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Well the drawing is not amazing but I really wanted to post something.

Summary of all mentions of members of Hong Lu's family in the game + comparison with the original book

Summary:

Mention of his “family” in general in the game

Mention of the family elders in the game + comparison with the original work

Mention of his grandmother in the game + comparison with the original work

Mention of his grandfather in the game + comparison with the original work

Mention of his father in the game + comparison with the original work

Mention of his siblings in the game + comparison with the original work

Mention of his brother (Jia Huan) in the game

I wanted to recap all the times Hong Lu talks about his family or a particular member of his family while at the same time comparing them to their version of the original novel by giving some info on the latter (assuming that Hong Lu = Jia Baoyu ). I excluded from this list the uncles and aunts by marriage as well as Baoyu's cousins ​​ for various reasons (too long otherwise, not mentioned...) but I will perhaps do a part 2 to talk about them.

Was also excluded, the entire branch which stems from Jia Yan (the brother of Jia Yuan (the father of Jia Daishan, the husband of Grandmother Jia)), a branch which remains important since it is this one who leads to the actual Head of the Ningguo Mansion (Jia Zhen) when the story takes place. But since, they are distant relatives/cousins ​​of Jia Baoyu, that was taking me too far and so I had to remove them from this list. But I still wanted to mention it since it is an important branch of the family

The Jia family is mainly composed of 4 great families: the Jia Family, the Xue Family, the Wang Family and the Shi family in other words those who were born with the name Jia and those who joined the family by marriage / alliance / by being the brother / sister of one of the grooms… (born Xue or Wang or Shi).

There are also other families like the Xing or Lin family joining the Jia family but whose name appears (very) less often and which are also not considered as one of the great families of the novel.

This list of family members is made in relation to the place they occupy in relation to Jia Baoyu.

I/Mention of his “family” in general in the game

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Main story, Canto II, episode: 3

Detour Tales, Chapter 5.5, Miracle in district 20, episode: 13

Main story, Canto V, episode: 2

Hong Lu’s promo pre-limbus company release (Hong Lu also mentions the family’s chef’s side dishes but I didn’t include it because it was not about his family specifically)

II/Mention of the family elders in the game + comparison with the original work

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To tell the truth, I don't really know what the term "elders" is supposed to encompass in this context in the sense that, I don't know whether or not parents and/or uncles/aunts should be included in addition to the grandparents.

In my opinion the term "elders" refers to all the generations who are above the one who uses this term (in this case Hong Lu / Jia Baoyu) so I would tend to want to count the parents and uncles / aunts but I cannot say this with certainty.

I will therefore base myself on my interpretation so that it will allow me to talk about more characters of the novel but do not hesitate to let me know what this term encompasses!

1st generation:

Grand parents:

Jia Daishan:

Son of Jia Yuan

first Duke of Rong

husband of Grandmother Jia

father of Jia She, Jia Min and Jia Zheng

grandfather of the three first Spring Ladies (Jia Yuanchun, Jia Tanchun and Jia Yingchun), Jia Zhu, Baoyu, Daiyu, Jia Huan, Jia Lian

died before the beginning of the novel, reason why we don’t know much about him

Grandma Jia (the Dowager):

Daughter of the Marquis Shi of Jinling

Wife of Jia Daishan

Grandmother Jia is a generation above the oldest member of the Rongguo Mansion (Jia Jing)

Thus, members of the Jia family all defer to her

For further information, refer to the paragraph dedicated to her below

Great uncle(s):

Dowager’s brother:

We don't know much about the Dowager's brother

He is Grandmother Jia’s brother

He is the father of Shi Ding and Shi Xiangyun's Father

He is Shi Xiangyun’s grandfather

died before the beginning of the novel, reason why we don’t know much about him

2nd generation:

Parents:

Jia Zheng:

Jia Zheng is the second and youngest son of Jia Daishan and Grandmother Jia.

He has a wife, Lady Wang, and two concubines: Zhao (with whom he had two children) and Zhou

For further information, refer to the paragraph dedicated to him below

Lady Wang:

Daughter of one of the four most prominent families of Jinling (Wang)

Primary wife of Jia Zheng

Mother of Baoyu and Yuanchun

Because of her purported ill-health, she hands over the running of the household to her niece, Wang Xifeng

In the eyes of her servants, she appears as a statue of a lifeless Buddha.

Although generous, she is described as without will or conviction.

