Wei Ying Didn't 'break' Jiang Yanli's Engagement To Jin Zixuan. Their Fathers Did, And No, It Wasn't

Wei Ying didn't 'break' Jiang Yanli's engagement to Jin Zixuan. Their fathers did, and no, it wasn't because Wei Ying started a fight with Jin Zixuan. It was because he brought to the surface the truth, which was the clear contempt Jin Zixuan had at the idea of being trapped in a marriage with Yanli. Jiang Fengmian broke it because he realized that Wei Ying was right. He couldn't let his daughter marry someone who obviously didn't want her and more importantly might fail to protect her the way a husband should especially since as a woman in ancient china, the person 'responsible' for her would be her husband and her husbands family. He knows what it's like to have constant internal conflict with your partner, and he didn't want Yanli to face that with her own.

Not to mention, it was only through the break of the engagement, and Yanli ceasing her acts of affection during the sunshot campaign did Jin Zixuan finally take notice of her.

The only person person who blamed Wei Ying was Madam Yu Ziyuan because of her prominent and unfair hatred towards Wei Ying. Just like the way she blamed him for the Wens attacking the Jiangs when no, the blame of that attack lies solely on the Wens. Blaming a kids actions as being the cause of inciting conflict is Dictatorship 101. It didn't matter what the Jiangs did. The Wens would have attacked them regardless, especially since Madam Yu refused to lower herself the way the Wens wanted her to. The way Wang Lingjiao was trying to. Blaming Wei Ying for the Jiang Massacre would be like blaming the destruction of Gusu by the Wens on Lan Zhan for trying to protect the library. The only ones to be blamed for all the destruction are the Wens. No one else.

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3 months ago

It makes me sad that people still don’t know what Mikey’s ‘thing’ is.

I was watching Tales and they flat out have someone asks what his thing is if Leo is the Leader, Raph is the tough one and Donnie is the smart one.

I see people asking to this day what his role on the team is.

I remember a review when Rise came out asking if all the characters are funny party dudes, what makes Mikey stand out?

It drives me cuckoo with a side of bananas.

Yes,Mikey is the Goof off, yes he’s the jokester, yes he’s the chill one but he’s so so much more than that.

Across every iteration of Tmnt, there has always been a major trait unique to Mikey.

His heart!

Mikey is the HEART.

It Makes Me Sad That People Still Don’t Know What Mikey’s ‘thing’ Is.

The most empathetic of the brothers,

It Makes Me Sad That People Still Don’t Know What Mikey’s ‘thing’ Is.

the most emotionally intelligent.

It Makes Me Sad That People Still Don’t Know What Mikey’s ‘thing’ Is.

The one always willing to reach out and help someone

It Makes Me Sad That People Still Don’t Know What Mikey’s ‘thing’ Is.

Even if he has to go against his own FATHER!

It Makes Me Sad That People Still Don’t Know What Mikey’s ‘thing’ Is.

The sunshine in the dark!

It Makes Me Sad That People Still Don’t Know What Mikey’s ‘thing’ Is.

The emotional center!

It Makes Me Sad That People Still Don’t Know What Mikey’s ‘thing’ Is.

HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS! HOW IS THIS NOT THE MOST OBVIOUS THING EVER?!

3 months ago

personally i do think julian bashir is trans, but not in a way that sublimates his genetic alterations into a trans allegory. i think he's disabled and trans at the same time, but i think his rebellion against his parents--the symbolic death of his old self with the name change--that's not about gender, for him, at all.

it's about the incredible violation of autonomy he experienced as a disabled person under the knife of a eugenicist society. it's about the need to reclaim some, any, of the agency that was so completely stolen from him by his parents.

it's about discovering that his entire self was deconstructed and reconstructed, without his knowledge or consent, for the express purpose of being less of a burden on his parents.

because let's not forget that the death of julian's old self was not his decision. it was his parents who killed the old self and created a new one.

