for all it seems like they enjoy talking about how they're pushing forwards theory and advancing the understanding of transphobia etc by... let's see... claiming that trans women are the most oppressed and should always get priority, that trans mascs are bad and untrustworthy because men bad, and that any trans women who disagree with them must not actually be trans women... hm.
...despite those, uh, self-evidently "effective" methods of advancing understanding of trans issues, i find myself wondering.
do trfs understand ideas as basic as "misgendering trans people is bad"? like. they clearly understand "misgendering trans women is bad", but do they understand that it's because it's a specific example of "denial of the agency and identity of trans people as a whole", rather than because "men bad yuck gross"?
they seem to be aware for the most part that trans women are often treated as whatever gender is convenient for bigots and bigoted systems to harm them, but do they understand that that happens to trans people as a whole? that when, say, trans men are framed as "women" by society, it's usually not to their benefit? that erasure is, in fact, a thing that happens to trans people?
if the conclusions they're led to by their theory leave me wondering if they're aware of some of the most obvious, simple, and basic elements of, you know, transphobia... maybe that theory isn't very good.
do trfs understand ideas as basic as "misgendering trans people is bad"?
Let's ask!
@fleshengine Was thicced-witch wrong to do this, or do you still trust she had a good reason?
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Idk but the idea that trans men commonly enter terf spaces on purpose & then get detransed & indoctrinated into terfism seems way less believable to me than that spaces for cis people will inevitably have some ppl realize they're trans & if the space in question is a radical feminist one, they will be targeted with some absolutely devastatingly horrific abuse that will keep them in the closet & cause them serious harm, & radical feminism like any hateful ideology is very attractive to wounded, traumatized people.
i am a child.
i am forced into a dress. makeup is smeared onto my face. i kick and cry and beg, but they will not stop.
i am forced to pose in front of the camera with my thighs together and hope that the makeup hides my tearstains. i must be the perfect picture of femininity; innocent, untouched.
i already have a thousand hand prints on me.
'all men are evil rapists', i am told.
i think about my friends, who are men. the men who called me every day while i was in a psychiatric hospital. the men who walked me home when i was afraid. the men who protected and cared for me, without ever expecting my body in return.
it can't be the body that makes someone evil. it can't be the presence of a penis that makes someone evil. but it can't be the identity of 'man' that makes you evil, either.
i ponder the difference between the men who raped me and the men who protected me. i decide that it depends on who the person is inside, and not on their identity.
'sit down and shut up,' they spit at me. 'the men are talking. learn your place. don't speak over us.'
'you throw like a girl.'
'you run like a girl.'
'girls can't do this. they're not smart enough.'
'girls aren't strong enough to do this.'
over and over, such sentiments are tossed at me. i bite down my anger, because women aren't supposed to yell or get angry. if i get angry, that makes me a hysterical bitch.
'women are meant to be mothers,' i am told. they beat it into me that my worth lies not in my personhood, but in the womb between my hips. it makes me feel sick and violated, just like every sexual assault has.
i am groped. i am raped. i am assaulted.
it's my fault, i'm told. i'm a temptress. my body is a vile weapon, a weapon created to tempt men into sin, a weapon that makes me a subhuman toy.
i am treated like a toy. as i am molested during my childhood, i learn that i am a toy. the anatomy between my hips has marked me as public property. i am less than human.
they keep forcing me into dresses. they keep forcing me into makeup. no amount of protesting makes it end. i grow to loathe femininity and the violation that always seems to come with it.
i come out as a trans man at fifteen.
'can't you just be nonbinary?'
'can't you just be a tomboy?'
'i don't want you to regret this.'
'i don't want you to ruin your perfect body.'
'men are disgusting. why do you want to be one of them?'
