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Did any of you ever notice that Dean forces Sam into their hella’ toxic codependent relationship?

I feel like I’m over analyzing it, but the more I watch the show again from how Sam was with dean in the beginning to the end it makes me wonder 💭

Okay this isn’t like an anti Dean post it’s more looking at his psyche when it comes to Sam and other people it’s also a full rant and a mess of words I’m very sorry 💀✌️✨✨

Dean has told Sam multiple times he wants him to get out of this life get married have 2.5 kids all the snazzy stuff

But the minute Sam does exactly that gets out of the life gets with a girl all the stuff Dean wanted

———— This is me ranting about Sam ——

Also people keep forgetting Dean did the exact same thing with the whole lisa and Ben thing

Sam isn’t a terrible person for not spending his every waking moment to get Dean back as he was currently dealing with the fact Bobby died, His own mental health and thinking his best friend and Brother were dead

The last time Sam wanted to save his brother from death he was manipulated by ruby and became the literal terminator (twice because of the 6months alone in mystery spot)

Anyway this got way off topic my bad I just hate mischaracterization on sam and making dean look like this beacon of light who does no wrong (spoiler alert he does a lot of terrible things)

———- End of my rant of Sam ————-

Dean is more co dependent on Sam he needs him to even continue living without Sam there is no Dean he needs to be there for every moment of Sam’s life

It’s like when he got together with that one girl after Jessica’s death he was fine with it enthusiastic even but the minute he isn’t able to witness Sam falling for a girl

He goes batshit because he needs to know everything about Sam not even just to be straight sexual this is purely toxic codependency that we’ve seen time and time again with the Winchesters

Dean needs Sam to live but he wants Sam to be happy and get out of this life But at the same time he needs to be there for Sam every step of the way

Why do you think Sam leaving for Standford left such a big impact on him

His Sam the boy he’s been raising since he was a baby, the person he feels he has to protect with his life is leaving him not just the family he is actively on his own terms leaving Dean

Dean would do anything for family but what happens when the two people you love and care about walk opposite sides of life of wants and needs at that point he can’t bare to lose another family member he needs his father to stay to fill the whole Sam left

That’s until he leaves to without a second thought

Dean overall is a fucked up emotionally incestus individual because that’s all he knows.

To sacrifice his entire being for a single persons goal for another persons life

At the ages of 4+ he was told time and time again whatever happens look after Sam his life his being is to be Sam’s protector to him knowing Sam’s sex life who he’s with is normal why wouldn’t it be

He’s been with Sam forever to protect him Love him he knows everything about Sam but he can’t let Sam stray to far from him again he can’t mentally or emotionally handle it

That’s the end of this lovely rant I’m very sorry if things don’t make sense and there’s like no punctuation 💀✨

I support this movement

One day I'm going to rewatch Spn and make a list of everything Dean ever did wrong.

“Sammy is fourteen years old today…He’s got all the willpower us Winchesters are known for, but in him it sits quietly. You don’t notice it’s there until he decides he feels strongly enough about something that he won’t compromise. Then you might as well wrestle with angels.“ 

- John Winchester’s Journal 

what really gets me about sam hate is that 99% of the things he’s hated for, when applied to real life situations, are things that no-one should be hated for. not only that, but hating people for the things that sam is hated for would be considered victim blaming (that’s a mouthful)

hating someone for wanting to go to college and live their own life, instead of the unsafe and dangerous life their parent and sibling want them to live is not okay

hating someone for escaping an abusive household is not okay

hating someone for not trying to contact their family, after said family disowned them for going to college, is not okay

hating someone for having an addiction is not okay

hating someone for keeping something about themself a secret (especially if the person they’re keeping it secret from has previously shown how judgmental they are towards the things they’re hiding) is not okay

hating someone for trusting the wrong person, even tho that person went to extraordinary lengths to gain their trust, is not okay

hating someone for not blindly following their sibling’s every command is not okay

hating someone for unknowingly participating in causing something awful to happen, even tho they thought they were actually stopping the awful thing from happening, (especially when they willingly sacrificed themself and spend several lifetimes suffering in order to fix their mistake) is not okay

hating someone because they respected a mutual agreement and because they tried to move on with their life after losing someone is not okay

hating someone for trying to set boundaries after a person they trusted violated their bodily autonomy and for telling said person that they wouldn’t do the same thing to them is not okay

hating someone for expressing basic human emotions in a way that harms no-one is not okay

hating someone for standing up for themself is not okay

meanwhile 99% of the shit for which dean gets a pass, when applied to real life situations, would horrify any semi decent human being

telling your sibling that they deserved to be abused because they were out of line (in which being out of line actually means “you wanted to live your own life”) is not okay

vilifying someone for something they can’t change about themself is not okay

acting judgmental towards an aspect of someone’s life and then getting mad at them for keeping secrets regarding that same aspect is not okay

using someone’s faith to manipulate them into doing what you want is not okay

getting mad at someone for saving people’s lives, because you don’t like the method they’re using, is not okay

forcing someone into a torture-detox that almost kills them, then stalking them, calling them names, forcing them to choose between blindly following your every command and saving the world and then reducing the whole thing to “you chose someone else over me” is not okay

blaming someone for something you both unknowingly had a hand in, without taking responsibility for your own contribution, is not okay

deliberately hurting someone because their happy memories don’t include you is not okay

erasing someone’s memory without their consent is not okay

making someone’s mental illness all about yourself is not okay

blaming someone because another person cut their arm off (idk, this is the closest real life analogy to the soulless situation I can think of) is not okay

