, he tried to get closer to the young hellspawn while on the bounty, getting to know her etc. Lloyd wasn't happy with that, and told him off immediately, having very little trust in this version of his father.

Hellspawn helped Garmadon to understand humanity after Lloyd yelled at him about survival in The Fall. He doesn't quite understand everything, but he gets a somewhat picture of what it means. Of what there's more to life than survival means.

When it was time for the final fight in the monastery, Lloyd suddenly picked her up and handed her to Misako despite her protests & attempts to bite him.

At the end of the season, Garmadon doesn't immediately leave. Instead, he attempts to stay behind as his four-armed resurrected self merely to remain close with hellspawn (maybe it's also cuz she begged him not to leave when he wanted to lol). But what I'm saying is, the only reason this guy is still in the monastery is hellspawn, not Lloyd, not Wu, not Misako. Just this tiny young girl who looks a lot like a blonde boy he faintly remembers. But Lloyd here believes his father is up to something and (I really hate to say this, but for the sake of Crystalized's events I have to 😭), but Lloyd basically just yells at Garmadon to leave, and he does. Poor guy's trust issues are damn severe.

And hmmmm, names starting with L it is.

also ‘you could stay’ ?

Time-travel fic where after Misako leaves her young son at Darkley's Boarding School, she meets a familiar-looking teenager on the way back. The teen looks startled upon seeing her — as though they've actually met before, which is odd, because Misako can swear she's never even once seen him.

After a while, the teen then introduces himself as Montgomery — which surprises Misako, because that's her last name. So they talk a bit, and Montgomery tells her a made-up story I haven't decided on yet, but it's just to make it seem as though he has nowhere to go. This causes Misako to say he can stay with her for a few days, and Montgomery agrees.

Misako then takes him to her home, all while noticing how interested Montgomery seems to be in where she's been living with her son after Garmadon got banished. During his stay there, Misako spends most of her time researching the prophecy, desperate to find a way for it to just be words on a scroll. One day as she does so, Montgomery notices a photograph of her with a young child that looks a lot like him, and asks whether that's her son.

Misako is very startled at the question, and hesitantly nods. Montgomery then comments that he hasn't seen any children around here. Misako replies that he's at school, and that it's a boarding one. Montgomery merely raises an eyebrow at her, before pointing out that the boy looks too young to be on his own. Inwardly, Misako can't help but agree with that, yet she still calmly states that he'll manage. At that, Montgomery goes quiet, which surprises her. However, Misako does not question it, and merely goes back to her research.

As the days pass, she notices how interested Montgomery is in Lloyd, and how often the teenager tries to question her about her son. He asks Misako all sorts of things, like whether she's writing to him and when she's planning to take him home or visit him. Misako manages to dodge the questions though, saying it's only been a few days since she's sent him there and he needs to learn to be on his own instead of having her coddle him. Another thing she notices is how much Montgomery resembles her husband, but she brushes the detail off as just a coincidence. And speaking of Garmadon, Montgomery also asks a lot about her husband as well.

Eventually, the day Montgomery's supposed to leave arrives and he does so without even trying to stay any longer. After he leaves, Misako shifts all her attention to her research to find a way to save both her husband and son, and this goes on for a while until one day when she....

....gets a call from Darkley's headmaster telling her that the son of Garmadon is missing.

Misako goes frantic. How could he have disappeared? It hadn't even been a week since she'd left him for FSM's sake!

However, some time later, there's a knock on her door. Startled, she opens it, only to see little Lloyd standing there with no one else in sight, and no luggage with him other than a stuffed toy which she doesn't even remember getting him. Upon seeing her, little Lloyd starts crying and reaching for her, telling her about how mean the other kids and even the teachers had been to him.

It nearly slips her mind to ask him how he even got back home in the first place, but eventually she does. And that's when her heart drops.

The fic ends with Misako deciding to officially take little Lloyd out from the school and bring him back home, promising to never leave him again. How could she have even done that, she thinks. How had that even crossed her mind?

Wouldn't it be funny if when hellspawn... well spawned garm/misako called wu and the ninja to try and tell them to come over (and bring baby stuff while their at it) but the situation was so chaotic that the ninja only understood a small part of it and, with the little info they had; concluded that lloyd was turned into a baby?

Takes place sometime before s3.

Don't get him wrong. Cole had always been someone who liked kids.

Just...just not these kids.

"Being a teacher is hard work," Kai complained, plopping down a nearby chair as soon as he could step into the break room. His usually well-gelled hair was beginning to droop miserably. "If my work of art gets another spitball when my back is turned again I swear I'll—"

"Work of art? FSM, who told you that lie?" Nya snorted, only to receive a very nasty glare from her brother at that comment. "That's a mess."

