That look in Tobey's eyes when he's holding Tom's Peter back from killing Norman. He didn't have to say a single word. They both just knew. That look is haunting me it won't leave my mind.
It was so, so important how they did that moment - how Tobey didn't just snatch the hoverboard out of Tom's hands with a web - but rather he could look him in the eyes, look his younger self in the eyes, and stop him from making the same choice that he did. Not just physically stop him but to make him understand, and let him make the choice to let go himself, instead of making it for him.
I love how they really framed Tobey's as the oldest and the wisest. He's had all this time to look back on that choice he made. All this time to think about the things he would have done differently. All this time thinking if he had just known, wishing he could just go back in time and talk to himself, to stop himself. He never thought that one day he would actually get that chance.
That look. That look that won't leave my mind. That look that said you know you shouldn't do this. You know May wouldn't want you to do this. I know the pain it will cause you. I've felt it. I feel it every day. I don't want you to go through what I did. I don't want you to make the same mistake I did. I don't want you to feel the pain that I do. Please. I love you. Please. It didn't help.
And Tom's Peter listens. He makes the choice Tobey's couldn't. His younger self didn't have him to offer him his strength and compassion and wisdom and perspective. Tobey's Peter can never go back in time and save himself, but at least he could save this version of himself. He can go on living, and the pain will fade more and more every day. Whenever he looks back on his younger self at least he'll know, without a doubt, that in another world, there's a version of him that he was able to help. Who didn't make that choice.
(And then Tom's Peter could then do something else that Tobey's couldn't, that being curing Norman, which he said he's been thinking about for years. Even though he was dead he still wished he could go back and help him, and now he was finally able to give him a second chance.)
(And the fact that Tobey says in the very next scene after May dies that ever since he got here he's been trying to find Peter because he feels he needs his help. I know he probably got there earlier but part of me thinks he got there right after or when May died, and he goes through the portal a few hours later. Yes Peter needed him because of the villains but the real reason he needed him was because of May's death and how he was grieving - and how this universe's Peter was going to make the same decision he did if he didn't find him and help him.)
And Andrew. I saw someone else say that he's still grieving Gwen, which is so true. From his conversation with Tobey it sounds like he really just sunk himself entirely into his work as Spiderman in order to, maybe not so much cope but just keep himself occupied to block out the grief.
He thinks about her every day. Sees her falling. Feels the weight of her in his arms again and again and again.
And when MJ fell, every fiber of his being was screaming not again. Not again. Not again.
In that moment, he just saw Gwen. Like he does every day. Only this time it was all too real.
And this time it was different. MJ's Peter couldn't get to her, just like he couldn't get to Gwen. This time he was here. This time he could do something about it. This time there was someone who could spare Peter the pain he lives with every moment of his life.
Maybe when he caught her, for just a split second, it felt like he caught Gwen. He had relived the most horrible moment of his life again. That moment that lived in his mind, that was always there underneath everything else, burning just a little but without end. Then somehow, this time, it ended differently.
The worst thing that happened to Andrew's Peter was a tragedy, but the worst thing that happened to Tobey's was a choice. They're both things that they can never change, but wish they could. They're both things they were able to spare this young version of themselves from. This boy who's full of so much potential and been through so much already. This boy who needed them. This boy who is them.
Obviously this whole movie was about second chances and compassion. You can always give second chances to people, no matter what they've done. You can always start over with them. Everyone except for yourself. You will always know what you've been through and what you've done. And you can be compassionate with yourself, but you can never truly start over. We can never get second chances in life - we can only have them in the eyes of others.
I wish I could go back in time and be there for my younger self. I wish I could help them and guide them. I wish I could protect them. I wish I could save them. I think about it all the time. I think a lot of us do. But in the real world we can't save our younger selves from pain.
Tobey and Andrew were able to fulfill the impossible dream of giving yourself a second chance. Of saving yourself.
