Am I The Only One Who Noticed Just How SAD Mabel Was In Mabel Land? She Was Nowhere Near The Excitement

Never not being insane about Wendy and Soos btw. They're such found family. Such siblings. Soos has none. Wendy has many. Soos is shy and silly (/aff). Wendy is an angsty teenager (/aff). Soos is aloof and playful. Wendy is reserved and cutting. Soos seems childlike but is actually protective and responsible. Wendy seems tough and laid back but is actually a kid. They both love the twins. The both love Stan. They both love the Mystery Shack because it's like a second home to them.

They are the type that would've never interacted with each other in high school but got stuck in some extracurricular activity together and now they'd kill for each other. And maybe they don't spend that much time together (because of their age difference, or work, or family, or their other friends), but they will consider each other siblings. They will refer to each other as one of their best friends.

Because there's something so special in forming a connection with someone that you know you wouldn't have ever crossed paths with if not for one tiny little coincidence (getting hired at the same place).

I love Wendy and Soos man

#i really do think that people are able to distance themselves from bill’s actions because he’s not human#the book of bill#

you just made my point so much more succinctly than I did lol

I have a theory.

This is going to be a long post, but I don't know how to do the "read more" thing, sorry.

Bear with me for a minute. So I realized recently that I don't actually see that much Mabel or Ford hate, it's mostly stuff I hear from other people. (What I see is generally more subtle, like I read a fic that was good, but Ford took responsibility for Filbrick kicking Stan out. What was he supposed to do? He's 17 too! I also saw someone say the apocalypse wasn't Mabel's fault, it was Ford's. I'd just like to say that it was Bill's fault and Ford was manipulated into building that portal.)

But I do see a lot of Billford. It keeps on showing up in my suggested communities and the "For You" thing, despite The Book Of Bill portraying it as a very manipulative, horrifically abusive relationship. (When I say relationship, I don't necessarily mean romantic. It could have been a completely platonic horrifically abusive relationship.) And I have to wonder if, because Bill is a triangle, we let him get away with things we wouldn't if he were a human and/or doing these things directly to Ford.

Say that there was a movie. In it, there are two human men. Their relationship is clearly built on manipulation, and when the manipulated realizes that he's being manipulated, he tries to leave. The manipulator proceeds to torture him. You see this onscreen and it's horrible. The manipulator drives a nail through this guy's hand, shoves spiders down his throat, humiliates him . . .

Would people ship these two characters? This is the main fandom I'm in, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably not. (I'd like to say that I don't have a problem with people who write them as together . . . as long as it's portrayed as the abusive relationship it actually WAS and not a good relationship.)

All of those were actual things that happened in The Book of Bill. I didn't even mention the psychological torture (He makes Ford forget his OWN NAME) and forced sleep deprivation.

But Bill is a triangle. Bill isn't doing these things directly to Ford. He's doing them while in Ford's body, which is arguably possibly more horrific than if Bill was a separate person doing these things to him, but it's not something that could happen in real life.

But in this analysis of Ford: https://archiveofourown.org/works/58698496/chapters/158032750 when speaking of the torture Ford endured during Weirdmageddon, Callipraxia mentions that the fact that people can't electrocute others "takes at least some of the realism and therefore some of the horror out of the situation." (I apologize if this quote is incorrect, I couldn't find the part where she says this in this quite long work.)

And that makes me wonder if, again because Bill is a triangle and the things he does are literally impossible, it makes people less inclined to see his relationship with Ford as abusive when I have read two separate analyses (one of them is the one referred to above) that straight up say "This reads like a domestic abuse situation." One of them (the one NOT linked above, I'll look for it later) says that Bill hits every. Single. Criteria. For an abuser.

Even before Ford learned what Bill was really there to do, their relationship wasn't good. Bill doesn't show up for months and when Ford asks him where he's been, Bill responds by basically gaslighting him and making him doubt McGucket.

And there's one more thing I noticed. I wasn't in the GF fandom when the show was airing, but I'm pretty sure Billdip didn't become a popular ship until after Sock Puppet Opera, much the same as Billford wasn't so popular until TBOB. It's a pattern of "Bill abuses someone, then gets shipped with that someone." It's quite disturbing.

I know people are going to ship what they're going to ship, but Bill x Pines family members really shouldn't be so popular imo.

Tl;dr: If Bill were a human and you saw him torturing Ford, would you still ship them?

I'm pretty sure I forgot some of what I was going to say, so I might edit this later or reblog it with the extra information.

I do want to say that I do NOT support being rude, sending hate comments or death threats to people who do ship this. Don't do that. Just wanted to say, just in case.

I also want to say that though I put "anti Billford" and "anti Billdip" in the tags, I'm pretty sure I'm not an anti, though I haven't been able to fully figure out what the term means.

Another addendum: I am NOT qualified to be talking about abuse.

This is just a theory.

how do i get these proships off my suggested stuff

Maybe it's because Shannon Messenger is blonde. (I think she's blonde, anyway.)

i just realized how there are so many blonde characters in kotlc

I had a dream and now I headcanon that Dipper is magic and has the power of coincidences, which is why so many cartoon plot things happen to him (like finding Journal 3 and the "ultimate power" inscription from the video game episode)

something something Grace's t-shirt being too large for her shoulders something something Simon's hoodie being too short for his arms

there's a metaphor about growing up somewhere in there, I think. maybe. idk

Ok so like (9.5 spoilers kinda?)

1. I've never understood the amount of hate Fitz gets. Like, yeah, he has flaws, but you know who else does? Literally every other character. Yes, even Keefe, who I love with my entire being. And it's completely fine to not like characters, I've just always felt like he gets a disproportionate amount of hate compared to everyone else.

2. Everyone is suddenly saying they love Alvar after Unravelled??? I understand he's "changed" now or whatever but.. he did so much to help the Neverseen and no amount of pancake-rambling from him will ever make me forget that. Sure, I hate him a little less now that he's settled down, but he's still not lovable (imo) and I thought it was really weird how much Keefe was just chilling with him in 9.5. I understand what Shannon was trying to do there but also.. it just didn't feel right to me. Especially when I see people brushing over all the stuff he did just because he's goofy now. Um.

3. PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY LOVE ALVAR MORE THAN FITZ??? I get it, you hate Fitz, but.. c'mon..

Also I'd like to clarify that in this post I'm talking about people loving Alvar and excusing his past actions, not his character in itself. I love Vespera's character, I think she's super cool and interesting, but I don't love her.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter because everyone can have their own opinion and that's the beauty of stories, and one of the best things about KOTLC is the huge range of characters, but I just thought I'd share my opinions on it. So yeah, absolutely no hate to these people, I just personally don't get it 😭

I mean my username is sort of a huge inside joke that no one gets. But I DO like cake . . .

Reblog this post to ask mutuals to tell you their weirdest theory about u

Here's the finished version . . . honestly not my favorite, but it's okay.

I was going to lament the complete lack of longer fics centered solely on Dipper and Mabel's relationship, before realizing that I have, in fact, read one story like that. However, Dipper was so traumatized he acted pretty different.

This is also the story that convinced me I shouldn't read main character death.