Mevia redraw,,
Ok so like (9.5 spoilers kinda?)
1. I've never understood the amount of hate Fitz gets. Like, yeah, he has flaws, but you know who else does? Literally every other character. Yes, even Keefe, who I love with my entire being. And it's completely fine to not like characters, I've just always felt like he gets a disproportionate amount of hate compared to everyone else.
2. Everyone is suddenly saying they love Alvar after Unravelled??? I understand he's "changed" now or whatever but.. he did so much to help the Neverseen and no amount of pancake-rambling from him will ever make me forget that. Sure, I hate him a little less now that he's settled down, but he's still not lovable (imo) and I thought it was really weird how much Keefe was just chilling with him in 9.5. I understand what Shannon was trying to do there but also.. it just didn't feel right to me. Especially when I see people brushing over all the stuff he did just because he's goofy now. Um.
3. PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY LOVE ALVAR MORE THAN FITZ??? I get it, you hate Fitz, but.. c'mon..
Also I'd like to clarify that in this post I'm talking about people loving Alvar and excusing his past actions, not his character in itself. I love Vespera's character, I think she's super cool and interesting, but I don't love her.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter because everyone can have their own opinion and that's the beauty of stories, and one of the best things about KOTLC is the huge range of characters, but I just thought I'd share my opinions on it. So yeah, absolutely no hate to these people, I just personally don't get it š
A lot of people have Pacifica want to become a lawyer, which makes sense because of all the times she threatens to sue . . . but I have a weird little headcanon that keeps popping up in my fics where she becomes a comic/cartoon artist, which she bonds with Stan over. When she's older she puts some of her own experiences growing up (like, being trained by a bell, what the heck) down in comic form, maybe in a direct way, maybe in more of an allegorical way.
Ford, to the most anxious 12 year old in Gravity Falls and perhaps the entire planet: You simply have to not feel any fear
I personally saw Harpvor as Ivor fell first and Harper was like āhey I kinda like this freakā and then they get married. Also Ivor is such a teenage girl which is unrelated but true
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#i really do think that people are able to distance themselves from billās actions because heās not human#the book of bill#
you just made my point so much more succinctly than I did lol
This is going to be a long post, but I don't know how to do the "read more" thing, sorry.
Bear with me for a minute. So I realized recently that I don't actually see that much Mabel or Ford hate, it's mostly stuff I hear from other people. (What I see is generally more subtle, like I read a fic that was good, but Ford took responsibility for Filbrick kicking Stan out. What was he supposed to do? He's 17 too! I also saw someone say the apocalypse wasn't Mabel's fault, it was Ford's. I'd just like to say that it was Bill's fault and Ford was manipulated into building that portal.)
But I do see a lot of Billford. It keeps on showing up in my suggested communities and the "For You" thing, despite The Book Of Bill portraying it as a very manipulative, horrifically abusive relationship. (When I say relationship, I don't necessarily mean romantic. It could have been a completely platonic horrifically abusive relationship.) And I have to wonder if, because Bill is a triangle, we let him get away with things we wouldn't if he were a human and/or doing these things directly to Ford.
Say that there was a movie. In it, there are two human men. Their relationship is clearly built on manipulation, and when the manipulated realizes that he's being manipulated, he tries to leave. The manipulator proceeds to torture him. You see this onscreen and it's horrible. The manipulator drives a nail through this guy's hand, shoves spiders down his throat, humiliates him . . .
Would people ship these two characters? This is the main fandom I'm in, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably not. (I'd like to say that I don't have a problem with people who write them as together . . . as long as it's portrayed as the abusive relationship it actually WAS and not a good relationship.)
All of those were actual things that happened in The Book of Bill. I didn't even mention the psychological torture (He makes Ford forget his OWN NAME) and forced sleep deprivation.
But Bill is a triangle. Bill isn't doing these things directly to Ford. He's doing them while in Ford's body, which is arguably possibly more horrific than if Bill was a separate person doing these things to him, but it's not something that could happen in real life.
But in this analysis of Ford: https://archiveofourown.org/works/58698496/chapters/158032750 when speaking of the torture Ford endured during Weirdmageddon, Callipraxia mentions that the fact that people can't electrocute others "takes at least some of the realism and therefore some of the horror out of the situation." (I apologize if this quote is incorrect, I couldn't find the part where she says this in this quite long work.)
And that makes me wonder if, again because Bill is a triangle and the things he does are literally impossible, it makes people less inclined to see his relationship with Ford as abusive when I have read two separate analyses (one of them is the one referred to above) that straight up say "This reads like a domestic abuse situation." One of them (the one NOT linked above, I'll look for it later) says that Bill hits every. Single. Criteria. For an abuser.
Even before Ford learned what Bill was really there to do, their relationship wasn't good. Bill doesn't show up for months and when Ford asks him where he's been, Bill responds by basically gaslighting him and making him doubt McGucket.
And there's one more thing I noticed. I wasn't in the GF fandom when the show was airing, but I'm pretty sure Billdip didn't become a popular ship until after Sock Puppet Opera, much the same as Billford wasn't so popular until TBOB. It's a pattern of "Bill abuses someone, then gets shipped with that someone." It's quite disturbing.
I know people are going to ship what they're going to ship, but Bill x Pines family members really shouldn't be so popular imo.
Tl;dr: If Bill were a human and you saw him torturing Ford, would you still ship them?
I'm pretty sure I forgot some of what I was going to say, so I might edit this later or reblog it with the extra information.
I do want to say that I do NOT support being rude, sending hate comments or death threats to people who do ship this. Don't do that. Just wanted to say, just in case.