I think what this movie was saying was that, as much as we wish we could, we can't start over. You can't give second chances to yourself so that's why it's all the more important that you give them to others - because if we could give ourselves even one moment of the past that could be changed, we would all do it in a heartbeat.
let’s see how many transphobics we can weed out
Batman is absolutely awful at dealing with emotions and feelings. Luckily, Dick is there to pick up the emotional slack and be the support system that all his siblings need!
Robin (1993) #156
Dick was about to head out the door, but drops everything when Tim says he needs to talk (and Tim was struggling with suicidal thoughts in this comic so it is even more important that he has someone to talk to).
Nightwing (1996) #25
And Tim feels comfortable coming to Dick with tough topics.
Batman: Family #7
Even though Dick isn’t as close to Cass at this point, he makes sure that she knows he’s there for her during a tough time.
Birds of Prey (1999) #8
And he is there for Barbara and is understanding when she talks about her need for revenge after the injury that resulted in her being put in a wheelchair.
Batman #33
While all the others are shocked by Damian’s emotional reaction, Dick is reassuring and comforting (indicating to me that this isn’t the first time he’s comforted Damian in this way). Dick is one of the few people who treats Damian like the child he is.
Batman #416
He even offers support to Jason (which may surprise some people), though he initially did not approve of Jason being Robin.
Batman and Nightwing #23
And he does the same thing for Batman. This moment in particular is heartbreaking to me, because Dick completely neglects his own feelings about Damian’s death to support Bruce.
Dick is always encouraging communication and making sure everyone stays connected. He is so important to the Bat family, the glue that keeps them together. He’s just always got everyone’s back. Dick Grayson actual therapist everyone.
so the academy is reviewing whether or not to remove Will Smith’s award and here are some interesting tweets about that :)
You are not stupid. You are not ugly. You are not worthless. You are not weak. You are not a burden. Your mental illness is lying to you.
bernard loves taking care of tim after his missions of saving gotham. he knows that tim’s always so stubborn in a self preservation type of deal, but he doesn’t care. if he can’t help him out in the field, he can help him at home.
bernard assists by first helping tim shed off his robin suit. he’s careful with his movements, not wanting to jostle the fragile thing beneath his fingertips. he was the last person to ever hurt him, and he didn’t want to ever be one of those people. so he takes his time helping him out of his clothes, allowing tim the space to say no at any moment.
he doesn’t.
so bernard slowly guides tim to the bathroom, cleaning his dirt covered hair with gentle fingers before washing off all the dried blood and debris that caught onto his achy skin. he loves how thorough he is, almost passing out in the tub before being softly shaken so he could keep his eyes open.
tim’s embarrassed to be treated so gently, unlike the roughness of the outside world, but he doesn’t vocalize it because he likes it. he likes being taken care of more than anything and he knows he shouldn’t get attached, but he can’t help it.
and after treating him like he was the most precious treasure on earth, bernard helps tim out of the bath and change into pajamas. tim requests wearing bernard’s clothes because it would make him feel safer, and bernard agrees happily.
but before they could sleep, tim needed to get bandaged up. bernard fished out his first aid kit that he bought immediately after finding out his boyfriend was robin and began to carefully wrap every scratch, cut, and bruise that needed to be compressed. he’s so attentive to what hurt and what didn’t, how each bandage was wrapped tight so there wasn’t a risk of infection or how the gauzes were placed so accurately that it caused a flare up in him.
tim feels like he’s gonna cry.
not because he hates this— oh no, far from it. it’s so intimate and sweet that it’s foreign to him. he’s never had anyone handle him with such kindness before. sure, there was bruce, but bruce wasn’t bernard. no one was.
he notices his choked up expression (of course he does, bernard notices everything) and he placed a gentle kiss as a reminder that he was still there and that he didn’t think any less of him for coming home half dead nearly every week.
after the bandages were done, bernard takes tim into his bed and lays him down. he intended to leave so he could sleep but he felt a gentle clutch at his wrist and a soft sob like voice rip through the air.