'are you sure you don't just want to be a man because you were sexually assaulted?'
i continue to be a man. my parents intentionally delay my ability to go on testosterone. by the time i am able to go on testosterone, i have already finished puberty. my body is irreversibly feminine.
people throw food at me. they call me a faggot, a tranny, a dyke. they kick me and shove me to the ground. they cyberstalk me. they post pictures of me online so that they can mock me.
a girl says to me, 'you need to learn your place,' as she calls me a faggot over the internet. she kicks me when she sees me the next day.
my boyfriend when i am fifteen is a cis man who says he is pansexual. he dismisses me when i talk about being trans, because he uses he/they pronouns and 'understands it'.
he sexually assaults me repeatedly. i am in constant distress. my distress is used as proof that i am a snowflake hysterical tranny. i am a hysterical woman who only THINKS she's a man, and i need to be put in my place. trans 'men' are all hysterical and overreactive, and my behaviour is used as proof.
my boyfriend exclusively refers to me with they/them pronouns. i tell him to use he/him. he waves his hand, dismissing my words, and says, 'they're basically the same thing'.
he tells me that he wants children. i try to ignore the sick feeling in my gut.
he only uses he/him pronouns for me after we have broken up, when he is trying to paint me as abusive. i lose my entire friend group because of it.
people keep talking down to me. when i go on testosterone, cis men try to explain that it's toxic for me, using cis man bodybuilders as an example. i try to explain how that isn't the case. they insist that 'female bodies aren't built to handle testosterone'. i try to explain to them how hormones work, and they laugh and roll their eyes.
silly girl. stupid girl. she doesn't know what she's talking about.
people continue to make fun of trans men online. our music, our art, our interests, our fashion sense, our names. i cannot help but feel dejected. all i want is to be a man, and to fit in among everyone else, but even in doing so, i stand out as a target for mockery. misogyny is inescapable, even for men.
i am seventeen years old. my worst fear comes true. i am raped and forcibly impregnated, with the intention of forcing me to detransition.
that sense of violation is impossible to truly describe.
my reproductive system was designed to become pregnant. my body will do its best to become pregnant, no matter what i want. pregnancy is an inescapable function of my body, and it makes me feel trapped and sick.
the man who raped me has turned my own body into a weapon against me. even in my body, my own flesh and sinew, i am not safe.
i miscarry. i am in agony. my womb cramps and i try not to pass out.
i enter feminist spaces. i try to talk about my experiences with misogyny.
'sit down and shut up,' they spit at me. 'the women are talking. learn your place. don't speak over us.'
all trans men have male privilege, you see, without exception. by the mere act of wanting to become a man, i have become a traitor, and i am thrown to the cis men.
the cis men, who see me as a woman that they're finally allowed to abuse. finally, they can hurt and rape and impregnate a woman, because she's one of those snowflake trannies and she needs to be put in her place.
i bite down my anger, because trans men aren't supposed to yell or get angry. if i get angry, it's proof that i'm not a man, that i'm a hysterical bitch, and that i'm a dangerous snowflake tranny seeking to mutilate children.
the sentiment is bitterly familiar.
Seeing shit that completely rewrites recent online trans history makes me so frustrated because I was there!!!!!!
Like what do you mean "theyfab was coined by frustrated transfems to express their frustration with transmisogynist nonbinary people"???? I was literally getting called a transtrender theyfab by 4channers as a 15 year old in 2013 because I was a feminine nonbinary kid with a dyed undercut??? In 2016 I was a shithead 18 year old that hated itself and was calling other trans people transtrender theyfabs to try and validate myself????????
It's literally a term born out of misogyny and the idea that feminine nonbinary people who were afab are faking being trans???????????
I didn't escape the depths of 2010's transmedicalism in my early 20's and start dedicating my time towards trying to repair the damage I and others caused just for y'all to completely rewrite that history to try and justify your own hatred of other trans people đ
Whenever I see people talking about trans men not being oppressed, I remember that video I saw a few years back when an older trans woman was asked why there weren't more trans men from her generation and she said they were still forced into the roles of women and took their own lives because of it.
And of course it would be ridiculous to ever believe that transphobia and misogyny could ever intersect in a way specific to their trans identity
"trans men only ever experience transphobia and misogyny" and as we all know those two things never intersect (sarcasm)
If you rrrrreally truly believe in the "evil" of transmascs and their "grabs for gendered power," if you legitimately fear trans men, that's a lot worse for you because it's like, okay, well, good luck with that. I don't really care and no one really should, get over your bizarre personal issues on your own time and then when you're done you can intern for the people agitating for actual transfeminist change in the world since you seem far enough behind that fetching me coffee seems like it might be the zenth of your potential until we can catch you up on remedial praxis.
And don't even start saying I must mean it's ridiculous to be scared of trans men in a bioessentialist way, as though this is me ranking physical strength via AGAB. Any individual transmasc could shoot me or stab me or strangle me with piano wire or indeed, beat me to death with their fists, so could a lot of people, and yet trans men are overwhelmingly supportive allies.