I also want to say that though I put "anti Billford" and "anti Billdip" in the tags, I'm pretty sure I'm not an anti, though I haven't been able to fully figure out what the term means.
Another addendum: I am NOT qualified to be talking about abuse.
This is just a theory.
Meant to post this a while ago but couldn't find it. This was just me messing around (I can draw better than this lol)
So this is cursed to me but I'm glad someone else sees the resemblance between our two one dimensional* bleached blonde purple wearing I-don't-think-Stella-is-a-valley-girl-tho stereotypes who have a rivalry with a main character and get redemption arcs (Stella's doesn't happen every time but it still counts)
*who later turn out to be not actually one dimensional!
Male Jesse x Stella = Dipcifica (graviyy falls)
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This is basically all of my siblings (myself included) when one of our family asks us to do literally anything
I just wanna hear more of Dipper being a Menace
alright fuck it yeah
š ° once he gets back to piedmont, dipper isn't exactly rebellious, but in gravity falls, he got very used to being the master of his own schedule -- going wherever he wanted, whenever he wanted, without adults -- and it absolutely becomes normal for him to just ignore whatever rules his parents try to set about curfew or supervision.
š ° dipper plays a game with mabel where he sticks things to the back of her sweaters and waits to see how many things he can put there until she notices. it drives her absolutely insane and usually ends with her attacking him via stuffed animals.
š ° if someone tells dip no, he often just quietly does it anyway. who's gonna stop him?
š ° one of the reasons he enjoys playing video games with pacifica on call during the non-summer months is the outlet for friendly bickering. like puppies biting each other's ears in an enclosure.
š ° as he gets older, dip always carries some kind of weapon on him: switchblade, swiss army knife -- even a box cutter at one point. he never knows what adventure he's going to get embroiled in next and refuses to get caught unawares.
š ° he loves responding to the question "dipdop, can you do me a favor" with a simple, "no" -- usually while he's already getting up to do mabel the favor.
š ° beware a bored dipper pines. if he's bored, he will make it everyone's problem. best to avoid him.
š ° he once nearly burned the kitchen down trying to warm up food. he's put metal in the microwave. he's burned himself on the oven. the kitchen is not a safe place for him.
š ° he writes in various codes and ciphers on his shoes, pants, takeout containersāmabel is confiscating his pens at this very moment.
š ° sometimes he cuts his own hair and it looks... not awesome. but he has curls so it hides a lot of the fuck ups. mostly.
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anyway, i could do this all day. i love this boy. enjoy!
Nearly every time I've rewatched Infinity Train Book 3 since I first saw it in February, I saw more parallels and narrative echos, and infodumping my friends about them isn't enough anymore
I figured I should do a post about this one because I don't think I've seen a post about that specific thing yet, and I love this show's writing, and. idk. I just need to praise it I guess
So, the most obvious part first:
When Grace mentions her mother in the Debutante Ball Car, it's made pretty clear she's trying to distance herself from her mother as much as possible, and at this point, we realise retrospectively that Grace's room in the Mall Car in episode one was full of sports clothes - it seems she tries to avoid things reminding her of her life before the train. And of her mother. And yet-
She tries to control everyone and everything around her, and makes people do what she doesn't want to do
And she decides what's cool and what isn't
She makes people kneel in her presence, like her mother towers over her in her mind's eye
Obviously she constantly lies to get what she wants, and her dad does that in her tape
When her younger self looks up, she looks right through adult Grace, and it's actually her parents she's looking at! Her younger self is metaphorically seeing her parents where her adult self is standing!! I still can't get over this shot
Also I feel the need to mention her mother has the same voice actor as her in her tape and even if it might be to cut corners in the budget, that feels significant (and to be fair, sometimes you can cut corners while making meaningful choices at the same time)
Now you might think I'd have nothing to say about Simon on that matter, since we don't see any flashback of his life before the Train, and we know next to nothing about his parents. But I think it's very telling that the only actual backstory we get for him is his backstory with The Cat.
Because-
Ok I never see anyone mentioning this, but hear me out
First, we have no idea if Simon knew The Cat was routinely invading people's privacy through their memory tapes, but he sure has no issue doing the exact same thing
But that doesn't stop there. He also collects things obsessively
And makes kids collect things for him as well, by the way
He thinks he's above others, but he immediately switches to victim mode when it comes back to bite him
HE. ABANDONS. A CHILD. WHO WAS UNDER HIS CARE!!
And. Uh. They both dig their heels instead of trying to change, too
Don't get me wrong, on some level I would have liked to know what Simon's parents were like too. I would have liked that a lot. But there's a good chance it wouldn't change anything, because everything we need to know about his background to understand why he's Like That⢠is already in the show
But yeah, Grace and Simon both pretend they found freedom on the Train, and both distance themselves from parental figures who are at the source of their trauma, claiming they're different and better than them - and yet they are both subconsciously repeating patterns that caused at least part of their problems and/or trauma in the first place
And since they decided that making numbers go up was good, as long as they stick to that idea, they are bound to never escape from that self-perpetuating loop of harm and trauma
And I love it
And I hate it
I think one of the best things about dipcifica (both romantic and platonic) is just that neither of them have a clue about what the other person is like.
Like yeah, Dipper doesn't have any idea about modern fashion and other stuff Pacifica values but Pacifica doesn't know either.
And if they even decided to date, both of them are gonna struggle planning it. Dipper 'overthinking' pines for obvious reasons
and Pacifica cuz, what is she supposed to do? Most of what she knows isn't going to work with Dipper like it would with other people.
Is she supposed to plan a date in the supernatural black market? Do they even have restaurants like the mall does?? Can she even reserve a table???
And what is she supposed to wear? An alien outfit? Dipper like kissing aliens right? What fashion do aliens even have?!
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