"Those kids are the mess," Kai grumbled, hands reaching up to comb through his hair to find any remaining atrocities. "They're even worse than the baby gremlin version of Lloyd. Can you believe that?"

"You're telling me," Cole rubbed his eyes. "I come in ten minutes late and someone lets Ninjago's most poisonous scorpion walk around the classroom."

"How did they even bring one in, again?" Nya sighed, pinching the bridge of her nose wearily. "Enough said. We need stricter rules."

"As if that'll stop them," Kai huffed, chucking his file across the room. "Keep dreaming."

" 'Educating the future of Ninjago' my butt. Wu definitely hates us."

"Bad day too huh, zaptrap?" Cole winched sympathetically, watching Jay's head dip in a depressed nod as he made a beeline for the freezer.

"We went from saving Ninjago to needing to be saved," Jay stressed, eyes scanning through the contents of the refrigerator before then widening. "Hey. Who took my pudding cup?"

"You had a pudding cup?" Cole blinked, his gaze briefly falling on the empty plastic container in front of him on the table. At that, Jay's eyes locked on it as well. "Um...sorry?" He tried, grimacing at once.

"Bullied by my students, and now bullied by my friends," Jay said miserably, slamming the fridge door shut at once. "This is just great."

"Perfect for a villain arc," Kai said helpfully, only to receive incredulous looks from everyone else in the room. "What? Literature is finally growing on me."

"I can't believe I got stuck with history," Jay groaned, sounding as though he was tempted to bang his head against the table. "Zane's the walking textbook. He should be teaching history."

"Unfortunately, that would leave a vacancy for the science teacher position," Zane replied, walking into the room — weirdly percent timing, Cole thought suspiciously. "I believe Wu does not wish to look elsewhere for a replacement."

"Yeah," Kai rolled his eyes. "So he can continue to pay us like—"

"But Nya could teach science," Jay suggested, looking at her pleadingly. "Right, Nya?"

Nya seemed to contemplate that thought. "I guess I could—"

"See?"

"But you're gonna have to take over math," Nya told him, chewing on the inside of her cheek. "You have to spend the rest of your life hearing those kids talk about how much they hate you and—"

Jay blinked. "Wait, what—"

"Yeah," Nya shrugged. "And then, they start debates with you asking why the heck do we have to learn this—"

"Well that's normal for me," Jay said, and then frowned. "Anyway, why are we forced to learn math, again?"

"I often wonder that myself," Sensei coughed.

All of them nearly jumped at that, not having seen him enter. The old man merely shook his head.

"You five have become less vigilant," he stated exasperatedly, the bottom of his bamboo staff colliding with the floor as he continued to step forward. "Such carelessness could be your downfall."

Kai just stared at him in disbelief. "So is that why those brats keep scheming against me?"

"Probably," Jay suggested, only to earn a scowl in response. "And by the way Sensei, I kinda have a teeny, tiny little request as a teacher—"

"Oh, I've already heard that," Sensei replied, giving him a brief knowing look. "As long as Nya and Zane are alright with this new arrangement, I don't see any reason to refuse you."

"I have no issue with this," Zane chimed in, and Nya nodded in agreement.

"Oh, those kids don't know what's coming, alright," she grinned mischievously. "I can't wait for the experiments—"

It was then when the sound of ringing cut the air.

Cole's eyes immediately fell on the telephone.

"I will get it," Sensei told them, before any of them could bother getting up. Cole felt his eyebrows knit into a frown. Hang on, hadn't the last time that phone had gotten a call been when—

Jay's face was suddenly as pale as a sheet. "Please tell me they aren't going to enroll in another—"

"Hello. This is Darkley's Boarding School For Great Children how may I — brother?" Sensei blinked, sounding genuinely surprised at the fact the former dark lord was calling him at this point of the day. "Is everything alright?"

Cole watched questioningly as the old man's expression suddenly tightened, before then proceeding to take the deepest dive into confusion in the history of Ninjago.

"What do you mean?" Sensei asked incredulously, both of his eyebrows rising high enough to be concealed by the shadow of his straw hat. "Brother, of all the methods you could use to antagonize me—"

"What the heck is going on?" Jay whispered.

"No idea," Cole mouthed, continuing to listen intently with a deeper frown. Had Garmadon sprouted another pair of arms again or something?

Then, suddenly, the old master stilled, his golden eyes far wider than they had ever seen them. The knuckles of the hand holding the phone were visibly white with how tightly he was gripping it.

It was a while until he managed to bring himself to speak once again.

"A baby, Garmadon — what was he thinking—"

"What?" Nya gasped, and Kai's jaw dropped open at once, the hothead looking as though he was about to faint. Even Zane was no different.

What. On Earth. Was Going On.

"He is more like Father than I thought," Sensei lamented miserably, as though he very much regretted that fact.

