Ninjago Movie: “Different POV” - I Cannot Feel

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the ending of season 1 is absolutely bizarre to me

Can we. Can we talk about. Ok consider. We all know about kids developing trust issues because of their parents. But I almost feel sometimes like Zane is the reverse? Like his dad raised him completely isolated in the middle of the woods and then erased his memory and left him completely vulnerable and alone. And we know from his behavior, especially in the first seasons, that Zane has a hard time adapting to people and grasping social boundaries, which already sucks for him but I feel like the implications of his upbringing go a lot deeper than that? I know I already made a post that was really similar to this but I'm on a slightly different track rn so hear me out

Like I feel like, intentionally or not, he made Zane COMPLETELY dependant on him in every conceivable aspect and then (by giving him straight up amnesia) he abandoned him without what little preparation he might have had to set him up for the outside world. And in doing that he simultaneously made it practically impossible for him to develop normal, constructive relationships with other people and also failed to give him to ability to discern when to trust people and when to be wary of their intentions.

So basically he put him in a position where he would be completely defenseless and wouldn't have the emotional or social maturity to protect himself from exploitation or abuse. It's super heavily implied (if not outright stated) that Zane was essentially homeless for however long he was wandering around before Wu found him, and it's like??? Can you imagine how traumatic that probably was all on its own? And if anything serious happened to him during this period there's a strong likelihood that he doesn't even realize it was wrong.

It'd be super interesting to have a clearer look into how he functioned pre-season one and the types of experiences he must have had. Plus I think it could serve to give some background to some of his behaviors and thought processes. Also I want to project my trauma on him as is my god-given right as an american

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My feelings which are always correct every time

Zane's detective LARPing in prime empire has the same vibe as crude generative ai, in that he's cramming in a ton of material to achieve a likeness to fictional detectives without taking into account how the specifics of the situation may render his emulation unwarranted and seemingly surface level.

Humans and more sophisticated ai models are a lot more shrewd when it comes to processing and selecting data for particular insights.

Do you think Zane learns like a human or like an ai?

To draw a human face, a human has to learn the proportions and proper usage of the drawing tools or materials, and even then it usually ends up somewhat stylised. An ai only has to look at many many images so it can produce a new image that most closely represents the references. A human cannot do that.

Maybe he has a mixture of both, maybe he can fluctuate between the two, I can't decide.

I do, however, like to imagine that if he did learn like an ai, he'd still go through the steps a human needs because they bring him comfort. Even though he can produce near-perfect results, he still makes himself go through the trial and error of human learning, he purposefully gets stuff wrong so he can feel improvement.

It can't be fun to be perfect, right?

Ninja's art skills from canon:

Kai

Nya

Cole

Zane

Jay's paintings from Farewell the Sea(I couldn't find good pictures of them)

Arin

Sora

Now we only need Lloyd,Wu,Pixal and Wyldfyre

When he’s a murderer>>>>

Zane gets called a mom friend because y'all love to woobify him a lot but honestly i think if you put him in charge of a child he would not know what to do with it. like he would take the responsibility seriously and keep the kid out of trouble but otherwise he would have no idea what to do. Zane babysitting activities consist of sitting quietly in a room and not leaving his line of sight until your guardians (or the other ninja) get back. And snacks if you get hungry but you're not allowed to help make them you have to sit there and watch

I do too, since Cyrus owns an entire server. Plus she was able to stall the Overlord's advances in the digiverse by writing a computer script on the fly, so I imagine she's well experienced like her creator.

ngl i picture pixal knowimg more abt the internet more than zane no elaboration

pleasepleaspleasepleaseplase watch my amv it took me like a year to make

A lot of people's issues with modern D&D would be immediately fixed if they accepted the game for what its rules actually say the game is trying to achieve (even though the rules are usually not vocal about it and you kind of have to divine that purpose).

Like, a lot of GMs seem to stress over making their games challenging enough but not too lethal because if the dreaded TPK happens or a character dies before fulfilling their personal arc then the narrative momentum of the game dies. But like:

Death is pretty much the only consequence of note in modern D&D. It might not be a fun consequence but without it you lose all tension

The fact that death is always on the table should be an indication that the game itself does not care about narrative continuity nor your characters' personal arcs.

Despite all the modern guardrails and mechanics like bonds and ideals that are supposed to add character death, D&D is ultimately a "some assholes go to die in a ditch" type of game. And that's okay. But playing it as a "I must preserve narrative continuity and make sure characters stay alive or else my plans are ruined" game means an uphill battle against the game itself.