WOMEN! QUEENS! BEAUTIES!!!!
FINALLY! I came up with a vague concept of the women of Sparta, my favourite one is Clytemnestra, I kind of like how she turned out and how she is different from her cousin and sister, I wanted her to be Extravagant, different,more and less traditional at the same time, just like my Hera( I always say that Agamemnon and Clytemnestra are just the earthly equivalent of Zeus and Hera, change my mind)
Especially when in my mind each of them are associated with goddesses that started the whole war
Penelope-Athena
Helen-Aphrodite
Clytemnestra -Hera
bonus some fancy hairstyles for Hera that she will interchange because she can (and I can't decide)
I'm really fascinated by the idea of Agamemnon pushing Odysseus and Menelaus to marry.
Menelaus would probably be a good and respectful husband to Ody so that's nice 🙂👍
Also a little funny to imagine but Agamemnon would for sure be at least a little pissed seeing Odysseus being all nice and calm around Menelaus meanwhile he got almost mauled by her.
I also wonder how Menelaus would react seeing Diomedes clearly pining for Ody. I can imagine him becoming slightly possessive and protective of his omega but it's also possible he would allow Dio to court her but at least at the beginning Menelaus would be there to make sure that Dio would not try anything malicious on her.
What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?
Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)
There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool
1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)
2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)
3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.
4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.
What's your take on if Odysseus was transported back in time to the start of the Trojan War after defeating for Poseidon?
That depends:...
If it was just his mind going back then it could be an interesting way to explore his changed morality and his view on people.
He would probably make sure that Eurylochus does not have a reason to doubt him by being more clear in what his intentions are.
He would also struggle less/more with his PTSD which would change his interactions with Polites.
Also the journey back would be easier since he would know to avoid or to kill the Cyclop so they would back home in a few months or a year. (Only in epic universe)
But if Ody got physically transported back it would be just painful.
He aged ten more years, has scars he can't speak of and his friends would barely recognise him. In both of those he would avoid telling anyone what happened. Also in both it's hard to say what would be his relation with Athena.
She didn't have her character arc so he would face her cold self after knowing how she acts at her worst.
There is a high chance they would part ways anyway because Ody would not trust her and she didn't have the reason to change her mindset.
In addition to that Menelaus broke down crying when seeing Telemachus for how much he looked like Odysseus.
I find the "Telemachus in 'Odysseus' realising his father doesn't know what he looks like as an adult" jokes hilarious, but also, this is what Athena said when she met Telemachus for the first time:
How do any of Telemachus' parents handle the affections that other deities or mythical creatures might give to their son? I mean, considering Titan Ody's experiences with affection (that one goddes that cursed him) before he met Penelope and Diomedes .I'd imagine he'd be a little weary. How does Telemachus handle it himself?
What are their favorite foods? (godly food or otherwise)
Telemachus is rather blunt and unlike his father he doesn't mind openly rejecting someone. Ody also might create shelters for his baby and Diomedes and Penelope don't mind beating up annoying gods.
Short "myth" about Titan of Peace Odysseus.
After many days Dionysus finally found a perfect spot for his cult to celebrate. It was a small island full of fruits, flowers and other breathtaking sights.
He let his people and satyrs alone for a day while he would gather the wine needed. What surprised him was that once he was back, his people were asleep. Even when they woke up they would act too calm to enjoy a party.
Dionysus tried again and again to make them active. In the act of desperation he called out Apollo to help him.
The god of music at first laughed at the god of wine, claiming that he's so boring that even his followers mellowed down.
But suddenly the same thing happened to Apollo's followers as well. His musicians would only play lullabies and his dancers only moved slowly in embrace.
Buty gods tried to find the source of it all and it was then where they found Titan Odysseus sleeping in the nearby field of flowers.
Narcoleptic titan probably planned only to nap for a short while but black or loud wildlife on this island created a situation where nothing would wake him up naturally and now everyone was experiencing an effect of his domain.
Both gods tried everything to wake him up but nothing was helping. The river was too shallow, warm and calm to wake up titan and most animals were unwilling to help.
Finally out of desperation Dionysus lured in the loudest goat on the island and Apollo used its horn to turn it into an instrument noisy enough to awaken their friend.
They blew at it with the full power of their lungs. It was heard by a nearby island as well and even Helios would almost trip from his chariot, being startled by the instrument.
But it worked! Odysseus woke up. With slow movement he stretched his limbs. Seeing tired looking Apollo and Dionysus (they are tired since they tried to wake him up for days) he asks if he can help them with anything. The two gods explained the situation which made Odysseus embarrassed. He apologised and promised to leave the island, but Dionysus invited Ody to come back in three days. He would be able to enjoy some fun and music and he would be a huge help in calming down drunk followers of his.
The gods and titan enjoyed their time with mortals and the world was introduced to new instruments. The horn 📯
It makes me wonder how everything would be once Ody would be pregnant.
How it would affect everyone.
Also how would the Trojan war change.
Let's say that pact somehow still exists and Agamemnon is the one to take everyone into the battlefield.
Would the brothers argue over taking Odysseus or not? Agamemnon might be prideful but he knows that he needs her as the tactitian
What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?
Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)
There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool
1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)
2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)
3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.
4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.
How much do you think god or Titan Odysseus affects greek mythology if at all?
How does Telemachus find his domains?
What abilities do you think Diomedes would inherit upon becoming a deity?
Titan Odysseus would not affect Greek mythology too much. He is one of those gods/titans that you fear about but they are rarely active in stories of other people. (Like the greek god of riches for example.)
He would have a few stories involving gods like Apollo or Ares that were unable to do their job because Ody was too close to them or a story or two about a mortal/nymph who tried to seduce Ody only to be cursed by Penelope.
Telemachus finds his domain during his travels with his parents. He finds traveling people who had a problem with setting up their camp. Telemachus helped them by helping them find a shelter and creating a campfire that would survive a night. Travellers gave Telemachus a flute (which would become his symbol) and some food as thanks and they spent the rest of the night exchanging stories and playing music together. Telemachus was able to calm down stressed travellers and aided them, that way he discovered his domain.
I'm still not sure what type of god Dio would become so I don't know.
Titan or god Odysseus. What's your take on dioodypen? Like how would it go?
With Penelope it would probably be the same as I described before.
Dio would stumble upon them by accident. He would travel only to hear the soft sound of music.
At first he was just visiting them regularly but then he admitted that he started falling for them
They would start dating and Dio would most likely accept ambrosia.
Also when he tried to tell others nobody believed him that he dates a titan and goddess
Working on the second chapter of "Sing, O Muse, of Agony". New characters are introduced adding to building drama 🤭🫣
Ody is told that he is needed somewhere only to enter the palace where the princess is like:
How Aphrodite usually pranks/pranked Ody?
Trying to set him up on dates/situations where a romantic or sexual encounter might occur
She is SO invested in his love life like to an unreasonable level of OBSESSION