here goes...
i think it’s quite telling that many swifties, including myself, cannot even post something where we mention that we often find queer themes/subtexts in taylor’s music with tags that other swifties use. when i use #taylorswift, i am bombarded by crowds of fans who tell me i am intrusive and disgusting.
first off, i want to know what the fuck is so disgusting about lesbianism? i want to know why it is permissible for straight swifties* to speak openly about taylor's sex life and not find their behavior encroaching, but the second i mention a lyric that strikes me as sapphic, i am being invasive?
i am not out here screaming TAYLOR SWIFT IS FUCKING GAY IF YOU OBJECT YOU'RE A LOUSY, HOMOPHOBIC BITCH IN DENIAL!!! i am simply pointing out how accurately taylor depicts the queer experience.
the only times i use examples from things in taylor's life that are not her songs are when there are obvious themes/motifs that stem from her music into her interviews, photoshoots, comments, and hidden messages. i interpret lyrics the way i interpret them, you interpret them the way you interpret them. all i am doing is noting queer themes in her songs, songs she puts out for the world to hear and explicate any way we wish.
i am analyzing what she deliberately puts out into the world, not her.
not to mention, she wants us to analyze these songs. she has said so before. she intentionally puts hidden messages in her album booklets, along with dropping hints as to who and what her songs are about.
if she was so uncomfortable with some of us interpreting her music as queer, with some of us interpreting certain things she says and/or uses visuals to represent as queer, don't you think she would say it? it would take mere seconds to log onto twitter and tell us to quit what we are doing. but she doesn't. straight swifties* are so incredibly defensive, and for what?
i see a lot of "well, everyone who interprets her music as gay is gay themselves, they're just projecting 🙄" and of course, i can't speak for everyone, but i know that taylor's music and the way she describes things resonate with queer swifties (myself included) in certain ways because we have experienced the things she describes. we have had to hide who we are, what we want, and who we are with. we relate to songs in which taylor expresses her fear of people finding her out because that is many of our everyday realities.
a lot of what makes many of us flock to any kind of gaylor group is homophobia from other swifties. we are shunned in swiftie spaces for saying things such as "wow, cowboy like me depicts a bearding relationship in hollywood perfectly" or, "as a queer woman, i identify with i know places, it seems like taylor has experienced what i have experienced."
i want to know this: if you are allowed to take taylor's music and apply it to your life, why can't i do the same?
from the way straight swifties* talk, i guess speculation about who she is dating is perfectly acceptable, until that speculation includes her dating a woman?
i don't want to have to stay in a smaller space of swifties, i'd love to interact with larger parts of the fandom. but if you're going to come at me for interpreting music differently than you do, if you are going to be blatantly homophobic, i am going to stick with people who are willing to be open minded, who are willing to look at different perspectives and let people interpret taylor's music the way they want to.
*when i say "straight swifties" i don't mean every straight person who enjoys taylor swift. i am referring to the swifties who refuse to even coexist with any of our queer interpretations of her music
The inspiration behind ‘Don’t blame me’, aka she is obsessed.
Yes, Taylor clearly sampled. This is not the point though. The point is what inspired her. Not only the lyrics but her muse as an angel that falls from grace. The fact that the commercial came out right after they met makes it all the more interesting. Now I want a mashup of both songs.
Maybe these 2 will come out next. 🤞🏼
#headrubgate #headinlapgate #douchgate
What are the top three things that happened in the last year or so that make you so confident they are still together? No “sources”. No small coincidences. Real things that make sense. No eye theory allowed! Go!
ok anon, i’ll bite!
-taylor’s sudden and sustained use of baby, child, and father imagery and language from lover era through folklore and evermore and now. karlie has done some of it too.
i could list it all up but this post would get very long and it’s, you know, a touchy subject. but i think it’s been pretty noticeable if you’ve been open to it. plus idk, taylor creates a whole album about a secret love and talks about wanting to be her lover’s end game but somehow it’s not supposed to include starting a family? and if it does it needs to be done publicly?