let's not forget that human society in star trek is still recovering from the eugenics wars--that just because it's post-scarcity doesn't mean it's a utopia.

let's not forget the multiple episodes where bashir is forced to confront the fact that his "success story" is truthfully a gross reminder of how deeply his society (and his family) hates disabled people, not only shown in how they tried to fix him, but also in the fact that the process so rarely works as intended, yet is still done anyway--and the failures and the ones too far gone to save are locked away! with no connection to general society, and only the bare minimum provision for their physical needs, with no privacy and no autonomy!

and let's not forget that julian sees these people and is torn between the empathy he has for them, and his urge to fix them. and he goes through with this urge on Sarina, "fixing" her to conform to his idea of what she ought to be, treating her as a problem to be solved, objectifying her via "my ideal woman was trapped in this disabled body/mind and i saved her," thus continuing the cycle of violence, because even he can't conceive of a world where the disabled do not need to be fixed. where the violence done to him was wrong. fuck man

5 months ago

I'd love a sword! I feel like I'd be a saber person tho more offense than defense

I can't believe their are genuinely ppl who think wwx was to blame for any of the misfortunes that happened in the book or call him arrogant, lazy etc like.....? Did we read the same book😭😭

Or also insult lwj etc for similar reasons!

The mdzs fandom secretly is the cultivation world I am sure of it.


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2 months ago

Ik their are a bunch of arguments abt mdzs fans lacking media literacy (which I get why) and this especially is a very strong argument about it, but to me honestly, I feel like alot of these misconceptions stem more from a lack of knowledge about history, like if you knew any surface level info about how these societies would work irl you'd understand that the sect leaders had NO competition, especially in the world of mdzs where its already been confirmed that so long as the major power isn't attacking them specifically, than they're just going to turn a blind eye to it.

the myth of helplessness and the “hands-tied” rhetoric for authority figures in mdzs

i’m pretty sure every one of us has seen this notion echoed around for atleast one of the clan/sect leaders when it came to their compliance and/or active participation in the wen remnants’ genocide as well as their prior lack of help/refuge for the wen remnants once wei wuxian had rescued them. while this goes beyond just the way the cultivation world’s leaders handled the aftermath of the sunshot campaign (namely, their lackadaisical approach to helping civilians, exploiting those weaker than them, etc.), i’ll start with the genocide because that’s the crux of it all. that’s the nail in the coffin, that’s the biggest proof of why i feel so fucking angry whenever i see this sentiment of excusing/justifying/or even explaining why the sect leaders did what they did.

and like most skewed interpretations of mdzs (and i don’t mean this in a haughty superior way of only MY way of reading the text being THE right way but i feel like this is something we all have noticed after traversing the fandom waters for a while), this too begins with jiang cheng.

now, let me clear: jiang cheng, in full sobriety and clarity of thought, led the siege of the burial mounds to kill a group of innocent people, which included elderly women and men and a child. you would think this should be obvious but i’ll retierate: NOTHING justifies this, nothing excuses this. the same applies to every single sect leader and sect affiliated member who went for the siege that day and participated in the killings, whether directly or indirectly. this isn’t a nuanced situation and i personally feel that a discussion that begins with the premise of muddying the culpability of the people involved in the genocide shouldn’t even be entertained because the reasons do not matter. they just don’t. it doesn’t matter that nie mingjue’s personal philosophy stemming from his upbringing and loss gave him a narrowminded view of the “wen-dogs”. it doesn’t matter that jiang cheng was sunken in grief and rage after losing his sister. it doesn’t matter that the lans were convinced of wei wuxian’s deviousness and found it paramount to put an end to him and his affialites. it doesn’t matter that some were operating on half the information because when you march into the temporary residence of your supposed foes and kill them all in cold-blood despite them being unarmed and untrained—the weight of ensuring that your violence has a meaning, a justification is on YOU! if you’re committing this act, you have to make sure you aren’t being led blindly by manipulating rumors and ideals.