“please. stay.”
and how could bernard deny a request like that? he just nods, pressing a benign kiss to tim’s forehead to ensure that he’d stay. sliding into the place next to him, he doesn’t comment about the way tim immediately clings to him and keeps a tight grip on his shirt, almost acting as a lifeline of sorts.
he needs bernard to stay grounded.
and bernard needs him to stay alive.
vine legends just randomly popping up on tiktok gets me every time
Damian Wayne: (about Jon Kent) He’s flying! He’s really flying! Father, look, he’s-!
Bruce Wayne: [smiles smugly]
Damian Wayne: … I mean, big deal, he’s flying.
🎈Happy Birthday Jason!!🎉
This is me ranking the meanest things that Damian has ever said to Bruce
1. “You were easier to look up to when you weren’t around.”
Batman and Robin vol 2 #1
I love when Damian reminds Bruce that he’s a disappointment. It took the other batkids years to realize that but Damian knew it from the beginning and he will never let him forget it. 9/10
2. “So that explains why Astrid Arkham sees me as a curse hanging over Gotham.” “Haven’t we all at some point?”
Detective Comics (2016) #1004
He’s 100% correct but he’s not being as mean as he could be. Bruce’s feelings were definitely not hurt so it wasn’t a proper roasting. But it’s super fucking funny, and I’m obsessed with the fact that Damian interrupted this serious moment to joke about how everyone hates his dad. 7/10
3. “You know my name! Grandfather was right, you truly are the world’s greatest detective.”
The Shadow/Batman #1
Calling Bruce stupid is very classic Damian. I appreciate that he keeps finding new and creative ways to say it. However I have to take off points because that’s not the actual Bruce he’s insulting, just a dollotron. 5/10
4. “Watch yourself old man. You may be better with a bicycle but I’m your superior at everything else.”
Batman Black and White #5
This one absolutely took me out when I first read it. The “watch it old man” alone would be enough for me to put it on this list, but pairing that with Damian saying he’s better than Bruce in nearly every way makes this perfect. Bruce’s feelings probably weren’t hurt but he definitely called Dick later to complain about Damian’s lack of respect. 10/10
5. “So you’ve learned your long-lost father is a world class psycho... join the club...”
Teen Titans (2016) #11
He’s not talking to Bruce in this one but this is still an impeccable roast. Calling Bruce a psycho AND telling his teammate that they ain’t special?? He’s killing two birds with one stone. I’m taking off points because this panel came from Teen Titans (2016) and that version of Damian is not valid. 6/10
6. “Father, if this is it, I want to tell you something. I... I need you to know... I definitely would have been the best Batman.”
Dark Nights: Death Metal #7
Absolutely iconic. Damian is facing certain death and instead of telling his father that he loves him like Bruce was probably expecting, he decided to remind him that he could have been a way better Batman if he was given the chance. Damian is going to die doing what he loves most: antagonizing Bruce. 12/10
7. “Silence.”
Super Sons #10
After all the times Bruce has told him to shut up, Damian finally pulled an Uno reverse card on him, and it’s all Bruce’s fault. Even he can recognize that. 5/10
8. “And I sometimes feel like I’m listening to a raging, controlling madman.”
Batman: Pennyworth RIP
I admire Damian’s audacity to bring up all of Bruce’s faults whenever they fight. And he’s always correct. I also love how big Bruce’s hand is compared to his face. It reminds me that Bruce is getting verbally demolished by a kid who still needs a booster seat. 8/10
9. “But we’re going to talk about these orphanages. It’s a bit disconcerting that you own whole buildings full of potential backup Robins.”
Detective Comics (2016) #1017
Even if this was a joke, I know some tiny part of Damian actually believes this. He lives in constant fear of getting another sibling. I’m deducting some points because this is one of the most popular and overused Batman jokes ever. We all know he collects orphans. 4/10
10. “I don’t know why you bothered to come back from the dead. We were fine without you.”
Batman Incorporated (2012) #1
We’re finishing the list off strong with perhaps the meanest thing Damian has ever said to Bruce. He went for the throat with this one. His father just came back to life and he’s already decided he doesn’t like that bitch. I just KNOW Bruce cried himself to sleep that night. 1000/10