-taylor’s continued use of the crest symbol (something kaylors identified far earlier than swifties)
beyond the Lover music video, we see it in the evermore album photos, and she’s now used it on The Vault. it’s the snake looking like an S and the butterfly looking like a K, for me. plus.. crests are made for *families*
-social interactions with mutual acquaintances.
for example, cara delevigne going to see taylors SNL performance and also publicly sending karlie bottles of wine. misty copeland dancing for taylor’s AMA performance and then also posting a pic wearing a LIKE A KLOSS tshirt to instagram. lily aldridge wishing karlie a happy birthday using a pic where taylor’s right there in the frame. the haim sisters hanging out both with taylor and with karlie on multiple occasions. etc. and then brandon maxwell adding taylor swift songs to his runway shows, and christian siriano often featuring pics on instagram of taylor in dresses he’s designed. all this while karlie hosted project runway with them as judge and mentor. if you believe taylor and karlie were ever together, these kinds of sustained moments should give you pause because they just wouldn’t happen if there was a breakup.
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-taylor making the noticeable public pivot towards “fictitious songwriting” with folklore and evermore.
this isn’t so much a proof as something that i think really sets her up well for the future. for me, trying to wean the public off of searching for connections between lyrics and her real life is a way of protecting what she has. plus it has allowed her to write about a greater variety of things.
-the red rose dresses
i’m sorry say what you will about twinning being abstract (yes sometimes it is) but, this kind of thing is just obvious. what’s more, we can deduce that taylor started working on that video before karlie started designing her dress, and karlie then designed hers, debuted it, and taylor then went and did the video without change. to a similar extent you could argue a similar pattern with the yellow dresses in 2019 (elle cover/off-white runway) and the orange thing (yntcd/carolina herrera vogue cover/adidas/match.com) that went into 2020. there’s a pattern of one of them debuting a look, the other puts out a similar look, then it gets revealed the other was working on it earlier, etc… plenty of opportunities to course correct these bold primary color twinning moments if they didn’t want anything to do with one another.
-taylor continuing to wear the vsfs ring (which is undeniably a kaylor bat signal)
on significant days such as kissgate anniversary in 2019, while accepting an award in 2021, and at her birthday party just this month. honestly i could write a dissertation on other jewelry things (karlie wearing the cartier necklace through the pandemic onset and her pregnancy, the alison lou of it all… or the awe le duo necklace lolol, but the angel wing ring takes the cake)
moreover, it’s just all this and every other thing, in aggregate. they’ve both maintained my attention!
Did anyone else think it was weird that Karlie was asked about what's in her bag and started talking about suitcases instead? Weren't we just talking about the suitcase in the WTNY Taymoji pack? And how WTNY was a love story hidden in a song about NY? It's funny because it's a suitcase Taymoji but Taylor actually sings "bags", not "suitcases". Maybe this was Karlie's way of confirming that anon was right, and the "we" and "our" in the song are Kaylor. I always thought it was a cute take!
@9w1ft is queen of Taymojis! Love that pack too. We were just talking about it!
I am now convinced that this part of the Apple Music interview was an Easter egg 🐣🐥
My theory: 6 months from December 15, 2020 Taylor is going to drop Long Live and maybe a hint for the Speak Now album rerelease.
Evidence in support: She said “everything is made out of confetti” and touched her face
Connected reference: we know from Taylor’s diary of song interview with NYT that she did this exact hand gesture when asked about the importance of a bridge
Evidence continued: After Taylor gives the signal, Zane gets tripped up and needed to read the prompt given to him by Taylor’s team to ask about august.
We know from the Long Pond sessions during the discussion of august that taylor said she had that “meet me behind the mall” line written down in her phone “years ago”. (It is at the very end of the discussion before they cut to the performance).
When Zane asked the question he pointed to the LPSS to ask about the “meet me behind the mall” line and in response Taylor said she had the line for “like 6 months probably.”
Now coming back to the confetti set up line:
The bridge of Long Live says:
In conclusion
I believe Taylor is dropping Long Live and maybe the hint for speak now’s release date on June 15th.
"My heart had been frozen, deep blue but you painted me golden..."
"A RED rose grew up out of iced frozen ground with no one around to tweet it."
"About a girl who was frozen in time"
"I'm setting off... it's time to go... but not without my muse..."
Y'all...
👀
right where you left me, Taylor Swift ♡︎
champagne problems
The definition of “champagne problems” is that this expression is used to refer to a problem that’s insignificant… worthless, compared to so many other worse situations (such as world hunger, wars, a pandemic).
