If I See One More Person Say That C!dream Was Self Harming For Attention I Am Going To Go Apeshit

i propose that no one is allowed to have an opinion on pandoras vault unless they’ve done some reading on prison abolition/reform

Stay up till 5am for the mcc or wake up at 5am for the mcc, that is the question

currently wondering what the longest time c!dream went without human contact was

The removal of all positive traits from c!dream is harmful to abuse survivors.

Abusers are not terrible 100% of the time. Many are leading community members, or known for their charisma and friendliness.

It is an incredibly common narrative that people doubt that they were actually abused, as the perpetrator displayed kindness and positive traits, to both their victims and other people.

When abuse victims do come forward, their experiences are often denied by people who had a good experience with the abuser.

Allowing c!dream not only makes for a more compelling narrative and character, but it also makes it easier for people to identify abusers.

Maybe you still think c!dream is evil, and that’s okay. But evil has a human face.

What if:

c!dream remembers how almost the entire server watched as he lost two canon lives; and that no one said anything to stop him being murdered.

c!dream has recurring nightmares where the server watches again, but this time it’s as c!quackity takes his sanity.

C!dream becomes so sure that there are other people in the cell when c!quackity visits him. That the people he once called friends are watching him be tortured. Sometimes he sees them out of the corner of his eye, other times he can only feel them watching. Sometimes he begs for their help, pleads with the mirages his mind has conjured. C!quackity will occasionally indulge these hallucinations, pretend to interact with them, make c!dream detail exactly who he’s seeing. Other times he taunts c!dream with the knowledge of his tenuous grasp on reality, question the logic of certain peoples presence, and do anything he can to remind c!dream that he’s alone, that he only has c!quackity now.

C!dream tells c!techno how many witnesses there had been to his torture. C!techno tells him it wasn’t real, that no one could have watched his suffering and stood idly by. C!dream is so grateful, he’d been so confused when everyone, even his best friends, had done nothing as they watched him be murdered. But it hadn’t been real... right?

"im sorry to tell you but this is unfortunately fetish art :( " you’re a coward and a fool. tell me what about eroticism makes it lose value as a piece of art. tell me in what way is lust a less worthy feeling to be depicted in art than anger or joy or sadness or any other human emotion. why did you like it before and why do you not like it now? what changed? why does it upset you? what makes it bad now, what makes it gross, what makes it wrong? do you reject what you dont understand? do you let your gut reaction dictate what you deem bad? what you deem immoral? whats allowed to exist and what isnt?

C!dream antis often end up weirdly pro c!dream??? If he truly is a ‘monster incapable of empathy’ I find him less responsible. Whereas if he cared about people, understood their feelings, and hurt them regardless? That makes his actions so much worse.

Top tip- avoid anyone who calls c!dream a psychopath.

Was c!dream told about this chance of release for good behaviour that c!sapnap mentioned?

It’s really fun being in a fandom who can’t decide what words mean. Apologist? Sympathiser? NO ONE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS ON THE DEFINITION OF THESE WORDS! I see them completely swap meaning regularly- you can no longer just use the term, you also have to explain your interpretation of it.