Lady Wang seems kind and caring but can be cruel and ruthless when her authority is questioned.

She shows excessive concern about her son Baoyu's romantic relationships and closely monitors his maids.

Lady Wang plays a role in the death of Baoyu's maid, Qingwen, due to her suspicion and cruelty toward maids she perceives as threats to her son's virtue.

Uncles:

Jia She:

Elder son of the Dowager

Big brother of Jia Zheng and Jia Min

Husband of Xing furen

He has 2 concubines: Yingchun’s mother and Jia Cong's mother

Father of Jia Lian, Jia Yingchun and Jia Cong

He inherited the title of Marquis Rong

He is treacherous and greedy, as well as seductive/woomanizer.

He feels jealous towards his younger brother, favored by their mother.

He was later stripped of his title and banished by the government.

Father of Wang Ren and Wang Xifeng:

Lady Wang’s brother

Also brother of Wang Ziteng and Wang Zisheng

Father of Wang Ren and Wang Xifeng:

Wang Ziteng:

Lady Wang’s brother

Also brother of Wang Xifeng’s father and Wang Zisheng

Wang Zisheng:

Lady Wang’s brother

Also brother of Wang Xifeng’s father and Wang Ziteng

Aunts:

Jia Min:

Daughter of Jia Daishan and Grandmother Jia

Sister of Jia She and Jia Zheng

Wife of Lin Ruhai

Mother of Lin Daiyu

Xue Yima also known as Aunt Xue:

Sister of Lady Wang

Sister of Wang Ziteng, Wang Zisheng and Wang Xifeng’s father

Mother to Xue Pan and Xue Baochai

She is generally kind and affable.

However, she struggles to control her rambunctious son.

III/ Mention of his grandmother in the game + comparison with the original work

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If Hong Lu is indeed the equivalent of Jia Baoyu in the world of limbus company, Hong Lu's grandmother should be the one known as Grandmother Jia, née Shi:

Grandmother Jia:

Also called Dowager Shi or simply the Dowager

She is the daughter of the Marquis Shi of Jinling

Grandmother Jia is a generation above the oldest member of the Rongguo Mansion (Jia Jing)

Main elder of the great family, she is the oldest and most respected authority of the Jia Clan

Of an enjoyable temperament, she does not intervene in the private lives of her children provided that they do not disturb her, even if they have become debauched or high rollers.

It was she who arranged for Daiyu, her only "outside" (i.e., maternal) grandchild, to come to the Rongguo Mansion

She spoils her grandson Baoyu whom she carries in adoration

Despite this, she does not approve of his love for Daiyu

She is the one who supports the marriage arranged by Sister Pheonix (Wang Xifeng) between Baoyu and Baochai

She will die at the ripe old age of 83

Maybe it's just me, but she seems to be one of the people if not the person who pays the most attention to Jia Baoyu's jade, reminding him to take care of it, asking him if he knows where it is his jade when he is not wearing it, paying attention to the stone...

IV/ Mention of his grandfather in the game + comparison with the original work

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Hong Lu’s promo pre-limbus company release (yéyé" (爷爷) meaning "grandfather" or “grandpa”. It is an affectionate term used to refer to one's grandfather in Mandarin.)

So we don’t really know which of his two grandfathers Hong Lu is referring to but knowing that in the novel only his paternal grandfather is mentioned and died before the novel begins, I think the "grandfather" Hong is talking about is Jia Daishan (and that he probably died in the world of Limbus Company too)

Jia Daishan:

Son of Jia Yuan

first Duke of Rong

husband of Grandmother Jia

father of Jia She, Jia Min and Jia Zheng

grandfather of the three first Spring Ladies (Jia Yuanchun, Jia Tanchun and Jia Yingchun), Jia Zhu, Baoyu, Daiyu, Jia Huan, Jia Lian

died before the beginning of the novel, reason why we don't know much about him

V/ Mention of his father in the game + comparison with the original work

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If Hong Lu is indeed the equivalent of Jia Baoyu in the world of limbus company, Hong Lu's father should be Jia Zheng:

Jia Zheng:

He is the second and youngest son of Jia Daishan and Grandmother Jia.

He has a wife, Lady Wang, and two concubines: Zhao (with whom he had two children) and Zhou

Father of Jia Zhu (deceased), Jia Yuanchun, Jia Baoyu, Jia Tanchun and Jia Huan

Confucianism had a great influence on him: he is a Confucian scholar who tries to be an upright and decent person, he fulfills his duties of filial piety towards the Dowager, and wants to educate his children strictly

Afraid his one surviving heir will turn bad, he imposes strict rules on his son (Jia Baoyu), and uses occasional corporal punishment.