I like it black btw.
why are people so willing to throw young transmascs under the bus :( feels like our own community still sees us as hysterical girls that canât be trusted to make our own choices
the spectre of "transmasculinity as a disease which corrupts the purity of cis girlhood" remains strong I see.
Also "testosterone works just as well at 25" GIRL THE GROWTH PLATES. GIRL THE HIP BONES.
So far, 3 of the Trump-pardoned Jan 6th MAGA terrorists have since been arrested on child porn charges. another one killed someone driving drunk the wrong way on a freeway
"We don't want no Zionists here" is not a righteous political slogan.Â
Every single country that has ever outlawed Zionism went on to persecute, abuse, and even expel its Jewish populationâŚwhether said Jews identified as Zionists or not.Â
This is one of the many reasons Jewish historical literacy is so important.
IRAQ
When Israel declared its independence in 1948, Zionism became a capital crime in Iraq. However, Iraqâs persecution of âZionistsâ dated back to the 1930s; for example, in 1935, all Palestinian Jewish* Hebrew teachers were deported and the head of the Iraqi Zionist organization was put on trial.
For a Jew to be convicted of the crime of âZionism,â they only had to be denounced by two Muslims, and there was no system of appeal. Under the guise of anti-Zionism, Jews in Iraq were systematically charged with treason, dismissed from their jobs, arrested on trumped up charges, tortured, and even executed. Oftentimes, their assets were seized, totaling around $80 million.Â
The âproofâ that a Jew was a âZionistâ was often tenuous at best. For example, in one case, a Jewish man was sentenced to five years of forced labor because he owned a Biblical Hebrew inscription, which his accusers falsely claimed was a âcoded Zionist message.â
While the Iraqi government claimed to go after âZionists,âanti-Zionist and non-Zionist Jews were not spared.The most prominent case was that of Shafiq Ades, who had long been openly anti-Zionist. Ades was arrested on charges that he had sold arms to Israel. He was not allowed the right to a defense and was tried and convicted in a show trial. He was publicly executed on September 23, 1948, to a crowd of 12,000 onlookers.
By the early 1950s, 120,000-130,000 out of 150,000 Iraqi Jews had fled Iraq. By 1967, only 3,000 Jews remained in Iraq. Nevertheless, following the Arab countriesâ defeat in the 1967 Six Day War, the Iraqi government amped up its crackdown on âZionism.â
As part of this crackdown, Jews were dismissed from their jobs, their bank accounts were frozen, and they were confined to house arrest.Â
In 1968, the new socialist Baâathist regime announced that they were âhunting down an American-Israeli spy ringâ that was supposedly trying to destabilize Iraq. Twelve people -- nine of them Jews -- were arrested. The Jews were hung publicly in January 1969 without trial to a dancing crowd of 500,000 people. Another 40 Jews were âdisappearedâ by the secret police; in total, some 100 Jews out of the community of 3,000 were imprisoned and tortured in 1969 alone.Â
These Jews were accused and convicted of Zionism, treason, and spying not based on legitimate evidence, but rather, entirely arbitrarily. For example, Daoud Ghali Yadgar was one of the nine Jews who were hanged in 1969. In 2019, his cousin, Nitzan Hadad, explained: âSoldiers had entered their home looking for the eldest son, who was in London studying. When they asked who was at home, my aunt replied that her other son, Daoud, was home. So they took Daoud instead and accused him of spying for Israel.â
*At the time, any citizen of the British Mandate of Palestine was known as a âPalestinian,â regardless of their ethnic or religious background.
EGYPT
Egypt, too, claimed to crack down on âZionists,â but in reality made virtually no effort to distinguish between Zionists and Jews. In 1947, the Egyptian prime minister told the British ambassador, âAll Jews are potential Zionists [and] ...anyhow all Zionists are Communists.â
After Israel's independence, scores of Jews were arrested and imprisoned in Abu Qir detention camp. Professor Chacham Choureka, who was later arrested in the 1950s, described the situation, noting, âThe authorities didn't differentiate between teaching Judaism and Zionist activity. In reality though, part of teaching Torah is about Israel.â
As in Iraq, the anti-Zionist incitement in Egypt led to a number of repressive policies, arrests, and more. The 1956 Suez Crisis between Israel, Egypt, France, and Great Britain further exacerbated the already precarious situation. Once again, the Egyptian government made its position clear, declaring that âall Jews are Zionists and enemies of the state.â Thousands of Jews were then imprisoned on âZionismâ charges or removed from their jobs. Ironically, prominent anti-Zionist Jews also suffered the same consequences.
