I Think I Made A Meme?

@elliot-osks2 shit

woah somebody tagged me in something? that’s weird lol- thanks! :D

Favorite color: uhhh I don’t really have one? I like rainbows though

Top 3 ships: 3- Jopper (Joyce x Hopper) from Stranger Things  2- Boyf riends (Jeremy Heere x Michael Mell) from Be More Chill    1- Literally every ship from Sanders Sides :P (though LAMP/DLAMP, Dukeceit, Roceit and Logince have a special place in my heart) (and screw RemRom)

Lipstick or Chapstick: Chapstick since I don’t care for lipstick

Last Song: Hobo Johnson - Typical Story (weird time for me to be doing this since this is like, the only rap song I listen to and it doesn’t represent my music taste whatsoever lol)

Last Movie: Finding Nemo!!

Currently Reading: Dracula by Bram Stoker (I have 50 pages left but I’ve been procrastinating reading it lol)

Tag 9 People: ....well I don’t have enough social confidence for that lol but I think @hxlfblood-of-hermes won’t mind being tagged so I’ll just do them :P

Get to know me game

I got tagged by @thaldy uwu (starting a new thread to keep the post short)

Favorite color: pastel bluish greens like light aqua or mint green!

Top 3 ships: Me x A Compassionate Clown Husband x A beautiful Acrobatic Wife (irl), jonmartin (tma), and tododeku (bnha). I’m a multi shipper all the way so if it’s cute and not creepy I’m probably chill with it

Lipstick or chapstick: love the drama of dark lipstick

Last song: The Phantom Of The Opera (Nightwish cover)

Last Movie: Your Name

Currently Reading: research on echolalia and autism lol

Tag 9 people:

@wearing-a-papermask @murder-and-sparkles @cabbagelovesyou @letsgetthisoverwith

Jdhdjd I’m too nervous to bug any other mutuals so that’s all ✌️

Mh I know this is controversial but can I just say that people who genuinely questioned their sexuality only to realize they’re straight exist and we aren’t homophobic or closeted gays or bigots

working on an edit rn and oh god kill me im still only on the intro and i already have a headache

....or maybe thats bc i havent eaten today. yeah its probs that lol

BUT STILL, this is still more difficult than i thought it was going to be :P

my brain isn’t working right now and i should go to bed but here’s a parody of ‘i’ll quit singing’ by fukase but it’s w/ janus (i didn’t change a bunch of the lyrics because they fit well but i changed some)

I am done!

I am through!

I am just sick of it all!

Why do people keep comparing me to these motherfuckers?

I am done!

I am through!

I am so sick of the ships!

And stop asking me why I have some scales!

What the fuck?

Ever since Thomas had created me,

I knew that people would be asking me

Why I was made with a weird design,

Well, like hell if I know!

I am always paired up with Remus

Oh dear god, can you please stop, he’s so gross…! (Please?)

So don’t you dare even ask for my name

Because get it right, my name is

I WON’T SAY, 

Fuck you

Why do I always have to be compared to that virgin?

Honestly, my style is way better than his 

So why must they keep on bitching as though we were the same

Well that spider bitch 

Can go fuck himself because I’m

The fan-favorite now!

I am done!

I am though!

Just give me a fucking break!

I cannot keep on being the only smart one in Thomas’ brain

I am done!

I am through!

I won’t keep supporting you!

I just wanted to hang and help you out a bit

Fuck you all…

I am done!

I am though!

Fuck you all,

I am fucking

FABULOUS and you know it, bitch

Oh shit, I am out of words…

Fuck it all!

Fuck it all! 

Fuck it all, 

I’m really tired,

Go fuck yourself!

I swear this started out as perspective practice

So I'm probably not the first to wonder this but... before Roman and Remus split (I'm assuming they split around 2-3 yrs of age since I read that a little before age 2 is when children develop a sense of right and wrong, and around 3 is when people claim their first memory is (and Roman said he could remember a little bit before the split)), did whoever they were rise up (like light sides) or just appear (like dark sides)? Cause the most logical idea is that whoever they were could comfortably do both, right? 

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

If Deceit doesn’t get a redemption arc, or the sides don’t start at least /trying/ to listening to him, I will be so pissed off. Mainly because Deceit is in the exact same position that Virgil was in when he was first introduced to the series, and Virgil is the one giving him the /least/ amount of respect. 