Jia Baoyu is afraid of him

He has the ambition to become a good civil servant

But he lacks experience and is easily deceived by others, which earns him a bad reputation.

VI/ Mention of his siblings in the game + comparison with the original work

Main story, Canto III, episode: 2

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If Hong Lu is indeed supposed to be the Jia Baoyu of the world of Limbus Company, then, if we refer to the novel The Dream of the Red Room, Hong Lu should, like Baoyu, have 4 siblings:

Jia Zhu:

First son of Jia Zheng and Lady Wang

Big brother of Jia Baoyu and Jia Yuanchun and half-brother of Jia Tanchun and Jia Huan since they share the same father.

In the original novel, Jia Zhu is already dead prior to the action of the novel, so we know very little about him.

He had a son (Jia Lan) with Li Wan

Jia Yuanchun:

First female family member of the quartet of "Springs", first daughter of Jia Zheng and Lady Wang

Big sister of Jia Baoyu and Jia Yuanchun and half-sister of Jia Tanchun and Jia Huan since they share the same father.

She is about 10 years older than Baoyu.

She was raised by her grandmother

As an older sister, she taught Baoyu to read and write when he was liitle like his mother would have done.

Originally one of the ladies-in-waiting in the imperial palace, Yuanchun is later promoted to the highest ranking of imperial concubine "Xiande”, having impressed the Emperor with her virtue and intellect.

Despite her prestigious position, Yuanchun feels imprisoned within the four walls of the imperial palace.

She died at the age of forty, following an illness, in total isolation.

Jia Tanchun:

Third female family member of the quartet of "Springs", second daughter of Jia Zheng and his concubine, concubine Zhao

Big sister of Jia Huan and younger half-sister of Jia Zhu, Jia Yuanchun and Jia Baoyu since they share the same father.

The fact that she is the daughter of a concubine is still such a burden that she often claims Lady Wang, Baoyu's mother, as her own

Tanchun is a very clever and capable person, as much as Sister Phoenix for comparison

But, as the proverb says, "he who comes last will have fewer opportunities than the others", and this is what happened to her, because when her family declined she had not done much and she was sent to a distant region following an arranged marriage

Jia Huan:

Third son of Jia Zheng and his concubine, concubine Zhao

Little brother of Jia Tanchun and younger half-brother of Jia Zhu, Jia Yuanchun and Jia Baoyu since they share the same father.

More info just below

VII/ Mention of his brother (Jia Huan) in the game

Main story, Canto I, episode: 30

Main story, Canto V, episode: 18 (there we don’t know if he is talking about Jia Huan or not but there are not many other options and from what we can deduce from Jia Huan’s behaviour (in game and in the book too) it’s not very out off character)

Jia Huan:

Third male family member of the generation of the Jia household, son of Jia Zheng and his concubine, concubine Zhao

Little brother of Jia Tanchun and half-brother of Jia Zhu, Jia Yuanchun and Jia Baoyu since they share the same father.

He is described as ugly and clumsy

He and his mother are both reviled by the family, and he carries himself like a kicked dog.

He is very cunning but mediocre, he shows his malignant nature by spilling candle wax, intending to blind his half-brother Baoyu

That’s all! If I have forgotten any moments where Hong Lu talks about his family, don't hesitate to tell me and I will add it! Also, I tried to verify and proof-read all the info and everything should be correct but if I made a mistake feel free to point it out to me :)

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There is so little merchandise with Niffty and the rest of the staff or just Niffty that I decided to console myself by drawing what could be a mouse pad.

Even though I hope that she will appear more often...

I finally watched The Owl House, and it was awesome! Now I am waiting for the rest.

I am particularly fond of the blight sibling. So I start practicing drawing them. There I wanted to represent Emira in a quite luxurious dress like one you could find in a coming of aged ceremony.

WAKE UP, CANTO 8 TRAILER SHOWN AND THERES A HONG LU ANIMATION. HONG LU PMOON'S FAVOURITE CHILD ALLEGATIONS REAL?!?!?!?!?1

OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!!!

THE BELL IS TOLLING, THE DAYS ARE NUMBERED, ANIMATION IN LIMBUS ?!! It's too much and it's just the teaser...

