would you change anything from tory’s introduction in season two to now in season 6? like her as a character and her depth as a whole? like what things would you take out or include?
one thing i’d like to mention is i wouldn’t have tory and sams rivalry to be about miguel. that was lazy and rushed. i’d probably have it start for another reason and built up to the school fight.
Hi, thank you for asking! This is a tough question. As I mentioned before I personally have almost no problems with the writing in the first two seasons. The set-up for rivalry between Tory and Sam at that beach party was pretty well executed in my opinion. Sam and Miguel's kiss seemed to be only the last straw that was added to already existing tension. But I agree that love triangles are a tired and uninspiring tool to create a rivalry.
My main problem is with season 6 mostly. And the changes I would like for Tory as a character would also imply changing the whole show’s trajectory. It means a lot has to change which I will not go into. But the short answer is: 1. I would like to see Tory actually interacting with her family and her mother specifically much earlier in the series. It would be cool to explore that part of Tory’s life.
2. I wish that “cheating” drama with Robby never happened. Cobra Kai writers love their love triangles. But what they actually have showed wasn't even a love triangle. It was a whole other situation that they won’t even acknowledge in the show itself.
3. I would like Tory to open up more and to have time for self-reflection. If she and Robby actually haven’t stopped interacting with each other in that gap between part 1 and 2 that would be great. I always find it weird how Cobra Kai and Miyagi-do students completely stop all communication the moment they join the opposing dojo. Even if they used to be best friends prior to the whole karate war. It is just unrealistic.
In general I would like to see Tory operate under less dire circumstances that way maybe changes in her personality could happen more naturally.
S04E01: Chapter One “The Hellfire Club” S04E09: Chapter Nine “The Piggyback”
maddie will never be able to have any pictures with wally, charley and rhonda, all she’ll have of them is their yearbook pictures
People keep using the word "cheating" for the Robby/Tory/Zara storyline... And um... When someone is that drunk to not remember anything, and other person is not... I don't think the right word is "cheating".
Earlier in the season xavier wasn't able to see Maddie's dad - he went looking for him after he was revived and didnt find him. So now xavier can see him again and Simon can see at least mr Martin and janet as well (it seems unlikely hes just straight up dead). So to me it looks like the ghosts running through their scars did create that energy to weaken the barrier as predicted, and for some reason that had an effect not just on the school, but on the WHOLE afterlife. Mr. Martin thinks theres something special about the school specifically and it seems to me like it has a broader connection to the afterlife as a whole, its maybe a source in some sense?
-surf trip
-us against the universe
-the parental angst
-giving the victim a chance at a good life?
-I’m still in shock.
-why give us any of this???? Why even bother with Jiara for this?
Wally came up with this, makes us do it at every reunion.
as always, justice for tory and robby
daniel and johnny didn't even try to talk to tory. they argue about how the other's stance regarding her fighting for captaincy made her go back to kreese but if only they could recognize that it was really because they never made any effort with her before then. if they made even one attempt to talk to her and tory clearly didn't want to hear it then they wouldn't look like they still just didn't gaf. it wouldn't look like they cared more about her allegiance as a fighter than her well-being as a young girl grieving the loss of her mother and who chose a maniac over them because he actually paid attention to her.
but there's really no hope for johnny being there for tory when he can't even do it for his own son. where's this support for robby that you speak of, johnny. we've been waiting. robby understandably doesn't have his head in the game because of tory and miguel has a right to be pissed. but miguel had to be told by johnny that robby has no other future prospects for him to stop trying to maliciously shame robby into handing over captaincy. which makes miguel seem insincere when he tells robby that he believes in him as their leader.
besides the fact that their broken relationship is still mending, i think part of the reason why johnny has such a hard time connecting with robby is because robby has always been an outcast (applies to tory as well). the dynamics johnny's character type has with underdogs, daniel + most of their students, are pretty straightforward. johnny and miguel have a natural back and forth with each other, but with robby it's more complex, and johnny doesn't do well with complexity. so unless johnny makes the effort to really try and understand him robby will always feel 2nd to miguel. unfortunately with johnny's track record it's not looking good
Cobra Kai Dynamics: Robby Keene and Tory Nichols
It would be nice to stand on that podium. Side by side for the entire world to see. Let’s make a deal. No matter what, we stick together, and we win the Sekai Taikai. Just you and me.
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