Right, let me paint a picture in your head. You are known by those around you as someone who hurts others, brings them down, and makes them unsure of themselves. You finally decide to reveal yourself to an audience of people, your entrance less than grateful. The ones who know you as ‘horrible’ continue to be rude to you, and though you find a lot of enjoyment in making them mad, a small part of you wants to be accepted. 

Who does that description apply to? Virgil and Deceit? Well, it’s BOTH.  

Right now, Deceit’s in the spot Virgil was in when the others still didn’t trust him much, like in “A New Year of Lying to Myself... In Song!!” Both giving advice to help Thomas and make him more truthful to himself, having one person hate them more than the others (for Virgil that was Roman, for Deceit it was Virgil). Deceit’s in the same boat Virgil was in. So, if they follow the same pattern, Deceit should start being trusted more in the next few episodes... right?

Well, the main difference that might stop that is that fact that Deceit doesn’t have a ‘Patton’; the one person that even though they might not fully agree with what you are doing stills treats you nicely and with respect (the first time Patton speaks directly to Virgil is in “I’M IN A DISNEY SHOW!!!!,” saying, “Anxiety, leave him alone...” but he doesn’t /yell/ at Virgil; he says it with a smile and politely raises his hand) (Also, the others don’t treat Deceit nicely either. When Patton is up to the stand with Deceit as witness, he says he needs to “Just get this over with.”). 

VIRGIL should be Deceit’s ‘Patton’; saying things like, “Come on guys, just listen to him. You guys listened to me when I first came around, we should do the same for him.” But NO. Virgil treats Deceit with such rudeness that it appalls me. 

“But Deceit probably hurt Virgil! The others knew about how bad Deceit was and not Virgil!”

That’s untrue. Virgil’s first video, the second Roman notices Virgil, he says, “Oooh, okay, I can’t stand that guy.” Roman, Patton, and Logan are all aware of both Virgil and Deceit’s existence, and the three know that they are ‘bad’.

If nobody even bothers to attempt to listen to him, clocking out might not even work because nobody would even care. 

Sorry, this got overly long. I’m just kind of mad at the ‘Light Sides’ atm. Feel free to debate about this with me.

Selfishness VS Selflessness was good and all but

The final decision was so, so, so wrong.

Thomas should’ve gone to do the callback. He should’ve gone to try to get the role.

And they should’ve listened more to Deceit.

I understand.

Believe me: I understand that the wedding was important, it is one of the most important moments of one’s life.

But the thing is? Thomas shouldn’t have gone.

1) Deceit was right since the beginning. Thomas didn’t want to go to the wedding from the very first moment.

“Admit it! What am I doing here right now, Thomas? Am I the snake coming to trick you into sinning? Or have you had your mind made up since the moment you receveid the news about the callback? You didn’t even forget about the wedding, did you? IT WAS ALL AN ACT!” (Deceit, 34:26 - 34:43)

“FINE! I WANT TO GO TO THE CALLBACK!” (Thomas, the moment after)

And why is that? Well, Thomas made it perfectly clear.

He didn’t want to go because he would’ve been playing games on his phone for the whole time (and no shade, that’s pretty disrepectful?) because he didn’t want to be shoven in his own face the fact that he is still single while his friends are getting married. He said he’s afraid to go.

He’s so romantic, as Roman shows us, and so affectionate, as Patton displays. And in Moving On, he made clear that his breakup was a massive, heartcrushing thing for him. And the fact that he hasn’t been able to find love again makes him almost miserable.

“And on top of that, a dream come true falling into my lap scheduled on the same day! ANYONE would want to go to the callback!” (Thomas, 34:55)

He’s destroyed by the whole situation.

2) “So yeah! I tried to force myself to forget about the wedding, and now I wanna lie to my friends so they don’t HATE ME for not supporting them!” (Thomas, following the line above)

That’s bad. That’s really bad.

Thomas didn’t have to lie. Lying was something that Roman brought up. Lying was something that Thomas thought about.

Lying was never anything that Deceit proposed throughout the whole video.

Why is that bad?

Because that’s not Selflessness. That’s self-destruction.

Thomas has to learn that he CAN’T always put others first.

Sure! His friends will be upset about the fact that he isn’t able to come to their special day! But Guess What?? If they truly support him, they will encourage him to go to the callback and follow his drams! They would push him to do what’s best for himself!!

Because if they don’t do that, they are not good friends. Thomas is not skipping the wedding because he doesn’t feel like it, but because he has a life-changing opportunity going on! And if they don’t at least try to understand and don’t get mad because they know how much acting means to Thomas, they are selfish. They are not good friends.