getting mad at someone for honouring a mutual agreement, berating them for leaving a job (a job you yourself had previously left) and going as far as shaming them for doing something as normal as shopping for produce instead of working is not okay

forcing someone to stay in a job they’re unhappy with is not okay

making someone think the person they love is in danger (especially if that someone already has a history of people they care about dying) is not okay

violating someone’s bodily autonomy and tricking them into allowing a foreign being inside their body without their consent, gaslighting them about it for months, making disgusting jokes about said violation, refusing to see the violated person’s point when they’re rightfully upset and not acknowledging that what you did was wrong, even after you went through the same experience, is not okay

telling someone that the upside of them being alive is that you need a sidekick is not okay

telling someone you wish they were dead is not okay

killing an innocent kid because of who their family is is not okay

literally trying to kill your sibling, repeatedly, is not okay (and I can’t believe I actually have to write this because the extents to which people will go to defend dean’s every action is /that/ ridiculous)

having a consistent pattern of doing things that you previously berated other people for doing is not okay

being misogynist, homophobic, ableist and racist because ~that’s just the way you were raised~ is not okay

trying to kill a child, telling said child that you will kill them and emotionally and verbally abusing them to the point of pushing them to self harm, because circumstances regarding their birth led to the death of people you care about and because their biological father is evil (two things they absolutely have no control over) is not okay

threatening a teenage girl with a gun because she doesn’t want to help you is not okay

acting entitled to know every detail about someone else’s life and getting mad at them for keeping secrets about themselves, all while you’re constantly keeping secrets, even about other people, is not okay

anyway my point is: sam hate isn’t actually about his actions, it’s about how the show and dean portray these actions. while dean negativity/hate (as rare as it is) is about his actions being objectively horrid

https://at.tumblr.com/deanisatopdom/yes-sams-a-real-selfish-asshole-is-basically/3tvhzs7phyoj

What are your thoughts on this? First I was surprised to see it was jackles who said this considering the show was focused more on dean for the longest time. Feels like he really does need to be the single lead by himself, would explain the whole The Winchesters mess

All that interview tells me is that Jensen doesn't understand basic storytelling and the role of a protagonist and supporting protagonist.

Did Sam think of himself? Sure, because he wanted safety, away from the family business. But just because the storyline revolves around one character for a while doesn't mean that the character is selfish. It just means the character has more of a story that needs to be told. Supernatural is Sam's hero's journey from overcoming all the obstacles to accepting his life and finally being rewarded with what he always wanted, a stable home life, but at a very high cost - the loss of the one person closest to him.

The fact that the Dean-centric storylines were the lowest-rated in the series should have clued Jensen in to the fact that people didn't tune in for Dean's journey. In fact, all the Dean-centric stories - purgatory, Demon Dean, Michael Dean - none of them produced any real change or growth in Dean. People were annoyed that you could barely tell a difference between MOC Dean and the real Dean the characters were so similar. Dean never really went evil, or had to suffer the guilt because of it. And by the end of the series, the only real growth Dean had obtained revolved around Sam and accepting Sam's autonomy.

I think there's some real insecurity there for Jensen to want to be the lead protagonist in SPN for so long and pushing for it even though it didn't serve the story. A secure actor would recognize their role as a supporting protagonist as being equally as important as the protagonist because it allows the audience to connect with the protagonist through the supporter's view. But, for whatever reason, he couldn't recognize Dean's importance to Sam's story and that's too bad.

And yes, I believe that insecurity has led us directly into TW, where it's becoming quite clear that the entire show is starting to revolve around Dean, thereby making Dean possibly the most important character.

Did they think we forgot??? 💀💀

wincest shippers when someone points out sam and dean are brothers

sam + lack of bodily autonomy?

This one is a little silly, but it does address the lack of bodily autonomy.  I hope it suits.  

           Thegod recoiled from Sam.  “What even areyou?”

           Deanrolled his eyes.  “Here we go again.  He’s a hunter,” he explained in a loud, slowvoice, the kind that people use when they speak to someone who they thinkdoesn’t understand their language.  “He’sa hunter.  Do you understand what thatmeans?”  He turned to Sam.  “Sam. You – hunter.  Him – god.  Make with the stabbing already, there’s abarstool with my name all over it.”  

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you know what’s really sexy? the fact that sam stans can easily defend sam and give valid reasonings to his actions without screaming and crying about how he had an awful childhood

meanwhile dean stans can’t say two sentences without going “ueue poor deanie weenie had such an awful childhood :(( john is the worst :(( it’s all john’s fault :(( dean’s grown-up ass has no responsibility for his actions :(( because woobie dean has self worth issues :((((( boohoo :(( he STARVED for MONTHS so sammy’s selfish, ungrateful ass could eat at a five stars restaurant :(((”

even tho they had the exact same father and the same childhood (I might even go as far as saying that sam had it worse, but I’m not gonna go there now)

Honestly looks like Jared tries to hook Jensen in by the back of his neck for a kiss and then remembers that they're in front of people.

Update: And then the way Jensen shuts his eyes and holds him all tight and close, like IMAGINING Jared had kissed him.

THE EYE FUCKING

Omg, that tongue out. Phwoar. Legit looks like Jensen is on Spring break, participated in a wet T-Shirt contest (that Jared was of course there to watch and enjoy) and Jensen is now going to chug at least one - or both - of those bottles and make some very bad decisions involving Jared.