My view of this song is that Taylor used problems she experienced involving marriages that, at first, seemed to have ended her world. But even though they were troubled moments, she realized after a while that they were not so bad compared to so many other problems in life.
The song portrays 3 times that Taylor was personally involved in thing relative to weddings. 1) The wedding blow that KK had to participate in (white letters); 2) Once Tay refused a marriage proposal (red letters); 3) Confirmation that Taylor and Karlie are married (yellow letters).
That’s what happened after Karlie told Taylor personally about the marriage maneuver. What is obvious, at first, must have triggered a HUGE fight between them.
This is Taylor’s reaction after the news. She seems to have been shocked and then they fought. Tay returned her engagement/wedding ring to Kar. And apparently, after KK left for some other home their, when Tay was calmer, she seems to have realized that she wasn’t the only one who was suffering from what was going to happen, and Taylor kind of regretted having “dropped” Karlie’s hand at a time that must have been one of the most distressing in her life (can you imagine how terrifying it must have been for her? Probably KK must have been “cornered” to participate in this scam and thought that because of this, she would lose her fiancee/wife). Taylor then realized that, in the grand scheme of things in the world, this was nothing more of a “champagne problems” compared to so many other things that they, or even people close to them, have already gone through in life.
Karlie told the family everything that happened, the future wedding coup that she would have to do, the fight with Taylor and nobody was happy with what would happen. I think Kaptain Kimby got drunk with sadness that the girls were in that situation.
Taylor is recalling an ex-girlfriend’s proposal that she once refused. And talking about the reaction of people close to this ex who commented that Tay’s refusal was nothing big. Just a silly “champagne problem”.
I don’t know if you capture that same vibe that I do, but the first times I heard this excerpt, it seems that the person who is proposing marriage is someone who is always surrounded by friends, someone who is the center of attention of the group, a person popular. It also seems that this ex-girlfriend took it for granted that Taylor would accept her engagement proposal. And after being refused, the girl wanted to know why Taylor had said “no”, but Tay did not know the reason for her negative response to this proposal. Taylor just knew it was “no”.
This passage is the most interesting and revealing to me.
“Midas touch” is an expression used to refer to someone who can make something prosper.
Chevy is short for Chevrolet, the famous car brand. Do you know what awards Chevrolet sponsored in 2017 and even had a commercial with Luke Bryan? Link
The 51st CMA Awards. The one in which KK participated and presented the music award of the year, which went to TS’s “Better Man”. That is, Taylor thinks she only won that prize, because KK was presenting and brought her good luck. And I believe that Tay put this moment here, to try to show us, when more or less this fight because the wedding blow happened. Sometime in 2017. OMG! That woman’s mind… 🤯;
Taylor reveals how her insecurities were on edge when she made a joke that she was crazy. Because after so many people said that to her, and other bad things, Tay believed them for a while (pre reputation period);
She also talks about how loyal and true their friends are, and that, from that moment on, they could no longer say “our friends” (feud’s public narrative was in progress) and soon these friends will be decorating the corridors (the friends will participate in the fake wedding to try to give credibility to the coup) that they’ve already crossed;
THEY’RE MARRIED!; 🥰♥️🥰
Taylor mentions the two stunts, and how she was never ready for that to happen, despite knowing that this blow was coming;
Once again, Tay remembers the refused marriage proposal, now justifying to the ex that sometimes, all you know is that you need to say “no”. Until you meet the right person who will make the proposal;
Taylor remembers again that she was called crazy for having refused the proposal and consoles her ex-girlfriend, saying that the ex will find the real thing, from experience.
Taylor reassures that there’s still hope for her ex to find the one, her true love. That special person that will be there to collect/mend your “pieces” when you’re broken. Just as Taylor found Karlie. And when that person arrives, Tay’s refusal will just be “champagne problems” in ex’s life.
In other words, the main theme of the song, talks about how, at certain times in our life, there’re situations that seem to be the worst thing that has ever happened to us, or that is going to happen to us, but then you realize that it was a “champagne problems” compared to so many other worst realities in the world, such as the pandemic we’re experiencing, for example. And Kaylor is still together.