even before the genocide, before the nightless city massacre, before the qiongqi path ambush—the way i’ve seen handwaving of jiang cheng’s mindset regarding the wens is a little baffling. “he had the burden of being a sect leader” “he had to protect his clan, his hands were tied!” jiang cheng wielding power and authority are often repackaged as baggage that his poor self is so tragically saddled with. it genuinely puzzles the shit out of me. have we all forgotten about “with great power comes great responsibility”?? jiang cheng’s responsibility as a cultivation sect leader goes beyond just the immediate thought about his sect and towards the cultivation world as a whole and how injustice was taking place by a fellow prominent clan. we know this is extremely important because the whole reason the sunshot campaign happened and why it came down to a war was because of prior negligence by the clans towards the congregation of power by the wens. to recognise the same methods now being employed by the jins was, infact, part of jiang cheng’s responsibility. just saving your own neck doesn’t work, when the larger picture is considered. besides, giving the wens the backing of the jiang clan would NOT have brought down instant doom upon the jiangs. that was the whole point. that was why jin guangshan felt it necessary to put ideas into his head and lead him to a path of hostility towards wei wuxian (which is still a choice jiang cheng made, mind).

also, while we’re at it, you’re telling me that the jiang clan rebuilt in part due to wei wuxian’s insane gravitational pull towards aspiring cultivators, would NOT have stood behind wei wuxian if jiang cheng had only tried? hell, i would go far as to say that some jiang disciples would have WANTED to join wei wuxian’s side. there was risk. there would be trouble. but that doesn’t mean jiang cheng had no option. the path of least resistance leads the crooked men, does it not? besides, being a leader is not about tucking tail and keeping your head down. it’s about making the difficult choices and yes, for jc, in this scenario, refusing to help the wens and wei wuxian was the easy choice.

also this whole myth about the sect leaders not being able to do anything because their clans would become targets is sort of antithetical to the whole premise of them being sect leaders in the first place. they’re the only ones who can do something with comparatively less risk to their person and those they’re “protecting” because they have the power of organisation. if the holders of authority cannot make decisive lines in the sand and push for change and resist, who can? the disciples or civilians would have an easier time opposing the clans individually or in groups, you think? they would have less to lose? (we already have an example in the form of mianmian; the waves had to be made from the top in this time-sensitive situation).

these fanon tropes originate from somewhere i know. it’s interesting to think of how these authority figures perceive their power as burdens, how the prince doesn’t want to become king but is forced into the role, how inheritances, even the ones that favour you, can feel like shackles around your neck.

but this kind of sympathetic view of the antagonists and the wrong-doers in mdzs leaves a bitter taste in my mouth because time and again, we have been shown how these sect leaders are blissfully happy to reap the fruits of their inherited power and generational wealth and are the ones most protected by the system. jiang cheng was perfectly fine being the sect leader by default and his grievance was moreso that wei wuxian wasn’t around to be his subordinate. the less that is said about jin guangshan the better. even lan xichen’s troubles didn’t come from him holding power but from his prolonged semi-wilful ignorance regarding jin guangyao. nie mingjue, while alive, used his influence to make his voice heard and condemned the wens because that was his unshakeable opinion on the matter.

now, this isn’t to say all the sect leaders were the same brand of callous and incompetent. yes, they had their problems. yes, their positions didn’t automatically make them immune to harm. but they were not the poor little burdened leaders with “pragmatic” point of views, trying to keep their boats afloat.

the ones with their hands tied were these: the lower classes in the pyramid. the ones who relied on the clans for shelter and food. the civilians whose requests for help were denied by the cultivation sects. the wen remnants who couldn’t do anything to save themselves. wen qing and wen ning. wei wuxian, whose every avenue of help was closed. mianmian. and even, imo, lan wangji.