He, Cole realized, taking note of that detail immediately. That could only mean Sensei was referring to—

"Alright, alright," Sensei sighed, his grip on the phone faltering slightly. "We'll be there, brother."

Then, he placed the telephone back on its holder, pushing it away immediately.

"What was that about, Sensei?" Nya asked.

The old master met her gaze tiredly, appearing as though he regretted hearing the sound of ringing in the first place.

He heaved out a sigh. "Garmadon has called."

Kai shot him a deadpan stare. "Yeah. We could tell—"

"I'm afraid we will need to leave the academy in the care of Dareth until we return," Sensei said, running a hand over his face wearily. "Garmadon requires our presence. As soon as possible."

"Well care to tell us why?" Jay crossed his arms. "And what was that about a baby?"

"You also used the third person pronoun 'he' at the three minute and thirty one second mark of your conversation," Zane pointed out, sounding genuinely curious. "That would most likely mean—"

"—that this is something related to Lloyd," Cole finished, unsurprised that the others had pieced it together too. "Master," he then asked hesitantly. "is Lloyd okay?"

"What the hell is happening?" Kai yelped.

Sensei closed his eyes, raising his head as though to stare at the ceiling in despair. "Dear First Spinjitzu Master."

"I think we broke him," Jay whispered mournfully. For the first time in his life, Cole was forced to agree.

"I believe this will be easier to explain once you have seen it for yourselves," Wu finally admitted, his voice painfully strained. Cole held back a grimace. "In the meantime, gather as many items that can be used to care for an infant as possible—I'm sure Garmadon will greatly appreciate it," he told them, giving them all a weak smile. "Now excuse me, I must go find Dareth."

Jay looked at them all in bewilderment after the old man had turned around and left. "But we don't even have baby stuff—"

"Exactly, so screw it," Kai hissed, something in his eyes now ablaze. "I'm going to head there now and storm the place until I find out what's going on. Who's with me?"

"Me," chorused four other voices without hesitation. After that, Nya suddenly furrowed her brow in concentration.

"I just really don't understand the baby part," she muttered, her forehead creasing as she continued to ponder on that thought. "You know, at first I was convinced that Sensei G and Misako had welcomed a baby — but then, that thing about Lloyd came along."

"Or maybe Lloyd's the baby?" Jay offered.

Cole's mind went blank.

"What?"

"You're kidding me," Kai said, his tone edged in disbelief. "No. There's no way."

"But what if there is?" Jay begged. "I mean, didn't Sensei mention something about Lloyd and the FSM?"

"He is correct," Zane confirmed with a nod. "There was a moment where Sensei expressed regret at their similarities — thus hinting that the current matter at hand is something the First Spinjitzu Master experienced himself."

"And what does Lloyd have that the FSM did, again? Power," Jay said, flailing his arms for emphasis. "We're not talking about just any power here — the golden shit."

"So you're saying Lloyd turned himself into a baby," Nya actually sounded more amused than scandalized at the suggestion. "Actually now that I think about it, that makes sense."

Cole stared at her like she'd just conjured a dragon. "Sense?"

"Yup," she hummed, and then gestured to Kai as though she was showing all of them an artistic masterpiece. "Just look at who's his mentor."

Kai let out a pained groan as all eyes fell on him. "Why is it always me—"

"I had hoped you would have an explanation for that," Zane said dryly. Kai buried his face into his hands.

"My baby brother, here I come," he mumbled, shaking his head.

Wu to Lloyd later : There is something I haven't told you—

Thanks for the ask!

Imagine Akita meeting the Lloyd hellspawn.

Hmmmmm....Akita 👀. Now that's something interesting to think about.

Lloyd's kid absolutely loves her. No doubt about that. I mean, what kid wouldn't want to pet a cute furry wolves' fur, ya know? And what wolf wouldn't feel a little annoyed about that though?

But the kid grows on her after a while, that's for sure. I know in S11, Lloyd told the team he was going to go find Zane alone, but I just like the idea of mini him deciding to tag along secretly, and Lloyd only realizes that until they're miles away from the village. And maybe she wasn't even supposed to be in the Neverrealm either — but of course, she's got too much of Lloyd's genes (and maybe even Kai's influence) to stay put in Ninjago after she saw the ninja... errr literally tie up Wu in front of her.

Oh, and during the moment Lloyd's mouth decides to use Akita as a therapist, her eyes are turning to the kid, basically as if asking whether her dad really isn't the type to shut up. Honestly, even the kid kinda knows her dad needs therapy, so she's... grateful for Akita I guess?

Ninjago AU where everything is the same, but Christofern is not a fern.

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Jaded Scarlet

Fragments of You

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Substitution

On A Wish & A Memory

You Could Stay

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Wilted

Borg's Fault At Its Finest (wHY did I name it this - what the heck was I on six months ago-)

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