THE SOVIET UNION
The Soviets considered all forms of non-Russian nationalism â including Zionism â a threat to their budding communist empire. In 1918, the midst of the Russian Civil War, the Soviet Communist Party established a âJewish branch,â with the consent of Vladimir Lenin. It was named âYevsetskiya,â meaning âJewish Sections of the Communist Party.â
The mission of the Yevsetskiya was, quite literally, the âdestruction of traditional Jewish life, the Zionist movement, and Hebrew culture.â In other words, this Jewish branch of the Soviet government was dedicated solely to the destruction of fellow Soviet Jewry. Until their dissolution in 1929, they imprisoned, tortured, and murdered thousands of Jews. According to historian of Soviet history Richard Pipes, âIn time, every Jewish cultural and social organization came under assault.â
As early as 1934, the Soviets presented the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, a region in the Russian Far East, as an âalternativeâ to Zionism. Despite rosy Soviet government propaganda, the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, located along the Russia-China border, was nearly impossible to cultivate for non-natives to the region and practically inhospitable. Though the government never outrightly admitted it, the Jewish population transfers to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast were a form of forced deportation, similar to other population transfers of ethnic minorities in the Soviet Union.
Post-World War II, Jews in the far-flung republics Azeri and Uzbek republics of the Soviet Union were forced to attend anti-Zionist demonstrations, where they were made to publicly disavow Israel and Zionism under threat of arrest, deportation to gulags, or worse.
The Sovietsâ âanti-Zionistâ campaign culminated in the Doctorsâ Plot, when âZionistâ Jewish doctors were arrested, tortured, and executed on entirely fake charges that they had plotted to assassinate Stalin. Some historians believe that this was only part of a wider plan for the ethnic cleansing of the Soviet Jewish populationâŚall under the guise of anti-Zionism. However, due to Stalinâs sudden death, the plan was ultimately never carried out.
The Soviets were interestingly never covert about the fact that their âanti-Zionistâ campaigns were actually just antisemitic. In the 1960s, Soviet propaganda made blatantly antisemitic claims, including: âThe character of the Jewish religion serves the political aims of the Zionists,â âZionism is inextricable from Judaism, rooted in the idea of the exclusiveness of the Jewish People,â comparisons of Judaism to the Italian mafia, and claims that Israel was merely a means to an end of Jewish imperialism and world domination.
The repression of Soviet Jewry under the guise of âZionismâ only intensified after the 1967 Six Day War. Jewish cultural and religious life was highly restricted. Virtually every institution in Soviet society heavily discriminated against the Jewish population; for example, Jews were subject to highly restrictive university quotas. This placed Jews in a catch-22: on the one hand, they were not free to live as Jews; on the other, they were also barred from integrating as Soviet citizens.Â
For this reason, hundreds of thousands of Jews were desperate to flee the Soviet Union. Requesting exit visas was considered an act of treason. In order to apply for exit visas, Jews first had to quit their jobs; however, this put them at risk of being accused of âsocial parasitism,â which was considered a crime. After having their visas refused, Jews were also then prevented from obtaining new work. Then, this joblessness was criminalized. Soviet Jews were stuck in an impossible living situation.
POLAND
n 1968, a series of student-led protests broke out against the Communist government of Poland. The Polish government responded to the instability by scapegoating their now tiny post-Holocaust Jewish community, enacting a a massive âanti-Zionistâ propaganda campaign, spreading conspiracies that Zionist were plotting to take over Poland.Â
The Polish public was then forced to renounce Zionism, and Jews, whether they identified as Zionists or not, were purged from their positions in the government and other sectors, accused of holding dual loyalties to Israel. Many were arrested, beaten, and tortured. In its efforts, the Polish government created lists of Jews, eerily echoing the policies in Poland under Nazi occupation just several decades prior.
As a result of these campaigns, 15,000 out of 25,000-30,000 Jews in Poland were stripped of their Polish citizenship. The 1968 Polish political crisis is sometimes called a âsymbolic pogromâ because Jews experienced such severe disenfranchisement that many took their lives in a string of suicides.
ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN
According to Iranian-American policy analyst Karim Sadjapour, the three ideological pillars of the Iranian regime are âcompulsory hijab, death to America, and death to Israel.âÂ
Immediately after the Iranian Revolution and the rise of the Islamic Republic to power, the Israeli embassy in Tehran was attacked and turned into the Palestinian embassy. To this day, the Islamic Republic has erected an âIsrael annihilation clockâ in Tehran, counting down the days to Israelâs supposed destruction. Incitement against âZionistsâ and the âZionist entityâ is commonplace in Islamic Republic political discourse; for example, in 2006, then-president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stated, âThe Zionist regime will be wiped out, and humanity will be liberated.âÂ
About a month after the Islamic Republic came into power, the Ayatollah Khomeini made an example of a prominent Jewish community leader, Habib Elghanian, by accusing him of âZionist espionage.âHe was arrested, tried in a sham trial that lasted less than 20 minutes, and executed by firing squad.
Incidents such as this one prompted 80% of Iranâs ancient Jewish population to flee the country. Today, the 8,500 Jews still living in Iran are subject to second-class citizenship and are constantly under the suspicion of the regime, for which they must tread carefully, never openly criticizing the regimeâs implementation of Sharia Law or revealing any ties -- however tenuous -- to Zionism or the State of Israel.
ETHIOPIA
In the late 1970s, a new Marxist government rose to power in Ethiopia. An antisemitic, anti-government right-wing group began a killing spree in 1978, cutting childrenâs feet off, bludgeoning babies, castrating men, raping women, torturing elders, and selling women and children into slavery.
Instead of condemning the attacks, the Ethiopian government decided to crack down on its Jewish community. They claimed to do so in the name of combatting âZionist propaganda.â
Because of the worsening conditions, Ethiopian Jews tried to flee to Israel. As a punishment for âZionism,â Jews were collectively arrested, tortured, and hung.
LIBYA
After the establishment of the State of Israel, Libya criminalized individuals who communicated with anyone in Israel, creating a difficult situation for Libyan Jews, most of whom have family in the Jewish state. By 1961, all but six members of the ancient Libyan Jewish community were denied Libyan citizenship.
OTHER
A number of other countries, such as Pakistan and Algeria, have passed laws criminalizing Zionism after the entire Jewish community was already expelled or fled from the country. In Pakistan, the criminalization of âZionismâ means that carrying a Jewish symbol like the Star of David can land you in prison.
SOME TAKEAWAYS
(1) Zionism is a political movementâŚa political movement, which, whether you like it or not, is objectively rooted in 3000 years of Jewish history, culture, and tradition. Anti-Zionists overwhelmingly reject not only Zionism as a political movement, but the 3000 years of Jewish history, culture, and tradition that precede it, because such history, culture, and tradition may provide an âexplanationâ or âjustificationâ for Zionism. Therefore, itâs no surprise that, for example, a Jewish man in Iraq was charged with the crime of Zionism for owning a Biblical Hebrew inscription or that the Egyptian authorities did not differentiate between Zionist activism and teaching about Judaism. History shows us that crackdowns on âZionismâ always, without fail, turn into crackdowns of any and all expression of Jewish identity (which is precisely why anti-Israel protestors were shouting âwe donât want no Zionists hereâ in front of a Jewish hospital, which has no specific ties to Israel or Zionism).Â
(2) Polls consistently show that between 80-97% of Jews identify as Zionists and/or believe in the State of Israelâs right to exist. There isnât much difference between marginalizing 80-97% of Jews and marginalizing allJews.Â
Perhaps itâs time to consider that the overwhelming majority of Jews identify as Zionists not because we are collectively evil, but rather, based on our own experiences and understanding of our history, identity, and tradition. Perhaps itâs time to consider that you donât understand how Zionists define their Zionism.
(3) When you donât want âZionistsâ in Israel and you donât want âZionistsâ wherever else it is you live, perhaps the problem is not where we live, but that we live.
Anti-Zionists claim anti-Zionism is not antisemitism, and yet, every single "anti-Zionist" campaign in history has resulted in antisemitism.
After everything our own parents and grandparents went through, why should we trust that your anti-Zionist campaign is any different?
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Jewish historical literacy is knowing that once they start going after âZionists,â anti-Zionist Jews wonât be spared, either. So have some self-respect and stop groveling to people who hate everything about your Jewish identity.
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