there’s another similar notion towards wei wuxian that because he was a subordinate and because he has lesser social standing, he had more “freedom”. what ass-backwards logic is this, to be honest? when has having lesser social status, political power and monetary resources given a person more freedom? more freedom would mean that wei wuxian could do anything he wanted and go unquestioned. more freedom would mean that he would be able to practice the ghostly path without every second person accusing him of demonic activities. you know who had more freedom? the nie sect! their resentful energy dabbling went unquestioned because they had more freedom, they were protected by the reputation and might of their clan. nie mingjue’s hypocritical stance went unquestioned because he had freedom, precisely because he had more power. wei wuxian having a big personality, being flirtatious and not being a picture-perfect version of properness (he had good manners regardless) is not having more freedom. if he had that personality and no one accused him of being arrogant and if it wasn’t used against him as means to sully his reputation, then yes, that would be true freedom. this last part is probably redundant but hope the point of it was relayed. just because wei wuxian’s able to authentically be himself despite the backlash he receives for it does not make his social standing somehow a more advantageous position to be in compared to the literal leaders of the cultivation world.

in conclusion, the sect leaders did not have their hands tied by some inherent circumstance, their thrones of power were not ill-begotten curses they were trying to escape from but all the tying was done by them and their ropes which they gleefully tied around the necks of the wens to silence them forever. and if that sentence makes you uncomfortable, great. because that’s the reality of what these people did.


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2 months ago

You guys know those fics where canon!mdzs characters get somehow transported to alt universes? Well Let that happen to wangxian and Co, but make them trying to get back home the B plot, while the A plot is actually just modern!lsz explaining modern slang to them.

Mod!Lsz: And the word "goat" is actually just a fun way to call someone "Cool"

Lan "Avid enjoyer of linguistics" Wangji (totally calm): There. Is. No. Correlation.

Another point that must be made is that modern lsz loves romance novel, so while bored one of the juniors come across modern!lszs Copy of 2ha... (for plot convience they can understand modern chinese) let's just say it was not a fun conversation.


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3 months ago

HAPPY LAST DAY OF PRIDE MONTH

HAPPY LAST DAY OF PRIDE MONTH
3 months ago

"He killed 3000 ppl!" That's literally confirmed as false. 2nd of all everyone in nightless city literally grouped up there to watch an innocent women burn to death than spit on her ashes than team up to go kill her (knowingly) innocent family, everyone there was on there way to attack wwx but god forbid wwx fights back (and even than him fighting back was a last resort)

Fans who believe or try to frame what happened at nightless city as Wei Ying being the one in the wrong or even say his actions were unjustified boggles my mind because he didn't even start it!

He showed up and quietly listened to Jin Guangyao openly break his promise to Wen Qing and Wen Ning. Watches as he riles up the crowd into lusting for his and the Remnant's death, calls him out on it, tries to argue against their accusations with very legitimate points.

AND GETS SHOT.

If he wanted them all dead, he could have so very easily hidden himself in the shadows and played his flute. Condemning them to die before they could even lift a finger. But no, he showed up to TALK.

The clans were happy about him getting shot too until they realized they'd just made him angry.

Wei Ying didn't show up with the intention to fight. He didn't show up to seek revenge. He didn't show up with any desire to even cause harm. But that arrow and the way the clans reacted to it made it more than clear that talking wasn't going to persuade them to leave him and the Remnants alone. So he fought. Not for himself. But for the Remnants. His family.

And that was his fault? The people there that night KNEW what they were doing. They reaped what they sowed. They showed up with the intent to kill an innocent group of people who had done them no harm.

He had every right to lethally attack and defend himself against the people who were also lethally attacking him.

Framing the whole incident as Wei Ying being the one at fault is the PROPAGANDA that the clans created. Why are so many readers falling for it????


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7 months ago

Maybee...😈🥺

Maze runner band au except Newt has 7 evil exs and Thomas has to defeat them all so he can date Newt/J...... or am I?


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3 months ago

I agree with this except I feel like there places are in reverse.

Wwx= xiyan

And

Lwj=tianlung jun

And yes wwx would go crazy with tlj ndjdjx

is tianxi just. het wangxian.

edit: rather. Is wangxian just yaoi tianxi


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