👸🏼♥️☀️
P.S.: I only came to the conclusion that this disagreement occurred in 2017, after I tried to think of a time when Taylor was using a “flannel cure” + a moment of prosperity that occurred in November + and that Kar was present (since Midas is associated to gold, and the gold color is attributed to Karlie). It was then that I remembered the video of Tay watching Kar giving a CMA award for “Better Man”.
And despite this disagreement, because of the marriage scam, it seems to be, and maybe it’s classified by the girls as, the worst fight of their relationship, I think that they never ended it. I think they probably fought for a few days. But they didn’t go to the extreme of finishing their relationship.
As soon as I started peeking at the fandom in 2014, at times, some Kaylor blogs would comment more frequently on questions regarding Taylor’s possible ex girlfriends, or direct people to blogs that specifically talked about the subject or a certain “ship”. I confess that I was never interested in knowing about the subject and, therefore, I never entered these blogs to learn more.
So, about the identity of the ex-girlfriend who had her marriage proposal rejected by Taylor, I believe it’s Dianna Agron.
Because someone commented to me about it once (in person), and I remember reading it a few times, on a kaylor blog, that the Swiftgrons (is that how you write it?) believed that after many comings and goings in their troubled relationship (apparently toxic), and full of betrayals by Dianna (I’m not sure about that), at a time when they were separated, Dianna in a final attempt of Taylor getting back with her, proposed to Tay. Which of course, now seems to have been confirmed that such an event actually happened through the letters of “champagne problems”, and Taylor refused DA’s proposal. As I said before, I’m not sure if this is true or not, because I never tried to confirm what I heard and read a few times. But perhaps someone who knows more aboutthis whether this can confirm if my assumption is real or not, in the comments.
may 3rd 2016: taylor “”“"meets”“”“ buzz cut joe, falls for his ”“”“"gorgeous”“”“ face instantly, only to dance w / tom hiddleston - all while having a boyfriend
june 1st 2016: tayvin ENDS and the heavens open up on this glorious day!!!!
june 15th 2016: taylor and tom snog oh so privately on the beach. thus implying the start of their relationship. (despite being secretly in love w/ joe all along i guess??)
all summer long the two fly around the world together. totally a love that’s a “secret im hoping dreaming dying to keep”. joe is apparently her friend throughout all of this - emotional cheating, anyone????
august 3rd 2016: karlie’s 24th birthday
she posts a picture of taylor wearing this outfit:
and later on an “”“unkown”“”“ date, taylor just happens to be recording the back up vocals (implying the vocals are almost done, and thus implying taylor was trying to finish up a demo for SOME REASON on THIS date) wearing the same outfit:
but wait you say: ISN’T SHE STILL WITH TOM????
you right fam. which leaves three choices:
the song is for tom - despite dumping him a month later and having absolutely NO secrecy to hope and dream and die to keep about the relationship, and having met three months ago not “a few weeks ago”
the song is for joe - while she’s with tom. um cheater cheater pumpkin eater miss swift!!!!! do we really want to believe this is the option over her having a beard???
the song (’s demo) is a birthday present for miss kloss
september 7th 2016: hiddlestunt ends. shouldve known she’d be the first to leave!
september 17th 2016: taylor is spotted in nashville wearing this outfit:
which we later see on an “”“"unknown”“”“ date during what sounds like the final production of komh:
(she is wearing a sweater over the shirt, same hat, hair, and makeup doe!!!!!)
sure her and joe could have been ”“”“secretly seeing”“”“ each other romantically a mere ten days after her last relationship ended. sure she decided he was the king of her heart a mere ten days or less into the relationship. or she was cheating long before.
but!!!!!
“we met a few weeks ago”
the met gala was four months and two weeks ago. um. not really a few weeks. (this also seems the most likely as dress says “flashback when you met me / your buzzcut my hair bleached”)
OR if they met on october 12th 2016:
which implies the song to have been written after late november of 2016 (“i recall late november”) which would place their meeting at “a few weeks ago”
OR
implies their meeting was september 28th 2016 (“do you remember the 28th night of september”), widely assumed to be their anniversary, and would place the writing of the song to be in october/november 2016…..(both options which would require us to ignore the meeting lyrics in dress)