3) “How would you feel about that?” (Patton, telling Roman that Imaginary!Eliza wouldn’t go to his imaginary wedding because she had others things to do, 25:39)

“It wouldn’t bother me. Her not being there doesn’t change the fact that it’s MY big day.” (Roman, in response.)

“You wouldn’t miss ‘Liza May Manelly?” (Patton)

“SOOOOO? I would be devasted! But you know what?? She is her own person, and she has her own life, I can’t take that from her. Her being at the wedding is for me. And if I forced her to be there, when she didn’t want to go, then I would be the selfish one.” (Roman)

Thomas wouldn’t be selfish. Their friends would be.

If you always, always put others first, you’ll never take care of yourself. You can’t always be the best person for others, sometimes you have to be a good person for yourself, if it for a good reason.

About Deceit:

¾) Thomas and the ‘Light Sides’ stopped listening to Deceit after a bit. When was that? When Thomas acknowledged that Deceit had been right the whole time, and ROMAN NEEDS TO GET HIMSELF TOGETHER.

And they never let him explain the actual point of what he was trying to do.

“It’s my sworn duty to help Thomas achieve his hopes and dreams. But Thomas wouldn’t dream of attaining his hopes through deceitful means.” (Roman right after the sentence, 34:25)

“BUT THAT’S NOT TRUE!” (Deceit)

Look at his face as he says “That’s not true.” He’s helpless. They stopped listening to his point of view and are back on the fact that he is Deceit, and deceit only. He doesn’t know what to do to be heard anymore.

Roman??? Sweetie??? You were the first one to suggest to lie and say Aunt Patty was at the ospital?? In ‘Can LYING Be Good?’ he was the one that supported lying to Joan???

He shouldn’t have said that phrase while blaming Deceit for it, since HE was the one that suggested deceitful means in the first place.

“I don’t understand. You got what you wanted. You proved that I’m not as honest as I’d like to believe.” (Thomas, 36:40)

“But you’re STILL missing the point!” (Deceit)

He’s struggling because they won’t listen. They don’t want to listen.

“Okay, let me put it this way! Life is like a piñata!” (Deceit)

He’s trying to make it as simple as possible so they will listen and understand like Roman did about the compromising thing.

Deceit explains that if you take the blindfond off, it will be easier to get the piñata. And what do they get out of it?

That he suggesting of beating up someone and rob their unconcious body.

“NO!!”

He’s literally chocked. They are twisting his every word AGAINST him.

“I’m trying to teach you a lesson, but it’s literally impossible!”

He looses all the cool and the calm that he had during the entire video. He can’t do it anymore. He fought against them the whole time to be heard and understood, but when he is proven correct, at the very last moment, they stop listening definitely.

And then Logan definitely shuts him up, and that’s it.

“I’m sure that Thomas’ friends would love to know that he is forcing himself to attend their wedding. It’s clear that you all don’t want to listen to reason.” (Deceit, 37:43, before sinking out.)

5) They never asked him his purposes. Sorry if at this point of the post I’m too tired to look it up, but he asked Logan and Roman if their sole purposes were to be Logic and Creativity, and both said no.

Maybe, if they had asked Deceit the same thing, he would’ve been able to be understood better.

6) When popping up, he keeps changing himself into someone Thomas will listen to (first Patton, now Logan) in hope to be listened to.

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So, I don’t know.

I loved the episode! There were many funny moments and I love every second when Deceit was on screen, but honestly?

If he doesn’t get reedemed, it might not be his fault. If he wants to be part of the conversation and they cut him off, it’s theirs and Thomas’ lost.

Deceit is trying his best.

Dad guy: guess who came to visit!

Patton: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Dad character and Patton: *squealing while hugging each other and jumping around in circles*

Teacher character: *poking Logan’s cheek over and over* say that you missed me. say that you missed me.say that you missed me.say that you missed me.say that you missed me.say that you missed me–

Logan: >:[

Prince character: why hello there, handsome?

Roman: hello yourself, handsome.

Prince character: you ready?

Roman: always

Prince character: let’s do this

Roman: *runs towards the Prince character*

Prince character: *catches Roman effortlessly, lifts him in the air and spins him around*

Roman: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

all im gonna say is that im really happy for dee and patton but at the same time ROMAN LOGAN NO MY BABIES DONT BE SAD

also i know we’re all talking about that one logan line but can we also talk about this one

like

roman

my boy

D: