okay so i am genuinely confused as to why we are acting like jason was not angry as robin i mean a big part of his whole character was that he had a strong sense of justice and sometimes went too far joker himself said he was more brutal than the first robin don’t get me wrong he was a sweet kid but taking out the fact that he was still too violent sometimes takes a lot out of his character
Tbh I think it’s a fandom thing
Jason was angry as Robin
But he wasn’t the Angry Robin(tm)
It’s like how people went “oh dick isn’t this dumb himbo who needs Jason to come save him” so then everyone went “he is filled with rage and wants to /can murder everyone with ease he will feel no guilt”
Like people showed evidence that Jason wasn’t this rage filled murderous loser as Robin. Therefore he’s a sweetie pie who never did anything wrong ever.
(However let’s be so real if we are making quick shitposts, then yeah if you wanna make Jason more complicated/ highlight the extreme change he goes through from Robin to redhood it’s just easier to make him the sweetie-pie Robin)
++ THO it’s not all fandoms fault
Jason’s Robin run is arguably the one that goes through the most extreme changes
The flying Todd’s? Where he was diet Grayson
To the tires
To the orphanage to the tires
And so on
So it’s hard to piece together.
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I think it’s also to do with their relationships to Bruce
-Tim and Dick both chafed under the Bats control and argued with him about it.
- Dicks favorite hobby seems to be calling Bruce out on his shit in various loud and dramatic ways
-tim had the YJ and dick had the titans
-Jason especially post death is more used as this tragic rough around the edges sweetie who disobeys once and gets blown up for his troubles
Anyway that’s my 2 cents I could be entirely wrong here I just go here lol
Bane holding Dick dressed as Batman: I promise I will break your back as well
Bane attempts to snap dicks spine
Dick: *bends*
Bane: *straightens Dick back and tries to snap dicks spine over his knee*
Dick ‘I wanted to be a contortionist in the circus’ Grayson: bends to accommodate shape of knee
Bane: wut
Dick: … I’m Batman?
Bane: …
Dick: idk man it seemed appropriate for the moment
Bane:….
Plz my friends actually stopped finding me annoying since I can talk about something other than Dick Grayson
Let me get it out
bring back tumblr ask culture let me. bother you with questions and statements
“Tim Drake never got enough recognition in Gotham.”
ARE YOU JOKING???
HES THEIR LIL GUY???
There isn’t one hero from the main Batfamily who doesn’t canonically like tim???
Hell even Jason think Tim is “the best of us” (much to my chagrin, the beef between the two middle children is always so iconic to me) and JASON HAS TRIED TO KILL HIM
Like Jason?? If it was Jason??? Who never got enough respect I’d get it?? Not entirely bc in recent comics (Nightwing -specifically the 2021 annual for one instance but honestly anytime these two interact in rebirth and Gotham war)
Dick isn’t in Gotham bc he didn’t get any respect and he fucked off and became the justice leagues favorite lil guy and then turns out Bruce just sucked at people thing and he was actually secretly also his lil guy
Babs is literally depicted and omnipotent 1/2 the time and while I think fanon exaggerates her strengths a bit too much (or just leaves her out entirely) and canon disrespects the sanctity of her character all the time the CHARACTERS in the series don’t
Anyway
THE PERSON WHO NEVER EVER GETS ENOUGH CREDIT AND IS LOOKED OVER BY BW THE MOST
Is STEPHANIE MOTHERFUCKING BROWN
NOT ONLY WAS SHE THE FUNNIEST, MOST CHARMING AND LIKABLE BATGIRL (I’m right be quiet) SHE WAS AND IS ALWAYS JUST A BREATH OF FRESH AIR AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MUCH LATER STAGES OF BATMAN AND ROBIN (dick and Dami edition) SHE GETS DOGGED ON
BRUCE DOESNT THINK SHES GOOD ENOUGH FOR WAYY TOO LONG
JASON (fun mirror horror landcore but yeah they’re not friends)
DICK DIDNT THINK SHE COULD DO IT (he was wrong, he realized this like a good boy)
TIM GOD DONT GET ME STARTED ON THIS LIL SHIT (affectionate)
Everybody just picks him up, like a couple of grapes
https://archiveofourown.org/works/23094079
idk if you like reverse robins but…red hood steph
PFFFFTTTTTTT
BRO I feel like so many times people de age my son and make him a saint or the devil.
No HE IS JUST CHAOS
Bro grew up weird and thinks the way he grew up was normal ofc he’s annoyed your worried for him
There are like 2 things bby Grayson doesn’t like
- insults to his parents
- insults to his showmanship/ skill
If you think a BRUISE is gonna knock him down obviously you’re insulting both and are obviously cringe fail losers lmao
Also I love how we all agree that in the deaged verse Damian is horrifically and cartoonishly protective of Dick Grayson
THANK YOU FOR THE FIC REC
It's an honor killing if it happens in Asia, femicide if it happens in LaTam but it's a preventable tragedy if it happens in the USA
Sorry to bother you, but I’m trying to get into comics and I was wondering if you had any comic recs? Your takes on the characters seem really interesting so I kinda wanted to know you’re favorite runs/ what you find interesting or important.
Thank you for your time, and have a nice day!
Hi dear! My advice is
Fuck everyone. If something sounds cool you can start there hell the first comic I finished was Grayson? Find your lil guy/girl and go for it!
If you wanna be more linear or if you wanna start reading about a character that you don’t know that much about then genuinely the best piece of advice I’d give you is literally go “Nightwing/arsenal/flash/batgirl/stephanie brown/cassandra Cain/literally pick a hero or civilian name it doesn’t even matter reading order Reddit” that’s literally how i got started
If you want my opinion, I’d avoid the new 52 for one of your first series. Despite all the shit I give the new 52 a lot of it is fun. But the best way I can put it! Is that a lot of the characters only exist in the new 52
Like dick and Jason are entirely different motherfuckers in the new 52. Dick specifically?? Wearing red?? Atrocious
My personally favorite runs right now are a mix of fun new stuff and older classics (and mostly Dick Grayson sue me if you have seen my lil account you know by now I am a dick Grayson Stan first human second call me Tim Drake)
This starts in a certain order and slowly devolves I’m sorry I tried! But… not that hard
-Batman year 1
- Batman and Robin year 1 (2024) - my son is adorable here
-batman the long Halloween
- absolute Batman (honestly all of the absolute verse the Wally stuff is looking really promising so far tho I won’t co-sign it yet)
- Robin year 1
-worlds finest! (Thank you Dan mora we all say in unison)
- Nightwing year 1
- teen titans (yes including Judas contract)
- new teen titans
- Nightwing 1996 (ik Dixon is a lil bitch but I like this run)
-outsiders (2003) - DickRoy divorce arc my beloved
- now technically you need to read rebirth but I fucking hated the himbofication of my son so read at your own risk
- Batman and Robin 2009 (villain Jay Jay my son)
-NIGHTWING ALL IN (the moment they de-lobotomized him I lost my marbles)
- supersons (cute, light hearted, adorable, if Damian doesn’t become a favorite of yours after this I’ll write you an apology note)
- Batman: under the red hood
- Grayson (this comic fucking sucks but I’m a sucker for this genre of super spy also the ART STYLE)
-Batman hush (also the new hush bc I like Jason’s suffering)
YOU DONT NEED TO READ ALL OF THIS!!!! If you want a lazy way to get all the background info! Fandom wikis exist! Literally pick and drop whatever you want. If anyone judges you! They suck!
Also some of these aren’t good!! (Grayson) the fandom doesn’t like em but I LIKE EM! They’re fun! My
My takes on characters changes depending on like the era I’m reading and even the comic I’m reading (for example Jason is currently my son my lil baby boy and a month ago I wanted them to blow him up again) but I might make a post detailing like my actual canon only opinion of certain characters (mainly titans and core batfamily)
Anyway HAVE FUN AND HAPPY READING :D
Headcanon that when extremely sleep deprived Dick tells Jason wayyy too much traumatizing lore about his life.
Bc he kinda forgets that Jay wasn’t there for it
Since he was hallucinating the bastard (yeah I know in canon it was obviously a hallucination idk)
So Dick will accidentally just lore dump about the most insane shit bc well Jason was there (no he wasn’t)
And when he’s offensively sleep deprived it goes the other direction and he forgets that Jason ever came back.
So he’s just in the corner watching what he believes to be a hallucination of his baby brother except for some reason his mind decided he needed to see what Jay would look like grown up.
Dick on day 7 without sleep watching Jason beat up a gang member: maybe my therapist was right
Jason: the fuck are you-?
Dick: Maybe I DO need to go back on anti-psychotics
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Dick alone in his apartment with a bag of shredded cheese and a plain cereal box in one hand ready to have what is probably the Most depressing depression meal: hmmm hmmmm hmmm
Jason who climbed through a window while dick was distracted: Sup
Dick: ah look a wild hallucinajason appears
Jason: what the fuck did you the call me
Dick patting Jason’s cheek: oh they’re somatosensory now too! That’s new! Anyway bye bye baby bird
Jason watching his brother leave the kitchen: ….okay what the fuck?
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Dick only on 3 days without sleep: this reminds of the time I was about the sign my marriage license!
Jason: two things 1) why does a shootout remind you of being at the courthouse 2) WHEN THE FUCK DID YOU GET MARRIED
Dick: I didn’t get married?
Jason: then what the hell are you talking about
Dick: idk the last time I tried too get married way more guns than necessary were involved and you know when I tired to get married Jay you were there!
Jason “was dead at the time” Todd: what the fuck are you talking about?
Dick: yeah! I mean you really hated her so you told me I’d be a disappointment if I married her and then disappeared. Which like granted I also didn’t wanna marry her but that was harsh
Jason: ….. I? I don’t even know what the appropriate response is? Here
Dick: an apology would be nice?
Jason who is now 50% sure his ghost haunted his brother 25% sure his brother was hallucinating and like 25% sure Bruce used his image as a tool to get dick to do what he wanted: ……. You know what… nah she was a bitch and I’m glad you didn’t marry her
Dick: I mean.. same
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Dick has a caffeine IV Grayson : this brings me back to the good old days
Jason dodging an alien: ??? When you were Robin ? How?
Dick: no! When Donna died and I didn’t have to worry about saying alive so I could do insane shit like infiltrating an alien spaceship with no protective gear
Jason:??????????????? Dick what the fuck
Dick: OH come on??? You were there! Very quippy 10/10 would be haunted by again
Jason:…. I- yeah you know what I’m not touching this one

the reason I hate the "Tim doesn't trust Dick after Damian/spyral/ric" is because they are besties your honour.
Like there's a post going around that I cannot for the life of me find that says Dick is Tims trusted adult and they are so right fr ong.
Because despite what Fanon believes Dick is a pretty chill guy and people take one look at him and go "let me unload my emotional baggage on you"
There's like a very famous panel (that im too lazy to find or remember the name of the run its in okay don't yell at me) where Tim basically goes "soooo my girlfriends pregnant" and Dick nearly falls off the roof.
Tim is calling Dick for the dumbest shit imaginable to the world ending and so are the rest of the batkids.
so I have taken the Canon that Dick knows if not all but most and generalised it to hell.
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Jason has been on a team with like 80% of OG titan members
they're having gossip session
Jason in a war zone dodging bullets with his bat travel mug in his hand: And THEN! Kori and Roy shared this look and you know the look they give you when they're judging you for bat reasons and you're like tell me why you're mad I was raised by a crazy person my normal levels are skewed.
Dick in NYC with a blueberry bagel In one hand, his Turkish coffee in another, just finished meeting up with Donna who gave him THAT exact look: No REALLLLL why are they like that, just tell me which one of the creepy traits I internalised as a child is bothering you.
Jason: omg you get it anyway so I grab the bomb and start playing soccer with it because its round and im bored and starfire takes it away like idk what im doing? bro ive been bombed I know how to work with a bomb..
Dick: hmmm and then what happened
Jason: and then.....
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Tim: Dickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Dick: yea Tim
Tim: Kon is being a dick
Dick: oh?
Tim: yeah and its really starting to bother me man
Dick who knows Kon is dead and Tim is either hallucinating or drugged to be more susceptible to manipulation and is already on his way: hmm tell me more babybird whys he upsetting my lil brother
Tim about to tell Dick what is a fever dream bc he contracted pneumonia and is loopy off his ass on painkillers:
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steph does this more with babs in the hero scene but its just... so easy and totally gets into the habit of it after Dick is her Batman for a bit and now she uses him as her civilian life therapist
Steph on her way back from campus: and then this bitch looks me up and down and pours her coffee cup down my shirt!
Dick on his way back to blud after decking bruce in the face: hold on hold on hold on she did what??
Steph nodding vigorously even though he can't see her: pulls my whole ass sweater away from my body and pours her peats coffee down my goddamn shirt Dick.
Dick: omg she didnt
Steph still nodding: she DID and then I found out from Jonny who found out from Vivian that someone told her I made out with her boyfriend at Leos house party
Dick who has no idea who any of these people are: wait but you were at Leos for like an hour max last week. we has smoothies after.
StepH: exactly so I had proof that I wasn't there and confronted her and went like. I don't want your crusty ass alt white boy whose favourite 'indie' band is the neighbourhood. I dated Tim fucking Drake the OG crusty ass white boy and I don't do repeats
Dick choking on his coffee:
Steph: anyway we are besties now and planning on getting her boyfriend back because apparently he cheated on her with this drop dead gorgeous girl and im high key a lil complimented she thought we were the same person.
Dick who initially called for casework and is actually so happy one of the people he calls siblings is actually like living a life outside of vigilantism: tell me more
Steph: you sound a little teary
dick: don't worry about it
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Damian: Richard
Dick: Damian
Damian: so I might be skipping patrol with father
Dick:? what you love patrol??
Damian: and school
Dick: Dames? what's going on:? is everything okay? you can talk to me
Damian: I am volunteering at a hospital
Dick: kid
Damian: Listen before you sAY anything I know what we do is important but I think I can help in another way and -
Dick had brown parents and was training for the olympics at 8, totally knows what its like to have insane expectations and rebel with a day job: kid kid calm down okay? you wanna be a doctor? is that it?
Damian: well? I dont really know but I just? there has to be another way to help people. besides what we do I mean-
Dick: Alfred left me Thomas waynes journals I initially thought they were to bash your fathers head in when he was being stupid but it seems the old man was looking out for us. Wanna take a stab at your other grandpas legacy when you come over next weekend. I'll tell Bruce we patrolled so you get a few more days off.
Damian: you're the best
You know my favorite thing when a characters least favorite person doesn’t make sense.
Like Bruce you deal with the joker why is Hal Jordan on the top of your shit list every other day
And when it’s not Hal why is lex he’s not even ur villain
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