Now that ducktales 2017 is over I can't wait to watch Molly Mcgee and the ghost! I tried to draw her in the dress she is wearing when she is singing for her (girl)friend.

I just saw the little teaser for the song "Insane" by Alastor. It made me so hyper that I decided to post old drawings of outfits for Niffty that I had forgotten to post

"Della queen of the moon"

[Repost following an involuntary erasure]

So I was still thinking about the trailer of the sequel to season 2 of ducktales 2017 and thinking again about this scene:

Especially when you hear Fenton screaming for Gyro. (Yes I really like Gyro, and he can be a little too involved in all my scenarios but I want emotion with this character who lives in insecurity)

It probably means that Gyro is in danger but I wonder why? Well obviously the obvious situation: the alien invasion

However, I try to find a more specific reason why Gyro could be a more "specific" target of this invasion. More during my last post speaking already of this moment, a comment of @andrewmoocow caught my attention and stimulated my imagination, it spoke about a possible alien kidnapping, and frankly it is likely, after why Gyro in particular ?

In answer I will tell you, because of the asset that it could represent in the eyes of Lunaris. I mean, Lunaris is manipulative, he skillfully (it must be admitted) led Della to hand him the rocket plan and convince his people to lead an invasion on Earth. But perhaps Lunaris wants to acquire more weapon or means to move in space to prove the power of the Moon. Lunaris seems to be a warrior who seems to want a life of combat and greatness not a coward life like his father (we can feel the backstory). However, the people of the Moon do not seem to have any intellectual asset that can fulfill the role of scientist who can build weapons and ships especially. Since they had to wait for the arrival of Della and 10 years later (I think), to finally succeed in obtaining the plan of a rocket After it is true that the people of the Moon possesses laser pistols and vessels with guns (which proves that they know how to improve the rocket), so maybe they have a deep knowledge of firepower but not how to say..... displacement (?).

Watch as he looks pleased with him when he finally gets the precious textbook.

So it would be possible for Lunaris to search for someone who could build more sophisticated ships or other things, and who better than the one who built the spear of Selene. But how Lunaris could know that Gyro is the one who created it and well because of a small detail that does not seem so important.

Okay okay I know it's a minimalist design and it could be interpreted by someone who does not know Gyro as a little drawing of support / guide but we can recognize Gyro, moreover this drawing is in the manual that Lunaris probably had to study in depth and it's Gyro, he had to leave his trademark. Otherwise it would not be the first time we slip a detail / a replica etc ... which turns out to be very important in the future or be a foreshadowing.

So Lunaris would recognize Gyro and when an opportunity arises he will try to kidnap him or kidnap him. What can explain why Fenton will have to go to Japan to learn more about Gyro to try to find out where he might be after his abduction or that Gyro was there after the invasion.

After I thought of a scenario that remains an entire speculation and which is based only on extracts of sentences that can be taken out of their context and my crazy imagination. It seems that the Mcduck family is the main target of Lunaris, why? I do not know .... because it is the family of Della who is seen as a traitor by the people of the Moon, so this family is seen as criminals and Lunaris uses them as a means of motivation for his people is favorable to the invasion for their invasion? Maybe ... but then why are not there Gladstone and Fethry?

Well let's get back to our sheep, and if season 2 ended on a crisis situation like in Steven universe at the end of season 4 [spoilers alert] where Steven embark on the ship of Aquamarine to save his friends and having them told the latter that it was Rose Quartz and we are left on this crisis situation pending the start of season 5, so why ducktales 2017 would not do the same? (Although the situation may also take place during the episode if it happens)

And that it would be this crisis situation ,which could be at the origin of Scrooge's face:

well it would be the kidnapping of Gyro AND children or at least some, I think especially to Louis. Imagine, Scrooge and his family managed to defeat Glomgold and all his team and to repel the alien invasion (assuming that these events at the same time) and then when we thought it's was over, Lunaris comes out of nowhere, gets to catch children or one of them and maybe Gyro then takes them to a ship, while using the child (ren) as a means of pressure can be and finally managed to escape with them in front of the horrified eyes of Scrooge and the rest of the family. Louie screaming desperately for his mother and Gyro for Gizmoduck. Indeed in the trailer we can hear scream Mom! Thanks a lot to @ byrdybyrd02 for pointing out me -, - 'because being a french with a sufficient level in english I can miss details or misunderstand; brief. That's why Louie could be the victim of the kidnapping unless it is Della who is a victim and who is taken away from his family still crying desperately for his children. The situation would then be repeated: Scrooge would once again lose someone important to him who could not do anything by watching Lunaris go into space. This could lead to a significant cash outlay from Scrooge to find Lunaris, which could influence the bet between him and Glomgold (I do not know if the bet / year ends at the end of season 2) . Vultures could also be involved, revealing also their potential to be antagonists as it is understood in comic # 8

The victim could also be Fenton and it would be Gyro should have saved him but .... I think it does not work.

After the other question is it would be wise to separate Gyro or Louie or children or Della from others, probably restricting their time of appearance or devoting an episode to them. Taking into account that this situation of kidnapping will last only a short time at the beginning of the season 3 and that the people of the Moon or a part is decided to stop the revolution and would remain living on the ground (?).

Firstly, if Gyro and Louie were to involve both in this situation, it would be interesting to study their relationship but Louie is already developing a link with Goldie but one does not prevent the other.

Second possibility Gyro and Della, we already had a glimpse of the relationship between Della and Gyro that seems to be electric (?). But it could really be interesting to see them both interact, and see them try to cooperate. In addition, it would be an opportunity to discover Gyro's involvement in the construction of Selene's spear and may even have noticed Gyro's guilt for Della's disappearance and how it could be affect his life. By the way the fact that it is Della who is taken could repeat his disappearance which could be as interesting. After that could also play on the possible involvement of Penumbra. I do not think she will stay with Lunaris until the end of season 2 and she will be entitled to her bow of redemption and the development of her friendship with Della. But if it is his last separate it can be complicated but Penumbra could show a burning desire to save Della to show his forgiveness.

[By the way, a little parenthesis to all this speculation]

How Della will react to the betrayal of Lunaris and Penumbra

Okay, let's go back to things a little more built. Della believes in Lunaris and Penumbra and she thinks that the next time she sees them, it's as friends. And I'm really worried about Della and her reaction when she's going to understand.

Lunaris and Penumbra are not on his side

They used it to get a way to come to earth

She is therefore responsible for the alienated invasion

That no one of the people of the moon believes in her despite all the honesty she has shown

And that Donald is now a prisoner (because of her indirectly)

I must surely forget but those are for me the most egregious. I would like to linger a little on some:

Della will probably run to Penumbra to hug her, and there Penumbra shoots her, stopping Della's momentum for joy, who does not understand the situation. Della who will react only when his family is targeted. And all the emotion when Della will understand the whole situation that she has caused.

In any case Della's confidence will surely be affected and may be more difficult to trust and to be forgiven

[End to the little parenthesis]

So we resume with our small option:

The last option is the one where only Della or Louie is kidnapped and I do not know what it could bring.

In all three situations, one can have the opportunity to explore the background of Lunaris and what is hiding behind his intentions.

And all will end up with a rescue filled with emotions.

Also (I know I insist only on this scene, but I swear I'll try to talk about the rest X) even if my theories are not the most well-founded and sometimes very extrapolated) I can not locate this scene, impossible to recognize Scrooge's collar on only one other image.

And Scrooge doesn't have his glasses!!! (Thanks @monkey-li ;)) I do not know where to place this scene, I thought it was his pajamas but no ....

That's all my thinking, I may have been carried away X) by the whole situation but I hope that you will still have seen some interesting things ^^. I remind you that a big part of all this is pure speculation and attempts at analysis.

Feel free to share your ideas (in respect of those of others of course> ~ <)

By dint of watching again and again the trailer for the season 2, which is more than epic and which has more than hyped me, I begin to dwell on certain details.

So .... are we going to talk about what we can hear at this time?

Not to mention all the monologue of Scrooge that was perfect (David Tennant did a great job) and the "kids" of Della who finished me the first time I watched this trailer. However, I would like to draw your attention to what we hear around because it seems to me that no one has spoken of it until now.

Like hearing Fenton shout "Doctor Gearloose !!" or Huey (I think, not sure maybe Gyro) screaming "Gizmoduck".

I AM NOT OKAY

Like, what happened to my favourite sassy duck doctor ?! And does my little cinnamon roll and my red son are okay

I do not know if the image is related to what we hear in this excerpt but I'm more than worried about part of our science team.

Moreover the face of scrooge does not tell me anything that valiant, that is what could put it in this state of shock? See Donald use as a hostage while he had to be on vacation? A family member or friend was injured? I do not know but I want to know. And I am 2 times more worried.